Pool system: good or bad?

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If only the teams were as defensive on the pitch as the person that keeps replying with such vitriol is.

You got sold something


Take your meds

never addresses arguments. Just replies based on emotion. Typical.

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never addresses arguments. Just replies based on emotion. Typical.

There is no arguing with someone like you, just pity for you and your kid. You got sold a dream and keep doubling down on rhetoric rather than accepting you got snookered by the bald twins.

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There is no arguing with someone like you, just pity for you and your kid. You got sold a dream and keep doubling down on rhetoric rather than accepting you got snookered by the bald twins.

Not replying is easier than this. Just go away.

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No one gives a s**** about younger state champions lol all those teams change by the time they are u16 & up. I promise you coaches TA don’t care who’s a state cup champ when choosing the next batch of academy kids.

Tell me you never had a kid in TA without telling me you never had a kid in TA. The TA discovery program scouts were literally at all of the State cup finals from U11-U15 in the spring. For the U13 and u14 DP pools, a huge number of players was from the state cup finalist teams. You sound like a clueless idiot

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No one gives a s**** about younger state champions lol all those teams change by the time they are u16 & up. I promise you coaches TA don’t care who’s a state cup champ when choosing the next batch of academy kids.

Tell me you never had a kid in TA without telling me you never had a kid in TA. The TA discovery program scouts were literally at all of the State cup finals from U11-U15 in the spring. For the U13 and u14 DP pools, a huge number of players was from the state cup finalist teams. You sound like a clueless idiot

Scouting a state cup final, and caring who wins a state cup are two different things.

Don’t act like winning an OYSA state cup is your ticket into TA when they’d take a random prospect out of a crap team in Albuquerque over a kids from the area if they show more promise.

DP pools aren’t the academy bucko lol it’s just a view from outside

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No one gives a s**** about younger state champions lol all those teams change by the time they are u16 & up. I promise you coaches TA don’t care who’s a state cup champ when choosing the next batch of academy kids.

Tell me you never had a kid in TA without telling me you never had a kid in TA. The TA discovery program scouts were literally at all of the State cup finals from U11-U15 in the spring. For the U13 and u14 DP pools, a huge number of players was from the state cup finalist teams. You sound like a clueless idiot

Scouts? Thanks for the laugh. I actually know the process because one kid has been there for years and it’s laughable.

Nando, kyle and crew are there because they have to be. Because Kyle isn’t good enough to recruit well out of state.

You can see him waddling around at all the out of state mls , ecnl and odp events , and doing nothing because he did the same with my kid. His cell ends in 1743 so you know I know.

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Scouts? Thanks for the laugh. I actually know the process because one kid has been there for years and it’s laughable.

Nando, kyle and crew are there because they have to be. Because Kyle isn’t good enough to recruit well out of state.

You can see him waddling around at all the out of state mls , ecnl and odp events , and doing nothing because he did the same with my kid. His cell ends in 1743 so you know I know.

He’s really fat. So you know I know.

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There is no real pool or real A or B team in Oregon.
Just whom has the money and which political group do you align with.

It's fairly amusing. Just look at the white clubs versus others. You can see the split.
Look at whom they're using as coaches to look diverse, overpaying for it too.

If you think you have pools....I'd imagine asking how when you can't even get by the financial politics of each of these clubs.

........Lift your head up. Holy ****.

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There is no real pool or real A or B team in Oregon.
Just whom has the money and which political group do you align with.

It's fairly amusing. Just look at the white clubs versus others. You can see the split.
Look at whom they're using as coaches to look diverse, overpaying for it too.

If you think you have pools....I'd imagine asking how when you can't even get by the financial politics of each of these clubs.

........Lift your head up. Holy ****.

This is the definition of “a whole lot of nothing”

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This forum is the worst part about youth sports...parents making it more about themselves than their children.

In my opinion, pool systems benefit the younger ages. Between an annual tryout, there is a whole lot of development that can happen. In terms of individual development, the best player and worst player is always going to need to push themselves outside of a team environment to maximize their development. In either a pool system or non-pool system, if they lack the focus and determination to get better on their own, they will not maximize their potential. However, for the majority of children in the pool system, there will be great social and skill benefits from training together. Also, tryouts are such poor predictors for success of the younger age groups. You can have individuals with good technical skill/athletic ability but poor attitude or lack of focus who will struggle to contribute positively to a team. On the other hand, you can have children who have a more mature understanding of the game, but may be shy, and simply needs to get comfortable in a new group of people before their talents are obvious. Pool systems promote fairness in talent assessment, and assuming there is team space and adequate coaching for all children in a pool system, children should play within their relative talent range. If you are concerned about pool systems for younger children, I can't help but think it is because you are insecure about your child's placement on the first team.

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assuming there is team space and adequate coaching for all children in a pool system, children should play within their relative talent range.

Big assumption because there isn’t any of this.

It’s a money grab of to keep kids there vs going elsewhere where they can develop. It’s about money full stop.

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This forum is the worst part about youth sports...parents making it more about themselves than their children.

In my opinion, pool systems benefit the younger ages. Between an annual tryout, there is a whole lot of development that can happen. In terms of individual development, the best player and worst player is always going to need to push themselves outside of a team environment to maximize their development. In either a pool system or non-pool system, if they lack the focus and determination to get better on their own, they will not maximize their potential. However, for the majority of children in the pool system, there will be great social and skill benefits from training together. Also, tryouts are such poor predictors for success of the younger age groups. You can have individuals with good technical skill/athletic ability but poor attitude or lack of focus who will struggle to contribute positively to a team. On the other hand, you can have children who have a more mature understanding of the game, but may be shy, and simply needs to get comfortable in a new group of people before their talents are obvious. Pool systems promote fairness in talent assessment, and assuming there is team space and adequate coaching for all children in a pool system, children should play within their relative talent range. If you are concerned about pool systems for younger children, I can't help but think it is because you are insecure about your child's placement on the first team.

And you just made it more about yourself than your children with that last sentence.

hypocrite

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Thoery on here is that top players on play with top players = that's how they get better?
Then why does the rest of the world disagree?

You all know something they don't? Huh. Weird. Have any data pool to provide support to your lack luster argument? No? Surprising.

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A pool system is great when done properly. I've seen and heard about it done both well and not well.

When it works well it helps drive competition and intensity and practice and makes everyone better. Spots are up for grabs and players can earn opportunities to play in the higher division on weekends if they put in the work. It can also be good if you aren't in the top 4-5 players to play a few games down on the B team sometimes, giving opportunities to make bigger impacts in games, etc. If done with the goal of development pool play can be great.

I've also seen it not work well in cases where the coach has already picked their A team and no amount of work or performance earns any significant opportunity beyond the occasional guest play spot on the A team. In these cases it's usually lip service to try to keep all of the parents happy and keep club numbers and revenue up.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to how it is implemented. If the primary goal is development and effort is put into it, then it can work well.

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huh? Me calling out parents who make it more about themselves than their children, somehow implies I’m making it more about me than my child?

And you just made it more about yourself than your children with that last sentence.

hypocrite