Ryan Johnson Oregon Surf Runs Jesuit Womens Soccer

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https://www.osaa.org/docs/handbooks/osaahandbook.pdf

8.7. Undue Influence.
Rule: Despite compliance with the other provisions of these Rules, any student who attends a member high school as a result of undue influence as defined in these Rules, is ineligible for a minimum of one year. Violation of the Undue Influence Rule can also result in penalties to the school, athletic program, and ineligibility for a coach set out in Rule 5. The penalty and any additional period of ineligibility will be determined by the Executive Director based on a consideration of the number of violations involved, the number of student-athletes involved, the nature of the violation(s), the individual(s) responsible for the violation(s), and the extent to which the violation may have been knowing, deliberate, or in reckless disregard of the provisions of this rule and the commentary that accompanies this rule.

For purposes of this Rule, "undue influence" is the attempt by any person (including but not limited to coaches, boosters, teachers, administrators, students, parents, alumni) to induce a student (via in-person contact, phone, text, social media platforms, email, or the like) to attend a public or private member school or become eligible to represent a public or private school for purposes of athletic or activities participation.

(a) Undue influence includes, but is not limited to the offer or acceptance of:

(1) Recruiting to a particular school for the purposes of athletic or activities participation.
(2) Financial assistance (including free or reduced tuition) provided based on a student’s potential or participation in OSAA-sanctioned activities.
(3) Promising employment or any other financial benefit to the student or any member of the student's family, including payment for work that is not performed or that is in excess of the amount regularly paid for such service.
(4) Free or reduced rent for families, including residence with any school connected person.
(5) Transportation by any school connected person.
(6) Any privilege not afforded to non-athletes.
(7) Help in securing or promising a college athletic scholarship.

It shall not be considered undue influence for authorized representatives of a private high school to contact students attending private feeder schools to induce their attendance at the private high school or for authorized representatives of public high schools to so contact students within that public high school's attendance boundaries.

Rationale: The objective of the Undue Influence rule is to prevent member schools, and persons affiliated with a member school, from exerting an undue influence on students with a goal of securing or retaining a student for athletic or activities purposes. This rule serves the substantial interests of Association members of prioritizing academics over competition, protecting young students from exploitation, ensuring an even playing field among competing schools, providing for equitable competition in Association athletics and activities, and protecting the physical welfare of students engaging in contact sports.

1. Q. Does the undue influence rule apply only during the Association Year?
A. No. The undue influence rule applies at all times.

2. Q. Does the undue influence rule apply prior to attending high school?
A. Yes.

3. Q. Is it considered undue influence to initiate contact with a student from another school at any game or contest for the purpose of discussing athletic or activities programs?
A. Yes. Any contact initiated by a coach or other school representative with a student from another school for the purpose of athletic or activities recruitment is considered undue influence.

4. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a school to send recruiting letters to students who already are enrolled in a high school?
A. Yes.

5. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a private school to send general information letters to students enrolled in public middle schools?
A. Yes. Private schools are only allowed to send general information letters to large groups of students in their own feeder systems. Private schools are not allowed to send a general information letter to a student currently enrolled in a public feeder school unless the family of the student has specifically requested information about the private school.

6. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a school representative to discuss that school's athletic or activities program with a visiting student?
A. It would not be considered undue influence if the student had contacted the school first to request information about the athletic or activities program.

7. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a school representative to contact an athlete or activities participant in a multiple high school district about enrolling in another school in that district primarily for the purpose of athletics or activities?
A. Yes.

8. Q. What are other examples of undue influence?
A. If selected individuals are offered free transportation, invited to attend practice or games, or offered or awarded any privileges or considerations not offered to other students, whether athletes or non-athletes, those offers, or awards would be examples of undue influence.

9. Q. What are some allowable practices that would not be considered undue influence?
A. 1) Visits to junior high and/or middle schools by invitation, conducted by approved school representatives.
2) Open houses.
3) Broad-based informational mailings to students in that school’s feeder system.
4) Sports clinics with open registration.

10. Q. Is it permissible for a school to have “Sports Night” or a similar event at which all members of youth teams in that school’s feeder system are allowed free entry to athletic contests at the school?
A. So long as free entry is afforded to ALL team members and not limited to selected athletes, such an event would not be considered a violation of the Undue Influence rule.

11. Q. Is it considered undue influence if a private school sends information to individual elementary/middle school athletes or activities participants?
A. Yes. Informational materials may be sent by a private school to ALL the team members and/or participants in that school’s feeder system but may not be sent only to an individual athlete or activities participants unless the family of the student has specifically requested information about the private school.

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Private schools are great!

Private schools are the cornerstone of class warfare! Great!

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Private schools are the cornerstone of class warfare! Great!

So be it, but they cannot/should not interfere with fair play in athletics. Steve Fennah has been allowed to recruit players for years and no one has stepped into to stop it. If you feel this is unfair and class warfare (which I agree). Do something. Contact OSAA and make your voice heard. Otherwise, just keep whining.

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https://www.osaa.org/docs/handbooks/osaahandbook.pdf

8.7. Undue Influence.
Rule: Despite compliance with the other provisions of these Rules, any student who attends a member high school as a result of undue influence as defined in these Rules, is ineligible for a minimum of one year. Violation of the Undue Influence Rule can also result in penalties to the school, athletic program, and ineligibility for a coach set out in Rule 5. The penalty and any additional period of ineligibility will be determined by the Executive Director based on a consideration of the number of violations involved, the number of student-athletes involved, the nature of the violation(s), the individual(s) responsible for the violation(s), and the extent to which the violation may have been knowing, deliberate, or in reckless disregard of the provisions of this rule and the commentary that accompanies this rule.

For purposes of this Rule, "undue influence" is the attempt by any person (including but not limited to coaches, boosters, teachers, administrators, students, parents, alumni) to induce a student (via in-person contact, phone, text, social media platforms, email, or the like) to attend a public or private member school or become eligible to represent a public or private school for purposes of athletic or activities participation.

(a) Undue influence includes, but is not limited to the offer or acceptance of:

(1) Recruiting to a particular school for the purposes of athletic or activities participation.
(2) Financial assistance (including free or reduced tuition) provided based on a student’s potential or participation in OSAA-sanctioned activities.
(3) Promising employment or any other financial benefit to the student or any member of the student's family, including payment for work that is not performed or that is in excess of the amount regularly paid for such service.
(4) Free or reduced rent for families, including residence with any school connected person.
(5) Transportation by any school connected person.
(6) Any privilege not afforded to non-athletes.
(7) Help in securing or promising a college athletic scholarship.

It shall not be considered undue influence for authorized representatives of a private high school to contact students attending private feeder schools to induce their attendance at the private high school or for authorized representatives of public high schools to so contact students within that public high school's attendance boundaries.

Rationale: The objective of the Undue Influence rule is to prevent member schools, and persons affiliated with a member school, from exerting an undue influence on students with a goal of securing or retaining a student for athletic or activities purposes. This rule serves the substantial interests of Association members of prioritizing academics over competition, protecting young students from exploitation, ensuring an even playing field among competing schools, providing for equitable competition in Association athletics and activities, and protecting the physical welfare of students engaging in contact sports.

1. Q. Does the undue influence rule apply only during the Association Year?
A. No. The undue influence rule applies at all times.

2. Q. Does the undue influence rule apply prior to attending high school?
A. Yes.

3. Q. Is it considered undue influence to initiate contact with a student from another school at any game or contest for the purpose of discussing athletic or activities programs?
A. Yes. Any contact initiated by a coach or other school representative with a student from another school for the purpose of athletic or activities recruitment is considered undue influence.

4. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a school to send recruiting letters to students who already are enrolled in a high school?
A. Yes.

5. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a private school to send general information letters to students enrolled in public middle schools?
A. Yes. Private schools are only allowed to send general information letters to large groups of students in their own feeder systems. Private schools are not allowed to send a general information letter to a student currently enrolled in a public feeder school unless the family of the student has specifically requested information about the private school.

6. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a school representative to discuss that school's athletic or activities program with a visiting student?
A. It would not be considered undue influence if the student had contacted the school first to request information about the athletic or activities program.

7. Q. Is it considered undue influence for a school representative to contact an athlete or activities participant in a multiple high school district about enrolling in another school in that district primarily for the purpose of athletics or activities?
A. Yes.

8. Q. What are other examples of undue influence?
A. If selected individuals are offered free transportation, invited to attend practice or games, or offered or awarded any privileges or considerations not offered to other students, whether athletes or non-athletes, those offers, or awards would be examples of undue influence.

9. Q. What are some allowable practices that would not be considered undue influence?
A. 1) Visits to junior high and/or middle schools by invitation, conducted by approved school representatives.
2) Open houses.
3) Broad-based informational mailings to students in that school’s feeder system.
4) Sports clinics with open registration.

10. Q. Is it permissible for a school to have “Sports Night” or a similar event at which all members of youth teams in that school’s feeder system are allowed free entry to athletic contests at the school?
A. So long as free entry is afforded to ALL team members and not limited to selected athletes, such an event would not be considered a violation of the Undue Influence rule.

11. Q. Is it considered undue influence if a private school sends information to individual elementary/middle school athletes or activities participants?
A. Yes. Informational materials may be sent by a private school to ALL the team members and/or participants in that school’s feeder system but may not be sent only to an individual athlete or activities participants unless the family of the student has specifically requested information about the private school.

Literally Steve Fennah and Jesuit have broken every part of this rule.

why is this allowed to continue?

There are literally 6 players that for sure were recruited and 2 from other schools by Steve and the other players.

Why is anyone supporting this? And I would bet it happens in Volleyball, basketball, football, football etc. But 100% it is happening with Fennah. 100%

and Ryan Johnson absolutely put 3 players on this team as freshman.

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Literally Steve Fennah and Jesuit have broken every part of this rule.

why is this allowed to continue?

Because, as the late great George Carlin said, "it's a club and you ain't in it."

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Because, as the late great George Carlin said, "it's a club and you ain't in it."

Are you talking about the Diddy party starring Fennah
and the RJ friends club? If so, will skip.

Any plans for Surf to be first place this year after your season ends on Saturday?
Looks like you guys are in 10th for ECNL 2010? Curious what your next steps are?

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The irony is almost too much.
The guy who was fired from his club for recruiting is the guy whose, wait for it… recruiting might bring down the state’s most decorated high school coach?
I would laugh if it wasn’t so absurd.
The thing is, RJ spent most of the year TELLING people that he could get them into Jesuit. One might even say, he bragged about it.
A lot.
To a lot of people.
Maybe to too many people.

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All private schools recruit. Its called sales.

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Literally Steve Fennah and Jesuit have broken every part of this rule.

why is this allowed to continue?

There are literally 6 players that for sure were recruited and 2 from other schools by Steve and the other players.

Why is anyone supporting this? And I would bet it happens in Volleyball, basketball, football, football etc. But 100% it is happening with Fennah. 100%

and Ryan Johnson absolutely put 3 players on this team as freshman.

Why because they are the Catholic and predatory behavior is not only acceptable but celebrated. The Catholic priests were all protected for so many years with the abuse until the curtain came down at least publicly.
Now you have this same predatory behavior at the youth sports level but we know the names. Same concept done for ego, self desires and selfishness. You are abusing the system for your benefit.

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Why because they are the Catholic and predatory behavior is not only acceptable but celebrated. The Catholic priests were all protected for so many years with the abuse until the curtain came down at least publicly.
Now you have this same predatory behavior at the youth sports level but we know the names. Same concept done for ego, self desires and selfishness. You are abusing the system for your benefit.

WOW you have real issues.

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WOW you have real issues.

Nope. This is not the person with the issues. This is a person who appears to be angry about a rigged, corrupt, abusive system. Attacking the victim doesn’t age well. Ever.
And if you believe that this whole thing isn’t crowded with teenaged girls being screwed over by these men’s oversized ego and greed, you are a fool.
I think somewhere in all of the noise of this post is someone with enough information to be taken seriously. My only hope is that they act. Otherwise come fall 2025, SF will roster yet another game-changing-dream-team of freshmen and sophomore transfers that made the team months before tryouts.

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Nope. This is not the person with the issues. This is a person who appears to be angry about a rigged, corrupt, abusive system. Attacking the victim doesn’t age well. Ever.
And if you believe that this whole thing isn’t crowded with teenaged girls being screwed over by these men’s oversized ego and greed, you are a fool.
I think somewhere in all of the noise of this post is someone with enough information to be taken seriously. My only hope is that they act. Otherwise come fall 2025, SF will roster yet another game-changing-dream-team of freshmen and sophomore transfers that made the team months before tryouts.

Nothing has changed since the 1990's. I am sure OSAA and monitored Jesuit and Central for years.

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Nothing has changed since the 1990's. I am sure OSAA and monitored Jesuit and Central for years.

Maybe. Or, maybe something has changed. Maybe the rumors that paying the right “personal trainer” will get you into Jesuit to play soccer turned out to be more than rumors. Maybe someone saw something, heard something, read something that they are willing to bring forward. Maybe the people who have been turning a blind eye are tired of being complicit in the kind of abuse that hurts girls, programs and the community at large.
Maybe rules about recruiting at the high school level exist for a reason.

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Maybe. Or, maybe something has changed. Maybe the rumors that paying the right “personal trainer” will get you into Jesuit to play soccer turned out to be more than rumors. Maybe someone saw something, heard something, read something that they are willing to bring forward. Maybe the people who have been turning a blind eye are tired of being complicit in the kind of abuse that hurts girls, programs and the community at large.
Maybe rules about recruiting at the high school level exist for a reason.

You're adorable. Have you read the news lately? Rules are for losers.

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Maybe. Or, maybe something has changed. Maybe the rumors that paying the right “personal trainer” will get you into Jesuit to play soccer turned out to be more than rumors. Maybe someone saw something, heard something, read something that they are willing to bring forward. Maybe the people who have been turning a blind eye are tired of being complicit in the kind of abuse that hurts girls, programs and the community at large.
Maybe rules about recruiting at the high school level exist for a reason.

Maybe, if some did have info they wouldn't waste their time on this board and would have submitted it by now, or more likely they are full of BS