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    By CRAIG MURPHY
    Of the Keizertimes

    If a proposed 25-field soccer facility is built just northeast of city limits, youth in Keizer would be able to use it.

    That was one of several answers provided by organizers with the non-profit 25 fields for Oregon at Tuesday night’s Keizer Parks and Recreation Advisory Board meeting at Keizer Civic Center.

    Carrie Cool, executive director of 25 fields for Oregon, spoke along with Ken Sandblast and Paul Wild. The group hopes to open the 130-acre facility across I-5 from Volcanoes Stadium in early 2014.

    “This all started about three years ago,” Cool said. “It’s all about bringing money to youth sports. We will build across the interstate a 25-soccer field complex, with more ground in the future around the state.”

    Cool acknowledged there is still a legislative process to go through and fundraising.

    Sandblast noted the non-profit nature of the organization makes it unique for such a project.

    “It’s never been done this way before across the country,” Sandblast said.

    Wild said the hope is to get some grants to help out.

    “Proceeds would be distributed first to this area, then around the state,” Wild said.

    Since the idea was first publicized in the Keizertimes last month, several questions have been raised.

    One of the key questions has been the availability of the fields to local youth, as several soccer fields are currently in the planning stages in Keizer.

    “What relationship will there be between your organization and local groups or kids?” asked Richard Walsh, chair of the Parks board. “Will there be any opportunity to use these fields?”

    “Oh yes,” Cool replied. “It will be an open venue. A fee structure will be involved. We still have to have that conversation about what that would be like.”

    Sandblast said other fields already in development would complement the 25 fields.

    “If there are 35 fields, it’s that much better for the future,” he said. “We want kids to be able to play on the fields. We want to get them running. We fully expect we will have ongoing conversations with the community once these are running. We know, once running, it will be successful.”

    Organizers pointed out a typical soccer tournament can attract up to 150 teams for a three-day tournament. Adding up the players, coaches and family members for each team, a large economic impact could be realized.

    “Once school is out, we would expect heavy usage through Labor Day,” Sandblast said.

    At the end of the presentation, Walsh addressed the proponents.

    “This is very impressive,” Walsh said. “Do you think this is going to happen?”

    Cool answered affirmatively.

    “It’s not a question of if, but when,” she said. “We chose this place because of the location…It’s all about the conversation. This is huge for Oregon. We just need to keep this conversation going.”

    #2
    Way to go Carrie!

    This is exactly what kids, our communities, and soccer needs.

    Get this project done and lets get one done closer to Portland too.

    Thank you for your efforts.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Way to go Carrie!

      This is exactly what kids, our communities, and soccer needs.

      Get this project done and lets get one done closer to Portland too.

      Thank you for your efforts.
      I guess I'm just not getting it. There is already a 10 field complex in Salem at CFC. How much use would this really get? How many large tournaments would come to this area? It's within an hour of Portland but there aren't very many hotels in this area. Would some of the fields be lighted turf fields? Grass fields in the Willamette Valley are unusable from Nov-April generally.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        I guess I'm just not getting it. There is already a 10 field complex in Salem at CFC. How much use would this really get? How many large tournaments would come to this area? It's within an hour of Portland but there aren't very many hotels in this area. Would some of the fields be lighted turf fields? Grass fields in the Willamette Valley are unusable from Nov-April generally.
        The CFC fields are some of the worst in Oregon. It doesn't matter if there are 10 in one location if no one wants to play on them. Top level teams don't mind driving a distance to fields if the tournaments can draw the best teams. They are more interested in playing top competition and will drive to get it.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The CFC fields are some of the worst in Oregon. It doesn't matter if there are 10 in one location if no one wants to play on them. Top level teams don't mind driving a distance to fields if the tournaments can draw the best teams. They are more interested in playing top competition and will drive to get it.
          Sorry but the CFC fields are not even in the ballpark of the worst fields in Oregon. Like most grass fields their condition can vary a lot due to weather conditions. I've played at CFC when the fields were immaculate. I've also played there when they were in poor condition. The same can be said for most grass fields in Oregon.

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            #6
            Did you know that a lot of the grass used to install fields for the last world cup was grown in the Willamette Valley? Maybe a complex like this will have the backing of lawn growing companies? The fields could be used to test grass prototype and wear/tear in rainy conditions, etc. Regardless, 25 fields could attract bigger tournaments and the Portland Metro area is not that far away. I've been to tournaments where we drove 30 minutes from our hotel to the playing fields...not a big deal. It'll be interesting to see if the project can be pulled off.

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              #7
              Quality vs Quantity

              Do not confuse the number of fields proposed with the quality and usability of the fields.

              Where they are proposing this complex is a very WET area and drainage would be a problem requiring the addition of a very expensive sand and pea gravel base if they want to have quality year round play.

              Additionally, with out lighting these fields would only be a benefit to club soccer from April - September.

              While Oregon desperately needs this type of facility doing it "right" is equally important.

              To be done correctly they need to have at least four lighted and Turfed fields augmented with how ever many grass field the demand requires as there is no way to sustain grass fields in the winter with anything more than limited play/practice. Sorry but the grass just stops growing after the end of November and does not start again until mid March.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sorry but the CFC fields are not even in the ballpark of the worst fields in Oregon. Like most grass fields their condition can vary a lot due to weather conditions. I've played at CFC when the fields were immaculate. I've also played there when they were in poor condition. The same can be said for most grass fields in Oregon.
                Agree, if you play late season on the CFC fields or early spring they can be a mess, but what grass fields in Oregon aren't? From late Spring to early Fall these are some of the prettiest fields around.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Do not confuse the number of fields proposed with the quality and usability of the fields.

                  Where they are proposing this complex is a very WET area and drainage would be a problem requiring the addition of a very expensive sand and pea gravel base if they want to have quality year round play.

                  Additionally, with out lighting these fields would only be a benefit to club soccer from April - September.

                  While Oregon desperately needs this type of facility doing it "right" is equally important.

                  To be done correctly they need to have at least four lighted and Turfed fields augmented with how ever many grass field the demand requires as there is no way to sustain grass fields in the winter with anything more than limited play/practice. Sorry but the grass just stops growing after the end of November and does not start again until mid March.
                  So by your standard there is no complex in all of Oregon done "correctly"? Lit Turf fields are nice, but it has only been the last 5-10 years where everyone has started seeing them as a standard.

                  People have been playing on grass for an awful lot longer than that.

                  I applaud the efforts, and hope this will succeed. Infrastructure has been an obstacle for too long.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Agree, if you play late season on the CFC fields or early spring they can be a mess, but what grass fields in Oregon aren't? From late Spring to early Fall these are some of the prettiest fields around.
                    Have you been on the fields in August? Injuries all around.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Did you know that a lot of the grass used to install fields for the last world cup was grown in the Willamette Valley? Maybe a complex like this will have the backing of lawn growing companies? The fields could be used to test grass prototype and wear/tear in rainy conditions, etc. Regardless, 25 fields could attract bigger tournaments and the Portland Metro area is not that far away. I've been to tournaments where we drove 30 minutes from our hotel to the playing fields...not a big deal. It'll be interesting to see if the project can be pulled off.
                      BINGO !!

                      The land that they are buying was a sod farm and will be forever. I believe the previous owner will be leasing back the land and at no time will all 25 fields be in use to play on, as they will be growing grass there. So you know they will have good drainage, good irrigation and the best of care chemically speaking. What a marriage of sorts.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        Have you been on the fields in August? Injuries all around.
                        http://cascadefc.com/wp/wp-content/u...55-936x328.jpg

                        Don't hate just because. Any complex is good for the whole. Yes there are times where the CFC fields get rough, just like there are occasionally sinkholes in the Liberty Turf. Overall, the CFC fields have been very nice when we have played there.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          http://cascadefc.com/wp/wp-content/u...55-936x328.jpg

                          Don't hate just because. Any complex is good for the whole. Yes there are times where the CFC fields get rough, just like there are occasionally sinkholes in the Liberty Turf. Overall, the CFC fields have been very nice when we have played there.

                          In recent years the field are bad all the time. They need money spent on them and I'm not sure that will happen in the near future.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            In recent years the field are bad all the time. They need money spent on them and I'm not sure that will happen in the near future.
                            Jim, stop dissen on CFC!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Jim, stop dissen on CFC!
                              Kind of like those middle school fields you call a complex?

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