Which OPL clubs are in danger of folding?

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And don't forget about the all important boys side of things. TA teams & those supporting OYSA clearly have the edge on the boys' side across age groups. This is precisely why the remaining OPL clubs will fade unless they join OYSA.

[Unregistered]

Here is my take on all of this.

The OPL has done nothing to promote the game outside their lil service area (and Im giving them very lil credit for NWCL). They have done nothing to foster the game at the grass roots level, nor provide anything ever for the top level player.

OYSA/Timbers does everything that could be expected of a full service organization. They run/manage leagues, they host nation rec tourneys, they provide coach training and licensing, they offer elite level of play thru ODP/DA, they provide club registrar training and support, they are the states gateway to FWRL and USYSA National Championship, Top Soccer, Referee training (they host the trainings) & Field development.

If a clubs costs are the same and both organizations were operated in an un-biased manner, what does the OPL bring to the table that you cant get at OYSA ??

[Slow Xavi]

Here is my take on all of this.

The OPL has done nothing to promote the game outside their lil service area (and Im giving them very lil credit for NWCL). They have done nothing to foster the game at the grass roots level, nor provide anything ever for the top level player.

OYSA/Timbers does everything that could be expected of a full service organization. They run/manage leagues, they host nation rec tourneys, they provide coach training and licensing, they offer elite level of play thru ODP/DA, they provide club registrar training and support, they are the states gateway to FWRL and USYSA National Championship, Top Soccer, Referee training (they host the trainings) & Field development.

If a clubs costs are the same and both organizations were operated in an un-biased manner, what does the OPL bring to the table that you cant get at OYSA ??

If you are compensated by the Timbers, OYSA, or a TA club you should disclose it.

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If you are compensated by the Timbers, OYSA, or a TA club you should disclose it.

Wish I was...then I could work even less. Where do you work ?

[Slow Xavi]

Wish I was...then I could work even less. Where do you work ?

I have received no compensation from the Timbers, either of the leagues, or clubs involved (I have in the past collaborated with a TA club and adidas); that and the fact that I am concerned parent is what is relevant here.

If you are pumping or disparaging any of the above and are compensated by a competitor, you should consider your disclosure obligations. If you have any questions about that, go ask your company's lawyer.

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I have received no compensation from the Timbers, either of the leagues, or clubs involved (I have in the past collaborated with a TA club and adidas); that and the fact that I am concerned parent is what is relevant here.

If you are pumping or disparaging any of the above and are compensated by a competitor, you should consider your disclosure obligations. If you have any questions about that, go ask your company's lawyer.

Opinions are like A-holes. Everyone has one, and only you like your own smell. I was merely pointing out facts that anyone can observe. Did I say something that wasn't true or misleading in anyway Mr. Jailhouse Lawyer ?

I dont need to seek advice from any council to voice my opinion here. Maybe you should and provide some sort of up front disclosure each and every time you start to type a response here. Then at least we can all see which side of the street your standing on today and which direction your heading.

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That was not the claim

I don't believe that the statement was THUSC had more after a 30 - 40 percent drop. THUSC had more, period.

They said the entire club was bigger and that the recent HS supplemental was bigger than previous years. They did not tell you how many drop offs they had from the U14-U15 ages.

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They said the entire club was bigger and that the recent HS supplemental was bigger than previous years. They did not tell you how many drop offs they had from the U14-U15 ages.

What part of "bigger" don't you get?? I was just pointing out that this very well be a trend and that OYSA may lose some talent to OPL.

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I'm asking every TS OR reader to take this question seriously. This is not silly question it is a question that needs to be asked directly of every club board who does not join OYSA?

How are the clubs with significant boys programs going to be able to attract and maintain their player counts without providing competitive league play?

Can FCP afford to lose 1/2 of their boys to TA clubs? What about OR Crossfire and BSC?

When...yes not if but WHEN they do will what will the club look like and will they be able to afford the quality of coaching that got them to the level that they are NOW?

If your club is going to be 1/3rd smaller can you support the Girls programs with quality coaching?

EVERY OPL Board needs to be asking themselves these questions and their members deserve to know what "the plan" is to deal with these changes.

Bottom line is that the TA defection back to OYSA has done to the OPL what the formation of the OPL did to OYSA 5 years ago.

Every OPL who ignores this REALITY does so at their own peril!

You better hope OPL doesn't fold. If they did your kid will be regulated to the C team if your club has one. All of that OPL talent would be filling up your A & B teams. What will little Johnny do playing on a C team. The big ol Timbers won't even recognize him and he'd never make it to the Pros.

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What part of "bigger" don't you get?? I was just pointing out that this very well be a trend and that OYSA may lose some talent to OPL.

What part of they don't even know who they are going to be playing against don't YOU get. The drop off is going to happen AFTER this league series.

Besides THUSC is not the club that should be worrying about the drain of boys to the OYSA clubs.

[Unregistered]

You are a first class Smart ass

You better hope OPL doesn't fold. If they did your kid will be regulated to the C team if your club has one. All of that OPL talent would be filling up your A & B teams. What will little Johnny do playing on a C team. The big ol Timbers won't even recognize him and he'd never make it to the Pros.

Cute comments don't answer any of the questions that need to be asked and answered.
Your patented assumptions about my player are irrelevant and the fact that you made them reflects your limited cognitive abilities to process complex concepts and project probable outcomes....you are obviously a Fox News Junkie!

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What part of they don't even know who they are going to be playing against don't YOU get. The drop off is going to happen AFTER this league series.

Besides THUSC is not the club that should be worrying about the drain of boys to the OYSA clubs.

Get over it... you saying stupid sh!t on this forum us pure conjecture at best. More like wishful thinking to support your decision to stick with one of these same-old-TA clubs. Nothing new for you but paying a new Timbers tax.

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Being WRONG is your strong suit!

Get over it... you saying stupid sh!t on this forum us pure conjecture at best. More like wishful thinking to support your decision to stick with one of these same-old-TA clubs. Nothing new for you but paying a new Timbers tax.

If being wrong was a money maker you would be a millionaire! I'm an OPL parent who KNOWS that the kids are going to suffer needlessly by maintaining the split and have I serious concerns about the long term health of several OPL clubs unless they can convince the better boys to stay.

Yes it is pure conjecture about the defection of the boys to the OYSA aligned clubs. guilty as charged. However if I had a top level boy I would not stick around and pay the money to play in a substandard boys league.

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If being wrong was a money maker you would be a millionaire! I'm an OPL parent who KNOWS that the kids are going to suffer needlessly by maintaining the split and have I serious concerns about the long term health of several OPL clubs unless they can convince the better boys to stay.

Yes it is pure conjecture about the defection of the boys to the OYSA aligned clubs. guilty as charged. However if I had a top level boy I would not stick around and pay the money to play in a substandard boys league.

That's your opinion coming from a sub-par TA club. The remaining clubs in the OPL are strong as is the competition. This has been proven time and again on this cesspool of a blog.

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Looks like memory is a problem for you too

That's your opinion coming from a sub-par TA club. The remaining clubs in the OPL are strong as is the competition. This has been proven time and again on this cesspool of a blog.

Looking at this falls OPL results we see that 2/3rd's of the top four boys teams in each division U14B and below are going to be in the OYSA. So what the F are you talking about? Scroll up a few pages it's there to read.