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    ECNL is where its at!!

    I know a few people in Oregon who are discovery players for ECNL teams in Washington! There are sooo many college scouts at the games and girls are getting recruited by big schools and scouted by national team coaches! ECNL is where its at!

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    let us know how that DOESNT work out for your kid

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      I know a few people in Oregon who are discovery players for ECNL teams in Washington! There are sooo many college scouts at the games and girls are getting recruited by big schools and scouted by national team coaches! ECNL is where its at!
      The somber FACT is that 96.6% of girls playing soccer in clubs will get zero dollars to play in college. Less than 1% of the graduating boys and around 2% of the girls received soccer scholarships. I wish there were an ECNL club in OR, but there isn't and if you are hauling your child up North then you are wasting your time because you have better odds at winning in Vegas. Maybe waste is a harsh adjective, but your ROI is not very good

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        #4
        % of ECNL players getting $ for college?

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        The somber FACT is that 96.6% of girls playing soccer in clubs will get zero dollars to play in college. Less than 1% of the graduating boys and around 2% of the girls received soccer scholarships. I wish there were an ECNL club in OR, but there isn't and if you are hauling your child up North then you are wasting your time because you have better odds at winning in Vegas. Maybe waste is a harsh adjective, but your ROI is not very good
        In all fairness, your %'s applying to the general population have nothing, or very little, to do with this discussion. I would be curious to know the % of ECNL players getting scholarship $, I am sure it is a hell of a lot higher than 2%...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          In all fairness, your %'s applying to the general population have nothing, or very little, to do with this discussion. I would be curious to know the % of ECNL players getting scholarship $, I am sure it is a hell of a lot higher than 2%...
          These aren't my stats, but the stats from the head coach Ohio Weslyan

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            In all fairness, your %'s applying to the general population have nothing, or very little, to do with this discussion. I would be curious to know the % of ECNL players getting scholarship $, I am sure it is a hell of a lot higher than 2%...
            Not all ECNL players are good enough to play D1. Not all ECNL teams are good either (thats why they have more then one division). Just labeling yourself with ECNL doesnt make you a D1 candidate or guaranteed a scholarship anywhere.

            ECNL makes up such a small percentage of competitive soccer players nationwide, Im sure if you were to determine the actual number, Its probably no more then 5% that actually go to a D1 and even way less of those actually get any financial help. With maybe a handfull of truly committed schools that compete every year for the national title, the rest of the NCAA vies for their league trophy. Thus, they also look for instate students that will cost them much less.

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              #7
              Somewhat correct ...

              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Not all ECNL players are good enough to play D1. Not all ECNL teams are good either (thats why they have more then one division). Just labeling yourself with ECNL doesnt make you a D1 candidate or guaranteed a scholarship anywhere.

              ECNL makes up such a small percentage of competitive soccer players nationwide, Im sure if you were to determine the actual number, Its probably no more then 5% that actually go to a D1 and even way less of those actually get any financial help. With maybe a handfull of truly committed schools that compete every year for the national title, the rest of the NCAA vies for their league trophy. Thus, they also look for instate students that will cost them much less.
              In state students may pay less tuition than out of state, but that rarely affects soccer scholarships. Scholarships are usually based on a percent of the entire cost of attendance, not just tuition. Some poorly funded colleges may partially recruit based on in-state.

              The top 100 colleges in rankings all try extremely hard to have quality programs. The middle third does also. They show this by the money spent on the programs and the athletic scholarships granted. I have no idea where you picked up the "handful" concept, it's simply not correct.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                In state students may pay less tuition than out of state, but that rarely affects soccer scholarships. Scholarships are usually based on a percent of the entire cost of attendance, not just tuition. Some poorly funded colleges may partially recruit based on in-state.

                The top 100 colleges in rankings all try extremely hard to have quality programs. The middle third does also. They show this by the money spent on the programs and the athletic scholarships granted. I have no idea where you picked up the "handful" concept, it's simply not correct.
                If your player does not mind the commute time, wants to compete against the best, and potentially play in a top D1 school then ECNL may be a good option. It is a personal choice. You are not stupid if you do it or stupid if you don't although some people have some definite strong opinion. There are some huge sacrifices required and may be worth it for some.

                I do think it is silly to argue that you should play ENCL so that you can get scholarship money. If you need college money think about the money that you save by not doing ECNL and the money that you can make (or potential academic scholarship) by working a part time job (or studying). Save your money and go to the school that you want to go to rather than the schools who may or may not give you money for soccer.

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                  #9
                  OMG I think I have read through 30 threads with the exact same content... ECNL good. No ECNL bad. No ECNL good. No ECNL bad.

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                      #11
                      Cut from Florida Thread, someone already did their homework on this topic:

                      With all the discussion with regard to ECNL and Non-ECNL path to college I thought it might be interesting to post the actual numbers. Let the discussion begin

                      There are 1,903 College commitments

                      ECNL makes up 1,216 of 1,903 total commitments or (64%)

                      Non-ECNL makes up 687 of 1,903 total commitments or (36%)

                      There are 73 ECNL teams 18 x 73= 1,314 Total ECNL players
                      92.5% of ECNL players have committed to playing soccer in college

                      Just a brief look at the ACC a staggering 98/134 players come from ECNL teams (73%)

                      UNC 17 ECNL 4 non
                      Duke 14 ECNL 2 non
                      Miami 9 ECNL 3 non
                      Maryland 9 ECNL 1 non
                      Boston College 11 ECNL 0 non
                      Clemson 6 ECNL 7 non
                      Florida St 8 ECNL 1 non
                      NC State 0 ECNL 4 non
                      Virginia 8 ECNL 2 non
                      Va Tech 6 ECNL 4 non
                      Wake 10 ECNL 8 non

                      http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/searc...ea=commitments

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                        #12
                        Interesting

                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Cut from Florida Thread, someone already did their homework on this topic:

                        With all the discussion with regard to ECNL and Non-ECNL path to college I thought it might be interesting to post the actual numbers. Let the discussion begin

                        There are 1,903 College commitments

                        ECNL makes up 1,216 of 1,903 total commitments or (64%)

                        Non-ECNL makes up 687 of 1,903 total commitments or (36%)

                        There are 73 ECNL teams 18 x 73= 1,314 Total ECNL players
                        92.5% of ECNL players have committed to playing soccer in college

                        Just a brief look at the ACC a staggering 98/134 players come from ECNL teams (73%)

                        UNC 17 ECNL 4 non
                        Duke 14 ECNL 2 non
                        Miami 9 ECNL 3 non
                        Maryland 9 ECNL 1 non
                        Boston College 11 ECNL 0 non
                        Clemson 6 ECNL 7 non
                        Florida St 8 ECNL 1 non
                        NC State 0 ECNL 4 non
                        Virginia 8 ECNL 2 non
                        Va Tech 6 ECNL 4 non
                        Wake 10 ECNL 8 non

                        http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/searc...ea=commitments
                        Very interesting but we live on the West coast. Do the same analysis for the PAC-12. Fewer ECNL teams and fewer percentage of players. I'll look at the actual numbers later.

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                          #13
                          Pdx

                          We do not have ECNL. Driving from PDX to Seattle for my family is not an option. Until we have ECNL locally we are wasting time debating its relevance. Time would be better spent debating the logical and best choice's we have locally for our daughters.

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                            #14
                            I think a lot of the coaches do like to go to the ECNL tournaments. If they have several players asking to be seen it makes a lot of sense to go one place and see several players perhaps even on the same team or playing against each other.

                            But unfortunately with ECNL not being a current option in Oregon then the players who are looking to play college ball need to be much more proactive. The tournaments we went to did not have nearly the number of coaches we hear are at the ECNL events but several D1 coaches (ones that my daughter asked to come to her game) did see her over the course of the last two years and she ended up with offers and fortunately will be playing at her number 1 choice.

                            It did take a lot of calls and a lot of emails and of course ID camps. But it all worked out in the end. If your player has skills, is being coached properly and is playing competitive games and tournaments then it is still possible to play at a high level in college.

                            I suspect someday Portland will have an ECNL team. But there still will be high level players who may not be able to afford this as an option or who develop as a key player later than other players and don't make an ECNL team early on. I still hope that there are still college coaches that take the time to look for that one off player.

                            One of the coaches we spoke to in the mid west said that there may be 8000 + players that he is contacted by and they are choosing perhaps 6 - 8 of them. Sometimes it doesn't go quite as expected. Another coach says he likes to take his time and watch the player in as many games possible before making his decision.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              We do not have ECNL. Driving from PDX to Seattle for my family is not an option. Until we have ECNL locally we are wasting time debating its relevance. Time would be better spent debating the logical and best choice's we have locally for our daughters.
                              Don't hate on ECNL just because ur kid would not be able to make a team! I mean, if yall think ur kid is going to get scouted by colleges in one of the worst soccer states, ur wrong!

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