Is ODP Worth it?

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One Team One Age

If you are U-14 that would be @ Onyx.........So funny how kids who are getting cut there are going to ECNL......That is also pointing out that Onyx owns both of the WA ECNL teams.

So even if we "buy" that Onxy can compete with the two ECNL teams in WA what do you do if you are NOT that age?

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Can we get back to the question?

Okay math expert tell us how much it costs in gas and travel to do both Oregon club and ODP? Some on here say it's about the same as ECNL.

For the coach who has the "formula" for the players getting to college tell us if that is at all dependent up the quality of coaching available at the club and ODP level.

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So even if we "buy" that Onxy can compete with the two ECNL teams in WA what do you do if you are NOT that age?

Easy. Wait until u16 and join the best local team.

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Does anyone have any insight as to why most of these threads are so overwhelmingly slanted to the girls side? For whatever reason, girls parents seem to dominate the discussion. I'm NOT trying to be rude. Just curious as to why that is.

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Okay math expert tell us how much it costs in gas and travel to do both Oregon club and ODP? Some on here say it's about the same as ECNL.

For the coach who has the "formula" for the players getting to college tell us if that is at all dependent up the quality of coaching available at the club and ODP level.

There is more than enough quality coaching to go around here in the pdx area. I'd put them up easy against what the north offers for ecnl. Obviously an mj Tate doesn't do the trick...

And I'll answer the math question.

Odp is 1-3 tournaments with one of them local. If you go the whole route you'll do regionals and it will be 3 trips. Clubs do about 2-3 travel trips. Club dues are what? 1.5k?


Odp subsidizes some of the expenses but not much.

Clubs don't.


Ecnl paying 5k up front. At least 8 travel because all away is flying.
And unfortunately from the previous poster is that you will pay even more in gas even if you bought a car that gets 30mpg. 3-4k a year. Not to mention 18+ hours in the car a week.

There is no comparison on time and money.

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There is more than enough quality coaching to go around here in the pdx area. I'd put them up easy against what the north offers for ecnl. Obviously an mj Tate doesn't do the trick...

And I'll answer the math question.

Odp is 1-3 tournaments with one of them local. If you go the whole route you'll do regionals and it will be 3 trips. Clubs do about 2-3 travel trips. Club dues are what? 1.5k?


Odp subsidizes some of the expenses but not much.

Clubs don't.


Ecnl paying 5k up front. At least 8 travel because all away is flying.
And unfortunately from the previous poster is that you will pay even more in gas even if you bought a car that gets 30mpg. 3-4k a year. Not to mention 18+ hours in the car a week.

There is no comparison on time and money.

Ecnl parents!!!

Cal north ecnl teams are elite compared to the 2nd level ecnl garbage that is in wa!

Send us an email! You can definitely join. It's only 18 hr drive and your flying anyway for games!!

We offer the best training and TOP competition! You want to be the best right?! Play with the best!!!!

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So even if we "buy" that Onxy can compete with the two ECNL teams in WA what do you do if you are NOT that age?

What age is your dd on and I'll tell you what team she should be on and why

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Ecnl parents!!!

Cal north ecnl teams are elite compared to the 2nd level ecnl garbage that is in wa!

Send us an email! You can definitely join. It's only 18 hr drive and your flying anyway for games!!

We offer the best training and TOP competition! You want to be the best right?! Play with the best!!!!

So funny. I can't believe the kids in metro sw area that got to UP OSU uw cal without ecnl. They must have been super lucky!!!

I can imagine the OSU coach took one look at the team they were on and when it didn't say ecnl with it.....red flags must have went up! Lololol

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Thanks for taking all the time and doing all the math buuuuut you are making a few assumptions and comparisons that need a bit of tweaking.
First I don't think one would need 4 years of ECNL to achieve the goal of getting a scholarship or improving the quality of ones soccer. If your kid really is good enough then participation at U16 & U17 should do the trick so you are only going the extra miles for 2 years. So cut the expense numbers in half. Plus you might want to get a car that gets 30+ MPG which makes the round trip cost about $50.
Second if you are a discovery player you are not going up North 3-4 times a week for practice. You travel only on the weekends and during vacations during the school year.
Third you forget how much travel the Neon's and Ireland's and soon to be Onyx's are going to be doing to get the similar exposure.
Fourth you are assuming the quality of coaching here is on par which is a whole separate discussion.
Fifth getting and KEEPING the scholarship are two different things as we have seen with recent teams placements. The speed of play in the ECNL prepares your DD for college and unless your local team is traveling and playing in the top tournaments up and down the coast (there's that travel expense again) she is going to have a hard time adapting and KEEEPING that scholarship.
Lastly it’s not always about the money. Sometimes it‘s about the quality of soccer and the absence of league, club and team drama!

In previous years wa ecnl teams couldn't even win their state cup....guess ecnl prepared them for jack. If that was true which it isn't. There wouldn't be any d1 players coming out of thusc Timbers or FC this year...

Wa ecnl teams play in the B league. FYI.

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In previous years wa ecnl teams couldn't even win their state cup....guess ecnl prepared them for jack. If that was true which it isn't. There wouldn't be any d1 players coming out of thusc Timbers or FC this year...

Wa ecnl teams play in the B league. FYI.

I'm don't trying to point out the facts with you nut jobs.

Have fun and we ll see you back here when it doesn't work out. Too bad the FC coaches of the world will see you comin from a mile away while my kid is playing for the up coach.

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I find it amusing that certain ECNL "experts" posting on an Oregon board (where there aren't any ECNL clubs) think they know what ECNL costs.

Total cost, including travel, is about the amount these experts say the club fees are.

http://www.washingtonpremierfc.com/tryouts/622318.html

Yes, it is not cheap, but the incremental cost over the normal club fees is the travel cost. And any team who wants similar exposure will incur the same costs. The difference is that with an ECNL team, you are guaranteed consistently good competition and exposure.

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Ecnl parents!!!

Cal north ecnl teams are elite compared to the 2nd level ecnl garbage that is in wa!

Maybe at some age groups but there is a Wa ECNL team that is competing very well and is ranked higher than their ECNL Ca counterparts. Each team stands alone.

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I find it amusing that certain ECNL "experts" posting on an Oregon board (where there aren't any ECNL clubs) think they know what ECNL costs.

Total cost, including travel, is about the amount these experts say the club fees are.

http://www.washingtonpremierfc.com/tryouts/622318.html

Yes, it is not cheap, but the incremental cost over the normal club fees is the travel cost. And any team who wants similar exposure will incur the same costs. The difference is that with an ECNL team, you are guaranteed consistently good competition and exposure.

If you are playing as a ECNL discovery player then you only pay a fraction of the club fee, although you pay for your own travel. For Crossfire, they have travel sponsors so the ECNL club fee includes airfare. It really is no more expensive to play as ECNL as it is any high level traveling club team.

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If you are playing as a ECNL discovery player then you only pay a fraction of the club fee, although you pay for your own travel. For Crossfire, they have travel sponsors so the ECNL club fee includes airfare. It really is no more expensive to play as ECNL as it is any high level traveling club team.

Yes. And the Oregon "expert" claims that the club fee alone is $5K. Which it is not. ECNL players pay the same club fee as those on non-ECNL teams in the same age group. The additional cost is solely the travel, and both Crossfire and WPFC have sponsors who help offset the cost of travel.

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Yes. And the Oregon "expert" claims that the club fee alone is $5K. Which it is not. ECNL players pay the same club fee as those on non-ECNL teams in the same age group. The additional cost is solely the travel, and both Crossfire and WPFC have sponsors who help offset the cost of travel.

Very true.

It comes down to an individual preference. Some may feel that their local team gives them all the variety and exposure that is needed. Others may enjoy continually playing with and against different players on a regular basis. There are some high level players that simply do not want to deal with the politics of the high level local teams. One thing is for sure, as a out of area player you never get involved in the petty crap, in fact you don't notice it. It is a side benefit.