Opl not about the players

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Yet another decision that the OPL and their board of DOC's made that isn't in the best interest of the players.


Oregon girls soccer is extremely weak on a regional scale.

The league itself is weak as usually they only have 1 or 2 good girls teams with MAYBE 1 competing outside of OR which usually isn't the case.

The OPL has decided NOT to let Vancouver teams who HAVE teams in the OPL, PLAY in the OPL state cup. NOT OYSA state cup but OPL state cup.

Vancouver on a girls scale would compete or be favorites in GU-11, 12's, 13's, 15's, 16's, 17s. State Cup.

Vancouver would have taken their top teams and moved them to the OPL in return.

The DOC's of the OPL voted no. Keeping the league weaker in return for being able to have a better chance at State Cup or winning the league.

Regardless of who you are affiliated with. Keeping better teams and competition OUT of a league for winning purposes is a JOKE.

Development is not the first priority.

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Yet another decision that the OPL and their board of DOC's made that isn't in the best interest of the players.


Oregon girls soccer is extremely weak on a regional scale.

The league itself is weak as usually they only have 1 or 2 good girls teams with MAYBE 1 competing outside of OR which usually isn't the case.

The OPL has decided NOT to let Vancouver teams who HAVE teams in the OPL, PLAY in the OPL state cup. NOT OYSA state cup but OPL state cup.

Vancouver on a girls scale would compete or be favorites in GU-11, 12's, 13's, 15's, 16's, 17s. State Cup.

Vancouver would have taken their top teams and moved them to the OPL in return.

The DOC's of the OPL voted no. Keeping the league weaker in return for being able to have a better chance at State Cup or winning the league.

Regardless of who you are affiliated with. Keeping better teams and competition OUT of a league for winning purposes is a JOKE.

Development is not the first priority.

I'm glad someone wrote this. I heard this from my DD's coach and although Vancouver has a stronger team at our age group, the LEAGUE NEEDS better competition.

It is really a joke. Why wouldn't they do whats best for the kids.

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I'm glad someone wrote this. I heard this from my DD's coach and although Vancouver has a stronger team at our age group, the LEAGUE NEEDS better competition.

It is really a joke. Why wouldn't they do whats best for the kids.

Do whats best for the kids? That's a laugh.

They should be allowed in. Better teams = better competition = better development.

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Yet another decision that the OPL and their board of DOC's made that isn't in the best interest of the players.


Oregon girls soccer is extremely weak on a regional scale.

The league itself is weak as usually they only have 1 or 2 good girls teams with MAYBE 1 competing outside of OR which usually isn't the case.

The OPL has decided NOT to let Vancouver teams who HAVE teams in the OPL, PLAY in the OPL state cup. NOT OYSA state cup but OPL state cup.

Vancouver on a girls scale would compete or be favorites in GU-11, 12's, 13's, 15's, 16's, 17s. State Cup.

Vancouver would have taken their top teams and moved them to the OPL in return.

The DOC's of the OPL voted no. Keeping the league weaker in return for being able to have a better chance at State Cup or winning the league.

Regardless of who you are affiliated with. Keeping better teams and competition OUT of a league for winning purposes is a JOKE.

Development is not the first priority.

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THUSC Parent here. I don't care if you believe me or not.

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THUSC Parent here. I don't care if you believe me or not.

It was all the non Timbers affiliated clubs that voted no.

I wish they let them in.

Westside boys parent -

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It was all the non Timbers affiliated clubs that voted no.

I wish they let them in.

Westside boys parent -

Where was GW ?

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It was all the non Timbers affiliated clubs that voted no.

I wish they let them in.

Westside boys parent -

I don't see the hubbub. If it's about the 'kids' why would Vancouver teams want to play in Oregon? Wouldn't it be better for them to play in WA?

Was there going to be reciprocity? Could or can Oregon teams play in the WA state cup? If so, we should vote for it and all play in WA because it's for the kids. Think of the competition.

It's a 'State' cup. Not the regional cup or battle of the Columbia River Cup. So if you want to play WA teams, do a tourney, schedule a friendly. You can get all the competition you want.

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I don't see the hubbub. If it's about the 'kids' why would Vancouver teams want to play in Oregon? Wouldn't it be better for them to play in WA?

Was there going to be reciprocity? Could or can Oregon teams play in the WA state cup? If so, we should vote for it and all play in WA because it's for the kids. Think of the competition.

It's a 'State' cup. Not the regional cup or battle of the Columbia River Cup. So if you want to play WA teams, do a tourney, schedule a friendly. You can get all the competition you want.

Your point makes no sense in that Vancouver teams pay money and play in the OPL.

Select and Premier all play in the OPL.

OPL State Cup is NOT OYSA state cup that has teams sent to farwest regionals etc.

OR teams CANNOT play in WYSA state cup.

I could point out that WHY should WA teams be allowed to play in OR league?

The option was on the table and the main POINT is that the REASON why they said NO was purely selfish reasons RATHER than for the PLAYERS. Vancouver Timbers would have sent ALL their premier teams to the OPL in return making it a more competitive league AND OPL Cup.

If you put the players first. Its a no brainer. If you put selfish motivations first. You get...well, you.

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Where was GW ?

Thats a bigger joke than OPL DOC's voting to keep better teams OUT of the league and OPL cup.

He's even more selfish than they are.

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Thats a bigger joke than OPL DOC's voting to keep better teams OUT of the league and OPL cup.

He's even more selfish than they are.

It would have been really great to have the Vancouver Timbers in our age group join the league and OPL cup for that matter. They have a better team than my DD's but her age group needs more competition.

I think people would be afraid of losing their players to them as there really is NO top girls club or consistently good girls teams from this area as they fight to even build strong teams.

Vancouver at most girls age would be strong favorites and would draw players.

The original poster was right. If the players are thought about first....it would be great to have more options to play along with better competition.

Unfortunately many times. OPL and DOC's don't do that.

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Hence the reason some of the PDX girls are going way outside the box and playing ECNL for other states. Unfortunately, I believe that the PDX area is too small and the DOCs are too greedy. If the population was bigger it probably would not matter but it is not. Hell, OPL even tore ODP to shreds leaving it a mangled mess. You can't hide what Oregon youth soccer has become.... po dunk. The good news is that those players who are driven are finding ways to enhance their level of play in SPITE Of the OPL.

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I actually think this is the last time VT even considers playing state cup for Oregon for it's A teams. I have never understood OPL's stance on this at all. SW Wa is in the Portland Timbers territory, integrated throughout OPL, but cannot play state cup. There is no doubt it would be best for the kids to let VT in. With the VUSA/WSA merger complete, open tryouts, and better A teams than ever before, I imagine VT votes to keep it's A teams out of the crappy OPL state cup for good... even if OPL begs in coming years. It's fine, our B and C teams might take you up on the offer down the road and win it anyway. It will be good preparation for those players that want to make the jump to Washington State cup some day.

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Maybe this is about developing the Oregon players and is in the best interest of Oregon? There are always other tournaments to play Washington teams. What is the point of an Oregon State tournament that allows Washington teams? How do we know who the top Oregon team is?

Personally, I do agree that if Vancouver play in the OPL fall and spring league that they should get to play in the final playoff (State Cups). Then we could change it to whoever plays OPL but change the name to something else -Timbers league and Timbers Cup? Everyone

I have a daughter and she is getting plenty of good competition in Oregon but we do like playing Vancouver. Beats going to Bend or Medford. Sorry, love you guys but don't have the time or money for traveling with 11 and 12 year olds. We would like to keep it regional anyway for the younger kids.

And why should it be any different for the boys? What makes the girls situation different from the boys? Really, I don't understand if it is about the players, shouldn't it be about all the kids too?

Also, if the teams want to travel to Washington or Cal. for spring break and summer, or other tournaments nothing stopping them. We just had the PCSC cup and that's a whole other thread to talk about those issues. Lots of room for improvement all around. Please if you can do better and want to start a new league to compete with OPL go for it!

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State Cup simply means State Cup! It wouldn't make sense to have Washington teams play in the Oregon State Cup. This is one tournament out of the year that everyone knows you play for your state. Why change it now? I think there is something special in being able to compete for a State title. If each state let other states into their state cup, it would just be another tournament, not State Cup. Good decision OPL!!!

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State Cup simply means State Cup! It wouldn't make sense to have Washington teams play in the Oregon State Cup. This is one tournament out of the year that everyone knows you play for your state. Why change it now? I think there is something special in being able to compete for a State title. If each state let other states into their state cup, it would just be another tournament, not State Cup. Good decision OPL!!!

The problem is that it isn't a true state cup but a competing product that has gotten more popular so you DO NOT end up with the true state cup winners at regionals. Even if you don't win the OPL cup you can advance by signing up. So then the argument becomes well you get a seed in Surf Cup okay but that isn't where all the state cup winners are. Do you see the fallacy?