Jesuit Women’s Soccer

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Jesuit women’s soccer team picked up several new elite level players this year. This could be their best year yet. What other teams are looking good and will be able to compete with Jesuit?

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Looks like Jesuit could not compete well at all with Grant.

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Looks like Grant is a well coached and talented team, and Jesuit is a talented group of individual players.
One day Jesuit will wake up and get an actual coach on the varsity payroll.

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Looks like Grant is a well coached and talented team, and Jesuit is a talented group of individual players.
One day Jesuit will wake up and get an actual coach on the varsity payroll.

Jesuit families don’t care about playing as a team. It’s all about the highlight reels.

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Jesuit families don’t care about playing as a team. It’s all about the highlight reels.

This is so true^^

If you look at how many Thorns players are on the roster (nearly all).. you will get a sense of the type of player on this team. It’s all about the individual and getting a college look.
Grant is made up mostly of PCU and east side club teams that have been good for many years (2008 PCU and Eastside/United). They play possession and good defense. Passing and scoring. Jesuit players just try to take everyone on and score for highlights. This works against most weaker HS teams, but not all.
This is more of a story about the Thorns development vs Jesuit. Not Fennah’s fault….he got players that were taught to be selfish, by parents and the Thorns.

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This is so true^^

If you look at how many Thorns players are on the roster (nearly all).. you will get a sense of the type of player on this team. It’s all about the individual and getting a college look.
Grant is made up mostly of PCU and east side club teams that have been good for many years (2008 PCU and Eastside/United). They play possession and good defense. Passing and scoring. Jesuit players just try to take everyone on and score for highlights. This works against most weaker HS teams, but not all.
This is more of a story about the Thorns development vs Jesuit. Not Fennah’s fault….he got players that were taught to be selfish, by parents and the Thorns.

I could not agree more with this post.
Except for one point. It is absolutely Fennah’s fault. He has built a pipeline for a particular kind of player, and he has benefited from that kind of player for years.
Fennah has a roster of 22 players.
19 of those players made the team as freshmen (or as transfer sophomores.)
There were 5 rising seniors out of JV this season. 3 didn’t bother to try out, and the 2 that did try out got cut.
Grant’s varsity roster has zero freshmen.
Grant’s JV is very good, as is Grant’s JV2.
In terms of solid soccer programming, Jesuit leaves a lot to be desired, and Grant looks strong from top to bottom.

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This is so true^^

If you look at how many Thorns players are on the roster (nearly all).. you will get a sense of the type of player on this team. It’s all about the individual and getting a college look.
Grant is made up mostly of PCU and east side club teams that have been good for many years (2008 PCU and Eastside/United). They play possession and good defense. Passing and scoring. Jesuit players just try to take everyone on and score for highlights. This works against most weaker HS teams, but not all.
This is more of a story about the Thorns development vs Jesuit. Not Fennah’s fault….he got players that were taught to be selfish, by parents and the Thorns.

I cannot speak to Jesuit this year, but I can speak to the Thorns development for the last 6 years that my daughter played with them. My daughter is an upper D1 player now and she was hoping FINALLY in college she would have someone, anyone coach individual offensive skills. For 6 years at the thorns she got coached team possession and defense, and against hard teams her team would sacrifice possession to play a massive amount of defense and try to win on transition. The idea that the Thorns emphasize or teach offensive creation, skills or focus is a joke. Their best qualities are to teach to play to feet and defend, go somewhere else if you want smart offensive minded/offensive skills development coaching. Most thorns players got these qualities if they paid for personal training.

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I cannot speak to Jesuit this year, but I can speak to the Thorns development for the last 6 years that my daughter played with them. My daughter is an upper D1 player now and she was hoping FINALLY in college she would have someone, anyone coach individual offensive skills. For 6 years at the thorns she got coached team possession and defense, and against hard teams her team would sacrifice possession to play a massive amount of defense and try to win on transition. The idea that the Thorns emphasize or teach offensive creation, skills or focus is a joke. Their best qualities are to teach to play to feet and defend, go somewhere else if you want smart offensive minded/offensive skills development coaching. Most thorns players got these qualities if they paid for personal training.

Exactly. High school soccer is almost a totally different sport than club soccer.

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Exactly. High school soccer is almost a totally different sport than club soccer.

Not sure if your sarcastic point is landing. HS is different because not enough players can maintain possession (I liken this to trying to play basketball when only one maybe two players on the floor can dribble- that team just isn’t going to have the ball much). This lack of ball skill leads to boot ball just to get the ball up the field. It also lends itself to one or two stand out players on a team being relied upon to score/defend/do everything. Without enough players on the pitch with technical skills (close trapping, close dribbling, dribbling with head up, ball shielding) to possess it can be hard for a team to….possess. Sounds basic but really let that sink in. THAT IS HIGH SCHOOL. As for Jesuit and Grant, it sounds like both teams have enough skills to possess but Jesuit let their players sacrifice too much possession for individual drive. It is a fine balance. But remember, as the previous post mentioned, the Thorns Academy sound like they emphasize possession to the point they don’t coach offensive development. Hmmm no one is ever happy.

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Thorns better than Oregon Surf, PUC/Eastside better than Thorns? Seems that way

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I could not agree more with this post.
Except for one point. It is absolutely Fennah’s fault. He has built a pipeline for a particular kind of player, and he has benefited from that kind of player for years.
Fennah has a roster of 22 players.
19 of those players made the team as freshmen (or as transfer sophomores.)
There were 5 rising seniors out of JV this season. 3 didn’t bother to try out, and the 2 that did try out got cut.
Grant’s varsity roster has zero freshmen.
Grant’s JV is very good, as is Grant’s JV2.
In terms of solid soccer programming, Jesuit leaves a lot to be desired, and Grant looks strong from top to bottom.

Can you walk me through the mental gymnastics of how a team playing 4 grades worth of players on varsity is a somehow a bad thing? That sounds like a strong program.

You seem to know a lot about Jesut soccer tryouts and cuts so maybe you are too close to the situation to see how dumb that sounds. I’m also sorry to hear your daughter got cut for a freshman.

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Can you walk me through the mental gymnastics of how a team playing 4 grades worth of players on varsity is a somehow a bad thing? That sounds like a strong program.

You seem to know a lot about Jesut soccer tryouts and cuts so maybe you are too close to the situation to see how dumb that sounds. I’m also sorry to hear your daughter got cut for a freshman.

And I’m sorry to learn that your freshman daughter made a team that just got killed 1-5.

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And I’m sorry to learn that your freshman daughter made a team that just got killed 1-5.

Our daughter is rec level at best and we aren’t the types to pay for Jesut. But thanks for confirming your bias and making me laugh about a non league match in mid September. I’m sure the players involved will be thinking about it in college soccer. (Sarcasm since you appear to be a bit smooth brained)

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Can you walk me through the mental gymnastics of how a team playing 4 grades worth of players on varsity is a somehow a bad thing? That sounds like a strong program.

You seem to know a lot about Jesut soccer tryouts and cuts so maybe you are too close to the situation to see how dumb that sounds. I’m also sorry to hear your daughter got cut for a freshman.

It sounds like a program that isn’t developing any of their players, if almost no players are ever moved up to Varsity.

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I love girls soccer, so catty

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It sounds like a program that isn’t developing any of their players, if almost no players are ever moved up to Varsity.

It sounds like a program with a varsity head coach with no respect for his JV coaches.