Anyone know the result of today's playoff game?
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Thorns, 3-2, heading into 2nd 15 minute OT. Go Thorns!!Originally posted by Unregistered View Post -
Thorns win, 3-2! Go Thorns!!Comment
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Hate to say this
Sorry. This hurts. Go SkyBlue. But the final will be better served in Portland than in NY.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
#BOANComment
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This is how low Women's soccer has gone. It's the semi final and no one gives a rats.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Wnba? TrolllolololComment
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Go back to Seattle
Tell that to the 17,600 fans that showed up at the last Thorns home game.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Suck Feattle and go home.Comment
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Women's professional soccer will not survive long term with the attendance that the league has seen, but I will "die" because of TV. Women's soccer (except World Cup) is not watched by the American viewerOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I hope the NWSL is successful. I get that the league was thrown together quickly. I understand that the Thorns draw a lot of fans. I also see that the Thorns are the exception and not the rule. The rest of the league draws less than 5,000 / game and some draw less than 2,000 per game. Salaries are such that many of the top players stay with European teams until the season is 1/2 over.
I'm not sure why, but the game is not - so far - successful. Citing Portland attendance figures doesn't prove a thing.Comment
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Fine, it's in an uphill battle. You don't think everyone of us knows that? Gee, what are you going to tell us next, that it rains a lot in the Pac NW? More worthless information from someone who sees everything as half empty. No one thought men's soccer would survive, and now, on it's third attempt, it is putting down roots and doing fairly well.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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On a positive note the model for break even point for the league is to average only 2500 per home game. I have not seen all the numbers but I'm sure they can meet this number.Comment
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The problem is it's not good soccer. This might be the part that some of you aren't getting.Comment
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Mens game has operated in a very conservative mode till the last few years. If player $ begin to escalate (and the Dempsey signing will cause that) it will put significant cost pressure on the league. Dont forget, many MLS teams dont do all that great at attendance either. I dont believe Red Bulls sell out a 25,000 seat arena in NYC..... and they are going to add another team?Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
MLS will go as far as TV rights deals will take it. Next deal is 2014. Well see.
Great to see 67,000 yesterday, but is the exception.
I am not 100% sure but i am guessing entire Timbers compensation is less than what they are paying Dempsey alone. Very effective for Timbers. Dangerous for Sounders and the league.
As far as Womens pro soccer, enjoy it while you can. Not enough sizzle to get a decent TV deal. Days are numbered most likely.Comment
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The challenge with successful women's pro soccer
Women's professional soccer survives in Western Europe because the professional clubs are operated as clubs and not professional franchises like the US. Usually, each club has youth boys and girls teams and professional men and women teams and it has been that way for quite awhile. Unfortunately, the Timbers currently are the only MLS club to also own a NWSL team. I understand that is changing for this coming year as a few more MLS clubs will buy-in/buyout their city's NWSL team. I suspect that when MLS clubs partner with their women's teams, their attendance will grow.
But besides having the ability to leverage a MLS side's staff and financial resources, the NWSL obviously needs fans to attend the games and watch on TV otherwise their ability to get long term corporate sponsorship will suffer. The most obvious fan base that should be supporting the NWSL is young women and I'm not sure why other cities struggle with this market. For whatever reason it is harder to get young women who obviously love playing the sport interested in watching any soccer games, not to mention watching on TV. Portland is fortunate in that men, women, boys and girls attend the games. But this level of support is seriously lacking in other cities. In order to survive, the NWSL needs to partner with MLS teams as much as possible and also directly approach local youth soccer organizations to actively promote the league. I don't know if the NWSL could find ways to build in season ticket sales with registration but some direct marketing is necessary. With six months before the season kicks off again, hopefully the NWSL will have time to aggressively market the league as its survival is important for the growth of women's soccer in North America.Comment
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Congrats to the Thorns hecka cheers to them. Unfortuneately some redheaded person mugged in their celebration. Stick to the Timbers stay away from youth soccer and the Thorns.Comment
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