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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostUnfortunately your plea fails to recognize that this is a top to down failure. They are reaping all the BS they have sown for the last two years or so. The DoC's, as well as a handful of toxic parents have done a stand up job of creating the conditions that is chasing away the local talent. This exodus isn't new. But hey, someday all your Rec teams will enjoy your turf fields... Someday.
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3200....and falling
Originally posted by Unregistered View Postduh....when you have 75 teams there will be problems....I promise with 4000 players in Washington Timbers that 400 have an issues. Same goes for your 1500 player club....150 have issues...it's all relative
Certain "familiar" DoCs hiring friends as coaches, because they aren't any good at developing a real, professional coaching staff. Hiring the mercenary coach for the u15 reds is a real stretch and should be a red flag that things are going very, very poorly there.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostWhat's up in Vancouver these days?
Top players from G02 Reds team that won OPL fall and were NWCL finalists had SIX players return? Top 3 moved across the river?
More top players from G01 Reds team moving across the river, decimating this team.
G00 Reds lose their coaches to Salmon Creek at the last minute and a bunch of players are going with them.
G99 Reds imploding due to displeasure with assigned coach and as best players get ready to move to ECNL this summer.
BU16 Reds getting VG as a coach!
See the common theme? Incompetent DoCs hiring bad coaches drives people away. Eli, you need to fix this!!!
G03 best players are at Pacific FC.
G00 Green (B) is now th A team. Almost entire G00 Reds left the club for FCSC, FCP, ET. And their Forest (C) team left also, promoting their D team up to be the new B team.
G99 Reds have already lost 1 starter to FCP ECNL. Several more to go at U15 ECNL tryouts this summer.
G98 Reds have never been competitive at the top level. All of the best players in Clark county are at FCSC.
G96 Reds imploded last summer and it's too late for that age group to recover.
Basically, on the girls side, WT_FC now has the second best "A" teams in Clark county from G98 through G03. Keep up the good work!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe above is an understatement of how bad things have become on the girls side at WT_FC.
G03 best players are at Pacific FC.
G00 Green (B) is now th A team. Almost entire G00 Reds left the club for FCSC, FCP, ET. And their Forest (C) team left also, promoting their D team up to be the new B team.
G99 Reds have already lost 1 starter to FCP ECNL. Several more to go at U15 ECNL tryouts this summer.
G98 Reds have never been competitive at the top level. All of the best players in Clark county are at FCSC.
G96 Reds imploded last summer and it's too late for that age group to recover.
Basically, on the girls side, WT_FC now has the second best "A" teams in Clark county from G98 through G03. Keep up the good work!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe amount of incorrect statements and flat out lies in the above is quite impressive. It really speaks volumes to your jealousness of this club that you'd spend so much time "studying" them.
And it takes no time to "study" WT_FC. All of their problems are well known around the area. Ask any honest parent.
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Supposedly, WT-FC is going to make the G99 Reds into a "Tier 1" team this year with a new, higher price tag. Why pay almost the same as ECNL to be coached bootball by "Studs", play in OYSA and go to a couple of lower-end showcase tournaments? The smart money is on half a dozen of these girls moving to ECNL this summer.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSupposedly, WT-FC is going to make the G99 Reds into a "Tier 1" team this year with a new, higher price tag. Why pay almost the same as ECNL to be coached bootball by "Studs", play in OYSA and go to a couple of lower-end showcase tournaments? The smart money is on half a dozen of these girls moving to ECNL this summer.
The tier 1 aspect is really only 3 practices a week and the extra $ is just the upcharge for all turf training and games. The extra cost is just built into the club fees rather then ad hoc. In reality doing it this way will save the parents money compared to the ad hoc system that other Wa Timbers deal with.
Where would you suggest they play? OYSA and OPL are virtually the same. They have the same league options as all non-ECNL teams. Same goes for Showcase tournaments - same options as all OYSA-OPL teams. Actually the G99 Reds have an option that no other teams have down here. They can play in the RCL if they choose. Not sure if they are going to exercise that option or not?
As far as ECNL goes it doesn't appear that the G99 Reds are any different then any other non-ECNL team in that the players / parents look like they're just letting the dust settle to what appears as utter chaos in the Portland ECNL world.
A little advice, since you're so unhappy, just take your DD to one of the Portland ECNL teams since you seem to be convinced it's so much better. We will all be happier.
Best wishes for you and your DD - life's too short to get all frothy over this.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSupposedly, WT-FC is going to make the G99 Reds into a "Tier 1" team this year with a new, higher price tag. Why pay almost the same as ECNL to be coached bootball by "Studs", play in OYSA and go to a couple of lower-end showcase tournaments? The smart money is on half a dozen of these girls moving to ECNL this summer.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSupposedly, WT-FC is going to make the G99 Reds into a "Tier 1" team this year with a new, higher price tag. Why pay almost the same as ECNL to be coached bootball by "Studs", play in OYSA and go to a couple of lower-end showcase tournaments? The smart money is on half a dozen of these girls moving to ECNL this summer.
You shouldn't bring up smarts and money in the same sentence. I'm guessing you have neither.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostSupposedly, WT-FC is going to make the G99 Reds into a "Tier 1" team this year with a new, higher price tag. Why pay almost the same as ECNL to be coached bootball by "Studs", play in OYSA and go to a couple of lower-end showcase tournaments? The smart money is on half a dozen of these girls moving to ECNL this summer.
Sooo..... new team, new coach, new higher price tag and the privilege of playing OYSA vs ECNL.
What a deal!
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostDirect from the registrar......3200 players.
Certain "familiar" DoCs hiring friends as coaches, because they aren't any good at developing a real, professional coaching staff. Hiring the mercenary coach for the u15 reds is a real stretch and should be a red flag that things are going very, very poorly there.
U15B got rid of a coach that just won state cup!! They replaced him with the most hated ex-coach/ex-DOC in the county. ***?
U15G were bleeding girls so they brought in Studley. Why were the girls leaving? Does this mean FCSC seriously is going to come back from the dead? Come on, man!
With TWO DOCs and a GM, WaTimbers are still misfiring.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFirst you obviously have an issue with "Studs". He is a great coach and does not coach bootball as you claim. Your comment leads me to believe you know very little about soccer and just have a bone to pick.
The tier 1 aspect is really only 3 practices a week and the extra $ is just the upcharge for all turf training and games. The extra cost is just built into the club fees rather then ad hoc. In reality doing it this way will save the parents money compared to the ad hoc system that other Wa Timbers deal with.
Where would you suggest they play? OYSA and OPL are virtually the same. They have the same league options as all non-ECNL teams. Same goes for Showcase tournaments - same options as all OYSA-OPL teams. Actually the G99 Reds have an option that no other teams have down here. They can play in the RCL if they choose. Not sure if they are going to exercise that option or not?
As far as ECNL goes it doesn't appear that the G99 Reds are any different then any other non-ECNL team in that the players / parents look like they're just letting the dust settle to what appears as utter chaos in the Portland ECNL world.
A little advice, since you're so unhappy, just take your DD to one of the Portland ECNL teams since you seem to be convinced it's so much better. We will all be happier.
Best wishes for you and your DD - life's too short to get all frothy over this.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostFirst you obviously have an issue with "Studs". He is a great coach and does not coach bootball as you claim. Your comment leads me to believe you know very little about soccer and just have a bone to pick.
The tier 1 aspect is really only 3 practices a week and the extra $ is just the upcharge for all turf training and games. The extra cost is just built into the club fees rather then ad hoc. In reality doing it this way will save the parents money compared to the ad hoc system that other Wa Timbers deal with.
Where would you suggest they play? OYSA and OPL are virtually the same. They have the same league options as all non-ECNL teams. Same goes for Showcase tournaments - same options as all OYSA-OPL teams. Actually the G99 Reds have an option that no other teams have down here. They can play in the RCL if they choose. Not sure if they are going to exercise that option or not?
As far as ECNL goes it doesn't appear that the G99 Reds are any different then any other non-ECNL team in that the players / parents look like they're just letting the dust settle to what appears as utter chaos in the Portland ECNL world.
A little advice, since you're so unhappy, just take your DD to one of the Portland ECNL teams since you seem to be convinced it's so much better. We will all be happier.
Best wishes for you and your DD - life's too short to get all frothy over this.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostHow many top players from this team are returning? I'm hearing multiple players are gone.
Sooo..... new team, new coach, new higher price tag and the privilege of playing OYSA vs ECNL.
What a deal!
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