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    #31
    Your kidding right

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    You are correct, but participation is about the only thing we can objectively measure. It is a back and forth about who are the top athletes, and what qualifies them as such...
    You need to watch the NFL and NBA. For superior in everyway. Size, strength, speed. Give me a break.

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      #32
      Goal size needs to change also

      In the areas with 7v7 or 9v9 do they have full sized goals? Previously the USYS recommended goal size for U10 was 16'X7' which gave the goalies a chance and made the shooters more accurate.

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        #33
        Article in Juicebox Weekly

        Ok small sided games is better as it promotes more touches, faster play - that makes sense. But, additionally, can we please use a nerf medicine ball and play in a bounce house too? I think the turf is far too hard on my kids little knees. I recently read in Juicebox Weekly that if we make sports easier on the kids, they will love us more later in life...so that's a beni, right? MMMMMM, sugary sweet juicebox. Yummy in my tummy.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          In the areas with 7v7 or 9v9 do they have full sized goals? Previously the USYS recommended goal size for U10 was 16'X7' which gave the goalies a chance and made the shooters more accurate.
          6yds x 6' would be standard for 9v9. Many clubs have these goals already but only use them for practices.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            This just goes to show how GW, Eastside and Westside are just manipulating soccer. It's not for the good of the game but for the good of these clubs and individuals!
            My direct experience is only with Westside - but always struck me as a well-run club (thought Pat Duffy and Doyle did a good job back in the day) and think having a well-functioning club is serving the game in its own way.

            There were also a very good partners on some stuff we did a few years ago. JB has a very good reputation among his former players in my experience, and Cony is one of the guys I called as to how to introduce the sport in a positive way to my young ones.

            However, can really like a club and not necessarily follow the direction they are going on leagues.

            Oh well, guess we will know where teams ended up in another week or so.

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              #36
              Won't really know until next Fall. High school will prob be split this 1st year and Spring is always weird. Dust will finally be/start settling by next Fall.

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                #37
                Tryouts are now happening for the incoming U11's and this is a pretty major change in terms of how teams will be formed, provided the leagues follow through and play small sided at U11 and U12.

                Does anyone have any current info on how clubs are going to manage this? Anyone have insight on if their club is going to do pool play, or have two equal teams, or try to do an A,B,C model still?

                It just seems tome that if clubs are going to try to keep enough players to make money and be able to field a good squad at 11 v 11 down the road, the usual model of bloated A team rosters probably isn't going to work.

                Also, what is happening at U12, will they actually be moving to small sided, or will the changes only apply to the incoming U11 class and moving forward?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Tryouts are now happening for the incoming U11's and this is a pretty major change in terms of how teams will be formed, provided the leagues follow through and play small sided at U11 and U12.

                  Does anyone have any current info on how clubs are going to manage this? Anyone have insight on if their club is going to do pool play, or have two equal teams, or try to do an A,B,C model still?

                  It just seems tome that if clubs are going to try to keep enough players to make money and be able to field a good squad at 11 v 11 down the road, the usual model of bloated A team rosters probably isn't going to work.

                  Also, what is happening at U12, will they actually be moving to small sided, or will the changes only apply to the incoming U11 class and moving forward?
                  last years U11's that are going to be U12 this coming year will play 11v11 (because they played it so much last year)
                  this years u11's will be 9v9 and will be 9v9 at u12 also. OYSA is just following the model in the rest of the world. More touches....trouble is they need to get the correct size goals out there also.

                  at the U10 Academy at my DD's club they play 7v7 and create their own league and create all teams equal.
                  At U11 they create A, B, C teams and I heard they were able to create 5 teams at this age group.
                  Our club requires all teams within an age group to squad train once every two weeks. Our coach has it figured once per week.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    last years U11's that are going to be U12 this coming year will play 11v11 (because they played it so much last year)
                    this years u11's will be 9v9 and will be 9v9 at u12 also. OYSA is just following the model in the rest of the world. More touches....trouble is they need to get the correct size goals out there also.

                    at the U10 Academy at my DD's club they play 7v7 and create their own league and create all teams equal.
                    At U11 they create A, B, C teams and I heard they were able to create 5 teams at this age group.
                    Our club requires all teams within an age group to squad train once every two weeks. Our coach has it figured once per week.
                    Thanks for the info, I understand and am all for playing small sided. I am just concerned about the logistics screwing up a good thing.

                    Do you have any idea what the roster sizes are going to look like at your club for 9 v 9 if they are splitting into distinct A, B, C groups and are the coaches saying their will be actually fluidity between the squads, or will it be rigid teams?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I am one of these "non-soccer savvy" parents. I am curious how this is going to affect kids who are u11/u12 if this is going to take several years to see the results of. Are there going to be years where this doesn't benefit the kids that are in the transition or will it be beneficial right from the very start.
                      There are two terms of impact. Long-term is when you will see the noticeable change in development across the board, and for U11's I bet you will see this by u17 or so. The change you will see immediately is the game will become much faster, and in my experience more fun for the players, because they aren't lost on such a large field.

                      My experience was that when kids first moved to 11v11 you had a lot of screwed up field spacing, they would almost tend toward a mob ball model, because they simply couldn't pass the ball that far.

                      A smaller pitch should allow teams to hold their shape and allow everyone on the field to feel involved.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Thanks for the info, I understand and am all for playing small sided. I am just concerned about the logistics screwing up a good thing.

                        Do you have any idea what the roster sizes are going to look like at your club for 9 v 9 if they are splitting into distinct A, B, C groups and are the coaches saying their will be actually fluidity between the squads, or will it be rigid teams?
                        Our club does a training pool, with squad assignments. For the 9v9s we had 22 kids come out so they created two squads. Perhaps the biggest challenge was keepers. We had one strong keeper and will develop another, but that was a question.

                        They practice as a single group with the coaches all at training so they can separate kids into groups by position, or playing style, or whatever.

                        Practice drills are typically 5v5 or 6v6, but the kids seem to love it.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Our club does a training pool, with squad assignments. For the 9v9s we had 22 kids come out so they created two squads. Perhaps the biggest challenge was keepers. We had one strong keeper and will develop another, but that was a question.

                          They practice as a single group with the coaches all at training so they can separate kids into groups by position, or playing style, or whatever.

                          Practice drills are typically 5v5 or 6v6, but the kids seem to love it.
                          Cool. It would seem that moving to small sided would force all the teams to adopt, or continue this academy type model where all the kids are training together, regardless of the A,B,C team designations. I don't really see how it could be set up otherwise.

                          That alone could be the biggest benefit of switching to small sided at these ages, it could do away with the team oriented model from the stone ages, I can hope anyway.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Our club does a training pool, with squad assignments. For the 9v9s we had 22 kids come out so they created two squads. Perhaps the biggest challenge was keepers. We had one strong keeper and will develop another, but that was a question.

                            They practice as a single group with the coaches all at training so they can separate kids into groups by position, or playing style, or whatever.

                            Practice drills are typically 5v5 or 6v6, but the kids seem to love it.
                            What club? Is it the Make-believe pretend soccer fc?

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              What club? Is it the Make-believe pretend soccer fc?
                              The MBPS FC is the place to be. Where have you been?

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                The MBPS FC is the place to be. Where have you been?
                                Im old school I guess, I am stuck in the past choosing lesser known clubs like westside, eastside or fc or thusc. Go MBPS FC!

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