High Girl's ranking - 6A

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It's been my experience that those players that prefer high school soccer often are over shadowed by better players at club. If a player needs a crowd to play, then her/his motivation is suspect. High school soccer, in general, has poor coaches, less talented rosters, often woeful opposition, etc. High school soccer is a low level version of the game.

This right here my friends is what is ruining our kids!!! Parents who are unwilling to let their kids play a game (yes, it is still a game) to have fun. "her/his motivation is suspect" when they want to play in front of a crowd! You are an ass! Why question a kids motive when they want to play in front of a crowd....It's clear you never have! It might be a low level version of the game....but why does that matter...it's a GAME....let your child live a childs life and have fun.

Then again, keep it up....the more of your kids that end up coming to see me, helps support my family! It is just so sad how parents can damage the mind/emotions of a child.

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This right here my friends is what is ruining our kids!!! Parents who are unwilling to let their kids play a game (yes, it is still a game) to have fun. "her/his motivation is suspect" when they want to play in front of a crowd! You are an ass! Why question a kids motive when they want to play in front of a crowd....It's clear you never have! It might be a low level version of the game....but why does that matter...it's a GAME....let your child live a childs life and have fun.

Then again, keep it up....the more of your kids that end up coming to see me, helps support my family! It is just so sad how parents can damage the mind/emotions of a child.

Relax! Calm down! I am not the poster above and I do not agree to all his points but please understNd this is a place where everyone has an opinion. Besides, we can say all we want but at this stage in our children's lives they are starting to make their own decisions. Tryntelling a teen ager what to do...don't want to go there...

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I'm actually enjoying HS soccer much more this year. It's always fun to go to games with the kids in the stands, who can really get into the game. The funny thing is, the parents on club really get to know each other. But in HS, I hardly speak with any of the other parents. There are a number of players who I don't have a clue who their parents are.

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It's been my experience that those players that prefer high school soccer often are over shadowed by better players at club. If a player needs a crowd to play, then her/his motivation is suspect. High school soccer, in general, has poor coaches, less talented rosters, often woeful opposition, etc. High school soccer is a low level version of the game.

I posted what you are replying to. My daughters HS team has mostly club players but from all over. I am clearly predjudiced but I'd say my daughter is top 3 on her club team and top 3 on her HS team. They do very well. The HS team actually has some very talented underclass girls that start.

The girls clearly like the fact that at HS games (in the past at least ) they get a good crowd that cheers them on and celebrates goals. That seems pretty normal. It's not a sign of lack of motive. Heck I played HS & small college football and the crazy crowds (thousands) for HS Friday nights were 10x more fun than the small Saturday afternoon crowds. HS was a lot more fun.

I'd assume that quite a few on her HS team will play at the next level, though not all D1.

Just adding a different perspective. The girls still like club, but HS is fun in a lot of other ways.

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I posted what you are replying to. My daughters HS team has mostly club players but from all over. I am clearly predjudiced but I'd say my daughter is top 3 on her club team and top 3 on her HS team. They do very well. The HS team actually has some very talented underclass girls that start.

The girls clearly like the fact that at HS games (in the past at least ) they get a good crowd that cheers them on and celebrates goals. That seems pretty normal. It's not a sign of lack of motive. Heck I played HS & small college football and the crazy crowds (thousands) for HS Friday nights were 10x more fun than the small Saturday afternoon crowds. HS was a lot more fun.

I'd assume that quite a few on her HS team will play at the next level, though not all D1.

Just adding a different perspective. The girls still like club, but HS is fun in a lot of other ways.

This is a great post on a lot of levels. My DD always said that 'Club' was her job and HS was just fun. I agree. The girls really look forward to the time they can play with different players from different clubs and represent their schools. Not unlike how she looked forward to ODP when she was still young enough to play. I can just hear those people rushing to say it was a totally different level of play. Of course it is, but the experience of playing with different players from different clubs is still the same.

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Really?

This right here my friends is what is ruining our kids!!! Parents who are unwilling to let their kids play a game (yes, it is still a game) to have fun. "her/his motivation is suspect" when they want to play in front of a crowd! You are an ass! Why question a kids motive when they want to play in front of a crowd....It's clear you never have! It might be a low level version of the game....but why does that matter...it's a GAME....let your child live a childs life and have fun.

Then again, keep it up....the more of your kids that end up coming to see me, helps support my family! It is just so sad how parents can damage the mind/emotions of a child.

My opinion wherein I don't live my life through my kids is ruining your kid? You are a typical full of BS parent would will still actually be ruining your kids lives after they are married and have children. Motivation to play the game comes from within, not showing how cool you are on the field to the applause of others. I've played for tens of thousands cheering me and my team on, but it wasn't soccer. I played for myself first, follow players second, coach third, school fourth, and friends and relatives last. You, I'll bet, are a defective parent. But, sadly, you may never reach that understanding of yourself.

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My opinion wherein I don't live my life through my kids is ruining your kid? You are a typical full of BS parent would will still actually be ruining your kids lives after they are married and have children. Motivation to play the game comes from within, not showing how cool you are on the field to the applause of others. I've played for tens of thousands cheering me and my team on, but it wasn't soccer. I played for myself first, follow players second, coach third, school fourth, and friends and relatives last. You, I'll bet, are a defective parent. But, sadly, you may never reach that understanding of yourself.

This really makes no sense when you read the post you were responding to. Is reading comprehension an issue for you?

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The name calling makes you the suspect parent

My opinion wherein I don't live my life through my kids is ruining your kid? You are a typical full of BS parent would will still actually be ruining your kids lives after they are married and have children. Motivation to play the game comes from within, not showing how cool you are on the field to the applause of others. I've played for tens of thousands cheering me and my team on, but it wasn't soccer. I played for myself first, follow players second, coach third, school fourth, and friends and relatives last. You, I'll bet, are a defective parent. But, sadly, you may never reach that understanding of yourself.

First I'm not the person who you responded to. Second the childish name calling and bragging makes me question your grasp of proper parenting. I can only hope that as you get older you develop the maturity to be the role model you obviously think you already are.

How's that for a taste of your own medicine!

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Why wouldn't kids be excited to play in front of crowds?

I posted what you are replying to. My daughters HS team has mostly club players but from all over. I am clearly predjudiced but I'd say my daughter is top 3 on her club team and top 3 on her HS team. They do very well. The HS team actually has some very talented underclass girls that start.

The girls clearly like the fact that at HS games (in the past at least ) they get a good crowd that cheers them on and celebrates goals. That seems pretty normal. It's not a sign of lack of motive. Heck I played HS & small college football and the crazy crowds (thousands) for HS Friday nights were 10x more fun than the small Saturday afternoon crowds. HS was a lot more fun.

I'd assume that quite a few on her HS team will play at the next level, though not all D1.

Just adding a different perspective. The girls still like club, but HS is fun in a lot of other ways.

There are a few posters here who appear to value the quality of the play versus the quality of the experience for the kids. To those few posters, they underestimate how much it means to many of the kids in representing their schools and playing in front of their friends and peers. Remember that for many of the club kids, they have spent the prior five or so years playing for the sake of competition.

As far a crowds go, of course players get more excited playing in front of large groups of people. It isn't a lack of motivation but a matter of feeding on energy--call it being pumped or amped up or whatever, it isn't a fault. Doesn't matter if they are kids or professionals. If you ask professional players, I bet many of them dreamed of playing in large stadiums and manage to find another gear when playing in Wembley rather than at Ipswich, or Portland as opposed to Chivas/DC United.

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My family and my kid both disliked HS soccer last year, but not due to it being HS soccer, but due to the entire situation of our school, coach and team makeup. It was fun at times, and my kid enjoyed it some of the time, but overall, there was more bad than good. This year, it's much better. The entire situation is different and, so far, many more positives than negatives. Last year wasn't about sour grapes, since my kid was a starter on varsity. I'm looking forward to the year with the crowds of kids, plus, we play a number of teams who have players that are on our club team, and that always makes the situation more fun.

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My DD is really serious at club but not so much at HS.

She plays defense at club, but gets to play attacking mid at HS. Totally different mindset.

Her club team has played in some pressure packed tournaments. HS playoffs are 1/2 the pressure.

HS - the kids don't think it's that big of a deal. They play for fun. It's cool to see girls who are serious at club sort of goofy at HS games. They tend to play pretty well when they relax and get to show off foot skills / club coach restricts the show off foot skills, which makes sense

HS quite a few classmates come out and it's pretty fun atomosphere.

Club - quite a few girls have made it clear they don't like playing in the side where the parents sit. Meaning they don't really like to hear the comments, encouragements..etc.

HS - the crowd really adds to it for them.

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My DD is really serious at club but not so much at HS.

HS - the kids don't think it's that big of a deal. They play for fun. It's cool to see girls who are serious at club sort of goofy at HS games. They tend to play pretty well when they relax and get to show off foot skills / club coach restricts the show off foot skills, which makes sense
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That made no sense.

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My oldest had a lot of fun playing high school soccer. It was definitely not as good for development, but by her senior year my DD had decided not to pursue playing at the next level so at that point having fun is pretty much the only reason she was playing.

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Well, let's see;
AHS @ St. Helens - Probably wouldn't travel to see (AHS 2-1)AHS 4-1
BHS vs Clackamas - Would like to see how Clackamas rebounds (CHS 2-0)BHS1-0
JHS @ Canby - Might be good (JHS 2-0)JHS 10-0
SRHS @ Lakeridge - Could be best game of night (LHS 1-0)SRHS 1-0
SHS vs Central Catholic - Don't know enough about CC (SHS 1-0)SHS 3-1
WVHS @ S. Salem - Last year South surprised some. Westview lost a ton of Sr's (SSHS 2-0)WVHS 2-1
I pretty much stunk the first week up. Let's see what's up next week;

AHS vs Lakeridge (LHS 2-0)
SRHS vs West Linn (SRHS 1-0)
WVHS vs Clackamas (CHS 2-0)
SHS vs Sheldon (SHS 2-0)
BHS vs Lake Oswego (LOHS 4-0)
JHS vs Barlow (JHS 2-0)

Good luck everybody.

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AHS vs Lakeridge (LHS 2-0) - Could be a larger gap, but who knows?
SRHS vs West Linn (SRHS 1-0) - at least 2-0
WVHS vs Clackamas (CHS 2-0) - if Clack lost to Beaverton, I can't imagine them beating Westview.
SHS vs Sheldon (SHS 2-0) - Sunset walks to 3 or 4 goals.
BHS vs Lake Oswego (LOHS 4-0) LO could post 10 more
JHS vs Barlow (JHS 2-0) may be closer than this if Barlow can contain. UoJ 3-2