Body shaming coaches

[Guest]

In soccer you can be too fat to play the game at a high level. Sorry. Football is full of fat guys, called lineman. Derrick Henry's body fat is probably less than 12%. Also he doesn't play soccer or swim

[Guest]

Do you understand the problem with telling an adolescent girl she is too fat? Also to the rest of my point, the composition of a player's body alone isn't the issue. Provide some objective points they aren't hitting. Go out to a 5k, you'll see all body types running running fast.

[Guest]

Do you understand the problem with telling an adolescent girl she is too fat? Also to the rest of my point, the composition of a player's body alone isn't the issue. Provide some objective points they aren't hitting. Go out to a 5k, you'll see all body types running running fast.

How would you go about telling a player that are carrying a few extra lbs to effective, or that is why they are JV or not starting?

[Guest]

All pro linemen, and most college linemen, while large, aren't remotely out of shape; they're professional athletes performing at a high level.

Even in baseball, which used to be the province of guys who are skilled but poor athletes, guys like Bartolo Colon are now rare.

But what ultimately matters is athletic performance, not appearance.

[Guest]

How would you go about telling a player that are carrying a few extra lbs to effective, or that is why they are JV or not starting?

Give them some objective performance feedback. Are they getting beat to balls? Are they slowing down at the end of the second half? What is happening in the soccer game that's preventing them from starting? You can exclude their physical appearance.

[Guest]

OMG, if they are getting beat to balls, don't have the endurance and they are overweight, you have to tell them they are overweight. Not many overweight players have the speed and endurance to play the game.

[Guest]

OMG, if they are getting beat to balls, don't have the endurance and they are overweight, you have to tell them they are overweight. Not many overweight players have the speed and endurance to play the game.

You said it yourself "not many", so some do, so their weight isn't the issue. Coach the game not their body, is it that hard? Do you have a burning desire to call girls fat?

[Guest]

This is discussion has so much bullsh!t in it. If a kid cannot not cut it, they will not play, or will not play as much. If they do not deserve to play that is fair. The following year they may not make the team. Totally fair.

While on the team, as the coach, the players' well being and development should be primary. If the kid cannot perform up to expectations, the coach should convey that information and provide coaching on how to improve. If it is fitness, then the coach should be able to make suggestions on what the kid can do to improve fitness. That DOES NOT include a lazy bullsh!t comment like stop eating so many burgers or whatever. Instead the coach can help the kid understand what they need to do thru questions about their diet, about their at home workouts, etc., it doesn't have to be a long conversation. The coach may have a chat with the parent (depending upon age of the kid). If my kid was told to simply stop eating burgers or whatever, I would know pretty clearly that the coach was sh!t and did not give a sh!t about my kid. Time to find someone else to provide actual coaching. 95% or whatever the actual number is of the kids playing OYSA and other leagues are not going to play in college. Some will stop before high school. A coach that belittles with flippantly given "truths" can have a negative effect for a long time.

The comment that was previously stated to be disgusting is not productive and does not promote healthy change. So if you think that is the way coaches should get their kids to get in shape, then I sure hope you are not coaching. We should be trying to make good healthy adults. Not carrying or perpetuating the abuse forward.

[Guest]

You said it yourself "not many", so some do, so their weight isn't the issue. Coach the game not their body, is it that hard? Do you have a burning desire to call girls fat?

Not many, as in very few. As the level rises from high school to college and above, very few becomes none.

[Guest]

This is discussion has so much bullsh!t in it. If a kid cannot not cut it, they will not play, or will not play as much. If they do not deserve to play that is fair. The following year they may not make the team. Totally fair.

While on the team, as the coach, the players' well being and development should be primary. If the kid cannot perform up to expectations, the coach should convey that information and provide coaching on how to improve. If it is fitness, then the coach should be able to make suggestions on what the kid can do to improve fitness. That DOES NOT include a lazy bullsh!t comment like stop eating so many burgers or whatever. Instead the coach can help the kid understand what they need to do thru questions about their diet, about their at home workouts, etc., it doesn't have to be a long conversation. The coach may have a chat with the parent (depending upon age of the kid). If my kid was told to simply stop eating burgers or whatever, I would know pretty clearly that the coach was sh!t and did not give a sh!t about my kid. Time to find someone else to provide actual coaching. 95% or whatever the actual number is of the kids playing OYSA and other leagues are not going to play in college. Some will stop before high school. A coach that belittles with flippantly given "truths" can have a negative effect for a long time.

The comment that was previously stated to be disgusting is not productive and does not promote healthy change. So if you think that is the way coaches should get their kids to get in shape, then I sure hope you are not coaching. We should be trying to make good healthy adults. Not carrying or perpetuating the abuse forward.

This thread was targeted at a high school coach.

[Guest]

Fat players have fat moms and there lies the problem. Anyone who has ever coached, whether it be in a volunteer or in a paid capacity knows fat white women ruin everything for everyone.