Dang it! well maybe next year.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostJust to make sure this thread gets some legs.
So, why would we want ECNL? Isn't it expensive? What value does it have?
There, that should do it
Lie so much else that gets passed as gospel in the Portland Soccer community, I think this is a load of junk.
Look at the greatest players in soccer, they come from rough backgrounds and have had to struggle to accomplish what they have. Most of the time their soccer life started on a pitch with no grass, maybe gravel, and made up goals.
They played because they loved the game, and played and played and played.
We have created this myth that in order to become talented you must have high level coaching, and you must belong to an elite club, and you must travel interstate, and you must, and you must.
The interesting thing to note is the people selling that philosophy are the ones benefitting from the sale. The tragic element is the more expensive it becomes, the less accessible it becomes.
Instead of being about sport it becomes about status, and prestige and entitlement. Instead of being about the kids it becomes about the adults, and our desire to provide a better opportunity to our little Timmy or Tanya, than a neighbor has provided to theirs.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe a good coach can have real impact on a kids life, I don't believe this difference justifies the costs we see from the large clubs. Sorry, I had to get it out there, because someone has to say it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe advocates of ECNL will claim it is important because it allows better competition.
Lie so much else that gets passed as gospel in the Portland Soccer community, I think this is a load of junk.
Look at the greatest players in soccer, they come from rough backgrounds and have had to struggle to accomplish what they have. Most of the time their soccer life started on a pitch with no grass, maybe gravel, and made up goals.
They played because they loved the game, and played and played and played.
We have created this myth that in order to become talented you must have high level coaching, and you must belong to an elite club, and you must travel interstate, and you must, and you must.
The interesting thing to note is the people selling that philosophy are the ones benefitting from the sale. The tragic element is the more expensive it becomes, the less accessible it becomes.
Instead of being about sport it becomes about status, and prestige and entitlement. Instead of being about the kids it becomes about the adults, and our desire to provide a better opportunity to our little Timmy or Tanya, than a neighbor has provided to theirs.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe a good coach can have real impact on a kids life, I don't believe this difference justifies the costs we see from the large clubs. Sorry, I had to get it out there, because someone has to say it.
From our experience, the Portland area needs something between rec and premier. The clubs want to justify their salaries and expenses but they can't take an average player and turn them into D1 scholarship material.
$100 for rec and over $1000 for classic??? What about the families with multiple sports and kids? Rec becomes boring after U11 and classic is not always possible.
Enough about ECNL! What about the average and above average but not top soccer players and the real needs in our area?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe advocates of ECNL will claim it is important because it allows better competition.
Lie so much else that gets passed as gospel in the Portland Soccer community, I think this is a load of junk.
Look at the greatest players in soccer, they come from rough backgrounds and have had to struggle to accomplish what they have. Most of the time their soccer life started on a pitch with no grass, maybe gravel, and made up goals.
They played because they loved the game, and played and played and played.
We have created this myth that in order to become talented you must have high level coaching, and you must belong to an elite club, and you must travel interstate, and you must, and you must.
The interesting thing to note is the people selling that philosophy are the ones benefitting from the sale. The tragic element is the more expensive it becomes, the less accessible it becomes.
Instead of being about sport it becomes about status, and prestige and entitlement. Instead of being about the kids it becomes about the adults, and our desire to provide a better opportunity to our little Timmy or Tanya, than a neighbor has provided to theirs.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe a good coach can have real impact on a kids life, I don't believe this difference justifies the costs we see from the large clubs. Sorry, I had to get it out there, because someone has to say it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe advocates of ECNL will claim it is important because it allows better competition.
Lie so much else that gets passed as gospel in the Portland Soccer community, I think this is a load of junk.
Look at the greatest players in soccer, they come from rough backgrounds and have had to struggle to accomplish what they have. Most of the time their soccer life started on a pitch with no grass, maybe gravel, and made up goals.
They played because they loved the game, and played and played and played.
We have created this myth that in order to become talented you must have high level coaching, and you must belong to an elite club, and you must travel interstate, and you must, and you must.
The interesting thing to note is the people selling that philosophy are the ones benefitting from the sale. The tragic element is the more expensive it becomes, the less accessible it becomes.
Instead of being about sport it becomes about status, and prestige and entitlement. Instead of being about the kids it becomes about the adults, and our desire to provide a better opportunity to our little Timmy or Tanya, than a neighbor has provided to theirs.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe a good coach can have real impact on a kids life, I don't believe this difference justifies the costs we see from the large clubs. Sorry, I had to get it out there, because someone has to say it.
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostUmm, I was just kidding with those questions. These questions have been discussed, ad nasueum in other threads (with emphasis added). But way to take the bait.
Nothing in your Questions remotely suggested sarcasm. What was he/she supposed to think?
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Originally posted by Unregistered View PostThe advocates of ECNL will claim it is important because it allows better competition.
Lie so much else that gets passed as gospel in the Portland Soccer community, I think this is a load of junk.
Look at the greatest players in soccer, they come from rough backgrounds and have had to struggle to accomplish what they have. Most of the time their soccer life started on a pitch with no grass, maybe gravel, and made up goals.
They played because they loved the game, and played and played and played.
We have created this myth that in order to become talented you must have high level coaching, and you must belong to an elite club, and you must travel interstate, and you must, and you must.
The interesting thing to note is the people selling that philosophy are the ones benefitting from the sale. The tragic element is the more expensive it becomes, the less accessible it becomes.
Instead of being about sport it becomes about status, and prestige and entitlement. Instead of being about the kids it becomes about the adults, and our desire to provide a better opportunity to our little Timmy or Tanya, than a neighbor has provided to theirs.
Don't get me wrong, I do believe a good coach can have real impact on a kids life, I don't believe this difference justifies the costs we see from the large clubs. Sorry, I had to get it out there, because someone has to say it.
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