Wake up

[Unregistered]

The OPL has no leadership or vision and most importantly no oversight (I'm not implying the OYSA does either).

Here it is, so you can get a clear picture of what has happened to the competitive youth soccer playing experience in Oregon.

Imagine if the Dallas Cowboys, Baltimore Ravens, SF 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots, Atlanta Falcons and Kansas City Chiefs Head coaches took over the running of the entire NFL while at the same time they are tasked with running the day to day management of their individual teams. All the while they get a wink and a nod from their owners and their board of Directors who give them no oversight or direction. Most of all no accountability for their decisions at a league level. This OPL structure has no checks and balances, just the freedom to do what they think is in their best interest at any given moment. For instance schedule manipulation, team placement manipulation, player ID etc...

That's what you have chosen as the youth competitive soccer experience for nearly 5 years.

Really?

When another product (OYSA) wants a piece of this insane action as the (Timbers) consider this business to be a lucrative (revenue producing) one. They come in with the knowledge that the youth soccer masses allow collusion and monopolistic practices without any push back. As they have observed it's OK by these folks if the inmates to run the asylum or in this case the foxes run the hen house.

The OYSA/Timbers newly developed structure is flawed & disingenuous as well, but they know you don't care & more importantly they know you have no say in the matter.

Or at least that's what you have demonstrated to date.

Right?

[Unregistered]

Zzzzzzz

Huh ???

And your point is what ?

[Unregistered]

Thanks for posting! I hope you feel better now.

[Unregistered]

It's just the sad reality of the state of things.
Thanks, really needed to read about it here?

[Unregistered]

The OYSA board is not made up of DOC's

The OPL has no leadership or vision and most importantly no oversight (I'm not implying the OYSA does either).

Here it is, so you can get a clear picture of what has happened to the competitive youth soccer playing experience in Oregon.

Imagine if the Dallas Cowboys, Baltimore Ravens, SF 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, New England Patriots, Atlanta Falcons and Kansas City Chiefs Head coaches took over the running of the entire NFL while at the same time they are tasked with running the day to day management of their individual teams. All the while they get a wink and a nod from their owners and their board of Directors who give them no oversight or direction. Most of all no accountability for their decisions at a league level. This OPL structure has no checks and balances, just the freedom to do what they think is in their best interest at any given moment. For instance schedule manipulation, team placement manipulation, player ID etc...

That's what you have chosen as the youth competitive soccer experience for nearly 5 years.

Really?

When another product (OYSA) wants a piece of this insane action as the (Timbers) consider this business to be a lucrative (revenue producing) one. They come in with the knowledge that the youth soccer masses allow collusion and monopolistic practices without any push back. As they have observed it's OK by these folks if the inmates to run the asylum or in this case the foxes run the hen house.

The OYSA/Timbers newly developed structure is flawed & disingenuous as well, but they know you don't care & more importantly they know you have no say in the matter.

Or at least that's what you have demonstrated to date.

Right?

Spot on in your analysis of the OPC.

However you are being too cynical about the workings of OYSA. The Board is elected by the member clubs and are not DOC's. The Board has made agreements with the Timbers to run the competitive side of Oregon youth soccer but these are not long term deals and can and will be modified for the best interests of soccer at all levels in the state as MANDATED in the Bylaws.

What the TA haters need to realize is that unlike the OPC the Timbers have to actually answer to a group of unrelated and unconflicted adults who care about ALL levels of soccer in the State.

This time next year we will be discussing what actually happened to each organization but the conclusion will still be the SAME. Oregon is too small to split the clubs between two organizations.

[Unregistered]

So right

The OYSA volunteer board has GW and the Timbers just where the want them.

Right under their thumb.....

ROTFL :)

[Unregistered]

Sound like Tom Peterson

Very interesting. Wake Up Wake up like for the old late night TV.

OYSA/Timbers vs OPL. Yes it is a mess. Very few remember the history around this.

Let folks make a choice and let the game fall where it may. My vote is for OYSA/Timbers.

[Unregistered]

Oysa

The architects of the new OYSA are half of the architects of the OPL just bring the Timbers in to the mix.

Two points of advice.

1. Timbers Run Away !!!!!!!!
2. Ask to vote on your club and league board positions.

[Unregistered]

The architects of the new OYSA are half of the architects of the OPL just bring the Timbers in to the mix.

Two points of advice.

1. Timbers Run Away !!!!!!!!
2. Ask to vote on your club and league board positions.

It only took 2 OYSA meetings for them to wise up and only have Mike Smith give "verbal" updates to the board. That way nothing is recorded in the minutes. Nice transparency, OYSA and Timbers...

[Unregistered]

Yawn...... burp........snort.......fart

[Unregistered]

From the bastion of transparency...

It only took 2 OYSA meetings for them to wise up and only have Mike Smith give "verbal" updates to the board. That way nothing is recorded in the minutes. Nice transparency, OYSA and Timbers...

OPL are clearly the folks to lecture OYSA about transparency...part of transparency is your constituents allowing the process to make decisions...Right now it seems so many people are just hanging on the edge of any news that it seriously addles good decision making.

[Unregistered]

IM A WAKE !! IM A WAKE !!

What did I miss ? Did someone insult me while I was sleeping ??

[Unregistered]

OPL are clearly the folks to lecture OYSA about transparency...part of transparency is your constituents allowing the process to make decisions...Right now it seems so many people are just hanging on the edge of any news that it seriously addles good decision making.

OPC never intended to be transparent. But if you promise transparency, you need to provided it. OYSA is already becoming opaque and will become darker and darker the more they are in bed with the Timbers...

[Unregistered]

OPC never intended to be transparent. But if you promise transparency, you need to provided it. OYSA is already becoming opaque and will become darker and darker the more they are in bed with the Timbers...

So where are you coming from...You are saying it is alright OPL wasn't transparent because they never said they would be...It seems like all organizations should be transparent, in that case OPL would be a 0 on a scale of 0-10, and OYSA might be a 7 drifting towards a 5...They are still far better than OPL!

[Unregistered]

OPC never intended to be transparent. But if you promise transparency, you need to provided it. OYSA is already becoming opaque and will become darker and darker the more they are in bed with the Timbers...

\

What ever you want to know about OYSA that you think or feel is less then clear, pick up the phone and call the office or write to the president. I know in the past, Matt has responded to me with complete clarity. If your with a club that is NOT a member of OYSA, your probably out of luck.