G99 NPL Fall 2013-2014

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The team is in last place with a total of 1 point.

Adding 2 or 3 players may help prevent relegation, but would not make this team a Champion's League team.

The idea of parent's seething at the idea is really ridiculous. To say that these 2 or 3 kids are going to make or break for this team is crazy. It is just another excuse that goes along with losing because you are missing players due to injury. Bottom line is that you need to win games with the players that you have available.

However, winning a match or two could do wonders for the psyche, maybe help change some attitudes during practice and thus matches. But the coaches should be working on that now. A quick look at the OPL site, they appear to have gone from wining league at U11, to 6th or so at U12 and now they are bottom dwellers. Something is going wrong there.
I could see some of the more ambitious girls, with talent, looking for greener pastures if they are serious about soccer.

Tom A.

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I don't know what goes on at FC, but I say good for FC and the U13 team that if aren't taking girls who practice and play with the U14s and putting them on the U13 roster to try and get extra wins.

Someone is going to get deregulated down. Is it fair for FCPtd to take players on another team to try and help the U13s not get deregulated and instead it happens to another team? And what about the U13 girls who have practiced together all year, can they feel good that the club feels like they need to bring in girls to get wins? And if they manage to avoid deregulation is next years real U14 team playing in an appropriate division?

All this is really crazy to me. Winning vs development . . . I was hoping for my daughter to get a competitive team experience but I thought the emphasis would be on team experience. I am learning through experience with club soccer and this board how much winning and politics are the emphasis and team experience is not.

Playing bad soccer..... as a team.

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I have a daughter at FC and my understanding is that the club will try to put each player in the right spot for that player. The primary focus is to develop the best players. Developing the best teams is secondary. Important, and certainly nice to have when the stars align properly, but secondary.

In this particular case, the younger age group would almost certainly get better results if the play-ups rejoined the U13 team. However, it's not clear that that would be best for the development of any of the players; either the players that can handle U14 and are developing there or the players that would have lessing playing time on the U13 team (not to mention the girls that would then get bumped to the U13 B team).

Knowing the girls DoC, I'm pretty sure that the current situation has been thoroughly thought through and has not been done on a whim.

The girls doc has about as much understanding of development as the parents who run the team. Don't think for a second coaches daughter and friends taking time from good players and families has jack Squat to do with development. Well at least not actual players on the team. "Come join a winning team" via the website and coaches.

That is what you attempt to get regardless of the cost. Trust me. We know.

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Why shouldn't a kid play on age, with her friends and classmates, on a strong team, and be able to guest play up from time to time? Sounds like a good developmental plan for her. I don't believe you are truly worried about the kids who play a few less minutes while she is on the field. You just have a grudge against this club. How is it really any different than a team that rosters 18 and has 7 kids coming off the bench. It is called competition. It's not always fair, such is life. Kids have to work hard to improve and fight for playing time.

That does not sound like the best development plan. Is this about development or playing with friends and classmates. Because general consensus is if you get playing time, you should be facing the toughest competition possible.

If she wants to play with friends and classmates, great. But it sounds like she want both playing with friends and playing against tougher competition. Most girls want that, most girls have to make a choice.

Personally, I don't care what is going on with FCSC. I've said before if the parents and kids are OK with it, who cares. But keep saying it is for development and I will continue to question that philosophy . . . because it makes little sense. It may give a little extra development to this one particular player by "playing up from time to time" . . . but playing on the U14 team two times in one weekend to have her develop, come on.

If this isn't an FCSC thing and other clubs are doing the same thing, I will feel the same way. I am only talking about FCSC because that is the team that came up here. And again this is allowed by OPL, so I don't think FCSC is doing anything wrong or immoral. I'm just not buying this club (or other clubs) justification they are doing it for development.

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We are all still complaining about a 12 y.o. beating up on u14 teams huh?

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We are all still complaining about a 12 y.o. beating up on u14 teams huh?

Sucks for Eugene ahhahahahah

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Sucks for Eugene ahhahahahah

Is this the FCSC coach?

:)

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It is interesting that the U14's are at or near the top of their league with the play ups. Those 'play ups' are very good and should stay up as long as they are competitive. But that begs the question. The U12's are at or near the top of the league as well. Yet, none of them 'play up'. It's like U13's over there are the forgotten child of FCP.

I have seen them (U13)play and they have some talented girls, but their 'not so good' players are just that. Not very good. Horrendous actually. Chains are only as strong as their weakest link.

As far as being regulated. They deserve to be. However, with the OYSA/OPL split will it even matter?

If there was some talent then they would have more then one point.

Typical FC parent making excuses for his dd and blaming the season on the weak link forgetting that his dd is not all that great.

As a TEAM they are at the very bottom.

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Bad Logic

The girls doc has about as much understanding of development as the parents who run the team. Don't think for a second coaches daughter and friends taking time from good players and families has jack Squat to do with development. Well at least not actual players on the team. "Come join a winning team" via the website and coaches.

That is what you attempt to get regardless of the cost. Trust me. We know.

Taking time from "good players"? The FCSC Nemesis has 14 players on roster. They have only recently started to utilize the help of two 00 players over the last couple of weekends. Most of the other 99 teams in this age group roster between 16 to 18 players. I am trying hard to understand how these two are taking time from deserving players. They attend both their own as well as the 99 practices so it is not as if their aren't earning their time. If these girls played on another 99 squads I guess their time would be "stolen" by the other girls on an 18 person roster. Bad logic.

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If there was some talent then they would have more then one point.

Typical FC parent making excuses for his dd and blaming the season on the weak link forgetting that his dd is not all that great.

As a TEAM they are at the very bottom.

Not if they had they play ups play on both the U13 and U14 teams.

But U13 is going to go down or stay up based on their own team players. And that is the way it should be. If this is an age group that isn't particularly strong for FCptd, then move them down a division to play teams that are more to their level. Nothing wrong with playing in the Premier division. Better there than in NPL because of guest players.

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Taking time from "good players"? The FCSC Nemesis has 14 players on roster. They have only recently started to utilize the help of two 00 players over the last couple of weekends. Most of the other 99 teams in this age group roster between 16 to 18 players. I am trying hard to understand how these two are taking time from deserving players. They attend both their own as well as the 99 practices so it is not as if their aren't earning their time. If these girls played on another 99 squads I guess their time would be "stolen" by the other girls on an 18 person roster. Bad logic.

Curious, do those 2 girls play 4 games a weekend?

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Curious, do those 2 girls play 4 games a weekend?

Sometimes back to back games like last weekend. And RTC.

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Sometimes back to back games like last weekend. And RTC.

Thxs for the response.

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Sometimes back to back games like last weekend. And RTC.

And four training sessions....seems reasonable

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Taking time from "good players"? The FCSC Nemesis has 14 players on roster. They have only recently started to utilize the help of two 00 players over the last couple of weekends. Most of the other 99 teams in this age group roster between 16 to 18 players. I am trying hard to understand how these two are taking time from deserving players. They attend both their own as well as the 99 practices so it is not as if their aren't earning their time. If these girls played on another 99 squads I guess their time would be "stolen" by the other girls on an 18 person roster. Bad logic.

Why only 14 players. This is typical FCSC at u14 and above. They run out of players because everyone leaves. A lot of their teams need help from the lower ages.