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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    yep you got me...haha...so touchy!

    I find it entertaining that their is a need to label things a "lesser" or "greater" when you take a hard look at all teams at the U12 teams in the pdx/sw washington area the reality is that there are about 7-8 teams that are equal or comparable.

    Many of these teams have each beaten each other during various times of the season. There is no clear dominant team/club (maybe CFC right now only based on league record in Thorns league) It seems like you are drinking the cool-aid that is provided at your club.

    Have you not looked at the fall league standings for both OPL/ Thorns Premier?

    OPL Standings:
    1st: THUSC 10 win/1 loss/1 tie
    2nd: FC Portland 9 win/1 loss/1 tie
    3rd: Crossfire WUSC 7 win/3 loss/2 tie
    4th: FC Salmon Creek 7 win/3 loss/ 1 tie

    Crossfire WUSC tied the mighty FC Portland this weekend. THUSC has only lost to Crossfire WUSC. FC Portland has lost to both THUSC and Crossfire. Again proves the point that various teams have beaten each other at different times and not one clear dominant or "better" team or club in this age group.

    Thorns Premier League Standings:
    1st: Capital FC Timbers 10 win/0 loss/1 tie
    2nd: BSC Portland 7 win/1 loss/3 tie
    3rd: Westside Timbers 6 win/0 loss/2 tie
    4th: WA Timbers 4 win/4 loss/2 tie

    The Thorns league is a little more decisive with CFC dominating this league with no losses and it's only tie to BSC. There is not one team in this age group in either OPL or Thorns league that has any notable accomplishments this season.

    Not sure why all the posting and boasting and labeling of teams. This is standard/average U12 youth soccer.

    I guess I have a better understanding of the parent reactions on the sidelines now. It must sting when one of us "lesser" clubs beat your "greater" club.
    Take a look at U15 and up last winter, or this winter. There is NO quality left in OYSA by HS ages. Fact. Live with it.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Take a look at U15 and up last winter, or this winter. There is NO quality left in OYSA by HS ages. Fact. Live with it.
      True. That is when the OYSA players switch to OPL teams and replace the players there.

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Take a look at U15 and up last winter, or this winter. There is NO quality left in OYSA by HS ages. Fact. Live with it.
        That may have been true in the past, but I think the soccer climate is changing and you possibly should say there is no quality anywhere at the high school ages except ECNL/Thorns Academy

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          Do parents of every team say "I think we have a special team" here?

          Do the girls on your team compete in other sports and do very well?

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            True. That is when the OYSA players switch to OPL teams and replace the players there.
            Obviously you have a kid that just switched at the high school age.

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              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              That may have been true in the past, but I think the soccer climate is changing and you possibly should say there is no quality anywhere at the high school ages except ECNL/Thorns Academy
              Historically the now OPL teams were the best and in some cases, the only place to play quality H.S. Soccer.

              The field of play has indeed changed, ECNL will be the new frontier, however, for anyone deciding not to be on an ECNL the OPL will continue to have the quality for H.S. play. The thorns academy will have a decent year with lesser competition and a quality group of girls, but it is only one age group, It doesn't have a true league to play in, etc. it's going to have issues.

              We will have to see how all this shakes out. But there will still be some decent teams at the H.S. age that are not part of this and it will be in the OPL.

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                Word on the street is that girls '03 West and East RTCs played each other over the weekend. What's the scoop on the two groups? I'm assuming they haven't been diluted by ecnl, yet.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Take a look at U15 and up last winter, or this winter. There is NO quality left in OYSA by HS ages. Fact. Live with it.
                  Enough with the OPL propaganda. There is just as much if not more quality left in OYSA as there is in the OPL. The OPL for girls is mostly B and C teams at the high school ages now.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Enough with the OPL propaganda. There is just as much if not more quality left in OYSA as there is in the OPL. The OPL for girls is mostly B and C teams at the high school ages now.
                    So you admit that OPL B and C teams are on the same level as OYSA A teams? Seems that is what you are saying.

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      So you admit that OPL B and C teams are on the same level as OYSA A teams? Seems that is what you are saying.
                      I know for sure that OPL C teams can hang with OYSA B teams. They were beating them all summer long in tournament play.

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I know for sure that OPL C teams can hang with OYSA B teams. They were beating them all summer long in tournament play.
                        I don't understand. At this age group there are no OPL C teams. Unless you mean all the teams other than THUSC Emerald and FCP Onyx.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          I know for sure that OPL C teams can hang with OYSA B teams. They were beating them all summer long in tournament play.
                          Please take your OPL discussions/progranda and U15 discussions to the proper forum (ECNL: Elitist Crap Nobody Likes)

                          This thread is titled Girls 02 , in case you forgot that is 11 year olds.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I don't understand. At this age group there are no OPL C teams. Unless you mean all the teams other than THUSC Emerald and FCP Onyx.
                            It was a more general comment, not specific to G02. But it will become relevant to this age group over the next year.

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Word on the street is that girls '03 West and East RTCs played each other over the weekend. What's the scoop on the two groups? I'm assuming they haven't been diluted by ecnl, yet.
                              West dominated East

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                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                West dominated East
                                Does West have a lot of FCP girls? Is there a lot of talent on West or did East just not get much talent with their pool?

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