Northwest Champions League Teams Posted

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Plus, you go to a tournament like Surf and don't move on from group it's an awfully expensive 3 games. How many of you have had a team advance to a final like that? Not many. It depends. From a player who has won both "I'd rather win a tournament like NWCL than get blown out at Surf." On a really good team, Surf is better. There aren't that many really good teams in Oregon or Washington.

Agreed. Additionally, 1) there is no Surf this time of year 2) there is no assurance your team will get in 3) good clubs such as LOSC-FC, etc will do both if not now in HS. Don't get too wrapped up in elite tourneys for 12 yr olds. NWCL looking better each year.

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Agreed. Additionally, 1) there is no Surf this time of year 2) there is no assurance your team will get in 3) good clubs such as LOSC-FC, etc will do both if not now in HS. Don't get too wrapped up in elite tourneys for 12 yr olds. NWCL looking better each year.

Agreed. Too much hype is put into these elite tourneys at the younger age groups when it isn't necessary.

NWCL is sufficient enough.

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Agreed. Too much hype is put into these elite tourneys at the younger age groups when it isn't necessary.

NWCL is sufficient enough.

For Oregon team, sure...

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For Oregon team, sure...

I tend to agree with the above comments. Spending generously on tourney's for 13 year olds to travel, stay in hotels, etc seems fun but excessive. I personally don't want to spend thousands, but especially when I can drive to Seattle, pay hundreds and get good competition. Making broad sweeping statemenets such as "...for Oregon teams" is patronizing and really doesn't reflect the current and potential talent in the state. I was reading over a list of the past few years showing where kids from the area are furthering their futbol. Very impressive, and can be done without paying a fourtune.

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Don't knock it! This is very exciting for the players and it may be the highest level of tournament they ever play in. Stop being so depressive!

You're looking at it through Oregon, Idaho and BC lenses. Also, for Washington teams that are at a similar level. But for top Washington teams, why spend the time and money to play teams that don't provide good level of competition? For them, it's not "exciting for the players" and it "isn't the highest level of tournament they ever play in". That's why those teams don't benefit from it and are better off not participating.

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Agreed. Too much hype is put into these elite tourneys at the younger age groups when it isn't necessary.

NWCL is sufficient enough.

If you can't beat the top wa teams you don't have a prayer to get into surf unless you win a state title. Good luck with that if the idiot above was told the above from their coach.

If you think nwcl is sufficient enough, someone lied to you flat out justifying why your team cannot get into better tournaments , coach doesn't know how to get in, or the team isn't even good enough to be able to compete on a regional level.

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Agreed. Additionally, 1) there is no Surf this time of year 2) there is no assurance your team will get in 3) good clubs such as LOSC-FC, etc will do both if not now in HS. Don't get too wrapped up in elite tourneys for 12 yr olds. NWCL looking better each year.

1) surf is in July and nov

2) more than likely unless you win a state championship or win nwcl which on the girls side if you aren't part of onyx or timbers you aren't winning it.

You sayig nwcl is looking better every year is probably the most clueless statement. It's getting worse good wa teams are dropping out.

If you can't make it out of group. Nwcl is the best you are going to get. If you are near winning it or win it. There is Absolutly no way anyone wouldn't go to the top ranked an selectivr tournament in the country being able to play against the best the country has to offer.

Really hope this isn't you coach who has made you so off dillusional.


My kid went to surf at u13 and it was one of the best experiences for her. They didn't do great but being able to see the college coaches, best teams and get to play at the polo grounds was 10x better than nwcl.

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1) surf is in July and nov

2) more than likely unless you win a state championship or win nwcl which on the girls side if you aren't part of onyx or timbers you aren't winning it.

You sayig nwcl is looking better every year is probably the most clueless statement. It's getting worse good wa teams are dropping out.

If you can't make it out of group. Nwcl is the best you are going to get. If you are near winning it or win it. There is Absolutly no way anyone wouldn't go to the top ranked an selectivr tournament in the country being able to play against the best the country has to offer.

Really hope this isn't you coach who has made you so off dillusional.


My kid went to surf at u13 and it was one of the best experiences for her. They didn't do great but being able to see the college coaches, best teams and get to play at the polo grounds was 10x better than nwcl.

Well said!

Its great to have the kids able to be exposed to the best teams and players in the country early when winning doesn't matter so much. If you are truly talking college ex-poser for your team at the recruitment years, you need to be able to win big in your state or VERY BIG outside your state which you CANNOT do without competing against OUT OF STATE teams teams to prepare for it.


You cannot name 1 team from this area who has put more than 8-10 players from their roster into college, i.e. fc, thusc, timbers and they DIDN'T go to SURF CUP.

The previous poster said it all.

If you can't beat Crossfire or the 2nd or 3rd level WA teams in NWCL that are replacing some of the top ones that are dropping out because they get into surf anyway, than of course NWCL is a huge thing for you.

If you are successful against those teams, you need to be prepare for bigger and better things.

Its like the idiot that said if they could choose from getting blown out at Surf or winning nwcl.........clearly, they don't know what they are talking about.


You get into Surf by winning NWCL. Says something right there. You win NWCL, you go to surf REGARDLESS.

FC Portland got in last year and people started knocking them for not wining. Haters are going to hate because they weren't good enough to have the decision in the first place.

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1) surf is in July and nov

2) more than likely unless you win a state championship or win nwcl which on the girls side if you aren't part of onyx or timbers you aren't winning it.

You sayig nwcl is looking better every year is probably the most clueless statement. It's getting worse good wa teams are dropping out.

If you can't make it out of group. Nwcl is the best you are going to get. If you are near winning it or win it. There is Absolutly no way anyone wouldn't go to the top ranked an selectivr tournament in the country being able to play against the best the country has to offer.

Really hope this isn't you coach who has made you so off dillusional.


My kid went to surf at u13 and it was one of the best experiences for her. They didn't do great but being able to see the college coaches, best teams and get to play at the polo grounds was 10x better than nwcl.

Heck, I say it's 20 times better! And Washington team's is 30 times better than Oregon teams! Also, RCL is at least 18 times better than OPL! Get a clue stoopid Oregon People!

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Truth

If you ever have the option to go to Surf cup in the summer. You will probably be on a team that more than likely understands the reasoning of playing the best as well as the team probably is dominant locally.


If you don't have the option to go, you are probably the majority of posters justifying why their team or coach can't get them in.


Its called best of the best for a reason.

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Heck, I say it's 20 times better! And Washington team's is 30 times better than Oregon teams! Also, RCL is at least 18 times better than OPL! Get a clue stoopid Oregon People!

This thread was started by fcsc coach and parents because no one would believe them that they got a nwcl spot for their 99 after coach trying to cheat out fc portland and LO for it.

I think most parents from FC or THUSC are smarter than that.

For a crappy club and team like fcsc it is the best they will get and even struggle in that.

They struggle in NWCL as most local teams struggle at Surf. Thats saying something.

My kid would love the opportunity to play at Surf, whether guest or her team. Its just logic.

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Well said!

Its great to have the kids able to be exposed to the best teams and players in the country early when winning doesn't matter so much. If you are truly talking college ex-poser for your team at the recruitment years, you need to be able to win big in your state or VERY BIG outside your state which you CANNOT do without competing against OUT OF STATE teams teams to prepare for it.


You cannot name 1 team from this area who has put more than 8-10 players from their roster into college, i.e. fc, thusc, timbers and they DIDN'T go to SURF CUP.

The previous poster said it all.

If you can't beat Crossfire or the 2nd or 3rd level WA teams in NWCL that are replacing some of the top ones that are dropping out because they get into surf anyway, than of course NWCL is a huge thing for you.

If you are successful against those teams, you need to be prepare for bigger and better things.

Its like the idiot that said if they could choose from getting blown out at Surf or winning nwcl.........clearly, they don't know what they are talking about.


You get into Surf by winning NWCL. Says something right there. You win NWCL, you go to surf REGARDLESS.

FC Portland got in last year and people started knocking them for not wining. Haters are going to hate because they weren't good enough to have the decision in the first place.

Review the results from NWCL, both the HS and children's division. Both ECNL teams, XFire and WP played in every division. That's not good competition from Washington? I also saw many other quality teams. I agree, playing in Surf as a HS team is great and most of our good teams go and perform well, however thinking 13 yr olds are getting exposure to colleges is stretching the reality. They get exposure yes, as the coaches walk by their games to the U15's and up.

The debate isn't is Surf Cup good. NWCL is quality, so good clubs can do both right?

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If you ever have the option to go to Surf cup in the summer. You will probably be on a team that more than likely understands the reasoning of playing the best as well as the team probably is dominant locally.


If you don't have the option to go, you are probably the majority of posters justifying why their team or coach can't get them in.


Its called best of the best for a reason.

You've got to be dominant in your state and/or dominant in the northwest.

Just because you win Cascadia challenge at eastside doesn't mean you re good enough.

Onyx or Timbers 99/00 for NWCL and your respective OPL state cup champions.

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Review the results from NWCL, both the HS and children's division. Both ECNL teams, XFire and WP played in every division. That's not good competition from Washington? I also saw many other quality teams. I agree, playing in Surf as a HS team is great and most of our good teams go and perform well, however thinking 13 yr olds are getting exposure to colleges is stretching the reality. They get exposure yes, as the coaches walk by their games to the U15's and up.

The debate isn't is Surf Cup good. NWCL is quality, so good clubs can do both right?

Sure you get ECNL teams, but thats two teams. Top teams from WA that would probably wipe the floor with most oregon teams aren't even in.

So some teams lose a few, with those teams in, most teams from here would be winless.

strike me odd, but id rather play against good teams.

13 year olds don't need college exposure? are you serious?

If your team earned the spot and probably is a dominant contender in the NW or OR, you will be wanting exposure at the hs age. You don't do that by not taking every opportunity that 80% of kids in this area don't experience.

Play against the best puts the average in your league into perspective as well as preparing you to do well later against everyone.

Just ask the older teams that went.

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Sure you get ECNL teams, but thats two teams. Top teams from WA that would probably wipe the floor with most oregon teams aren't even in.

So some teams lose a few, with those teams in, most teams from here would be winless.

strike me odd, but id rather play against good teams.

13 year olds don't need college exposure? are you serious?

If your team earned the spot and probably is a dominant contender in the NW or OR, you will be wanting exposure at the hs age. You don't do that by not taking every opportunity that 80% of kids in this area don't experience.

Play against the best puts the average in your league into perspective as well as preparing you to do well later against everyone.

Just ask the older teams that went.

What floor wiping teams from Washington are not in? Looks like all good ones are accounted for. College coaches also attend NWCL as far as I can tell. Exposure as in playing in front of colleges? Do you think they go to the 7th grade games (serious question)?