Oysa v opl

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My son is not an Academy eligible player. That being said, it is my opinion that the whole OYSA's involvement with the Timbers Academy is based on the need for them to strike at the division between OYSA/OPL. The best players are move on to the Academy making the high school age groups even less relevant then they already are. Thoughts?

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My son is not an Academy eligible player. That being said, it is my opinion that the whole OYSA's involvement with the Timbers Academy is based on the need for them to strike at the division between OYSA/OPL. The best players are move on to the Academy making the high school age groups even less relevant then they already are. Thoughts?

Im confused.

OYSA is not involved with, nor has any control over, the (USSF) Timbers (DA) Academy.

They are the state representative for USYSA, which owns the name Olympic Development Program (ODP), which has no direct relation to the USSF Developmental Academy program.

OYSA has nothing to do with OSAA High School Soccer.

What exactly is your question ??

Do you have a beef with one of the programs I mentioned above or just OYSA in general ?

If so, which one, and how is OYSA interfering with your child's involvement in that program ?

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Im confused.

OYSA is not involved with, nor has any control over, the (USSF) Timbers (DA) Academy.

They are the state representative for USYSA, which owns the name Olympic Development Program (ODP), which has no direct relation to the USSF Developmental Academy program.

OYSA has nothing to do with OSAA High School Soccer.

What exactly is your question ??

Do you have a beef with one of the programs I mentioned above or just OYSA in general ?

If so, which one, and how is OYSA interfering with your child's involvement in that program ?

To clarify one step further - ODP is not officially affiliated with USYSA. OPL could've applied for the rights to oversee ODP if that was their choice.

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To clarify one step further - ODP is not officially affiliated with USYSA. OPL could've applied for the rights to oversee ODP if that was their choice.

So what is ODP affiliated to? USYSA has ODP information on their website. If it weren't affiliated to USYSA why would there be information on their website? And, why do ODP participants have to get OYSA cards?

ODP is affiliated to USYSA just as ID2 is affiliated to US Club Soccer.

They are one of many programs used for player ID into the US Soccer National Teams (U14, U15, U17, etc, etc.)

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My son is not an Academy eligible player. That being said, it is my opinion that the whole OYSA's involvement with the Timbers Academy is based on the need for them to strike at the division between OYSA/OPL. The best players are move on to the Academy making the high school age groups even less relevant then they already are. Thoughts?

Yikes !!!! Do you speak English or just type so fast you cant make a coherent statement in writing ? What it is that you are asking of people here ?

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To clarify one step further - ODP is not officially affiliated with USYSA. OPL could've applied for the rights to oversee ODP if that was their choice.

Im not the smartest there is, but I google searched "Olympic Development Program Soccer" and this is the first thing that came up.

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/program...opmentProgram/

What is the US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program?

The US Youth Soccer ODP Philosophy
To identify players of the highest caliber on a continuing and consistent basis, which will lead to increased success for the U.S. National Teams in the international arena.

Purpose
The US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program was formed in 1977 to identify a pool of players in each age group from which a National Team will be selected for international competition; to provide high-level training to benefit and enhance the development of players at all levels; and, through the use of carefully selected and licensed coaches, develop a mechanism for the exchange of ideas and curriculum to improve all levels of coaching.

How do I participate?
Contact your local US Youth Soccer State Association office to find out more about getting involved with US Youth Soccer ODP. You can find State Association by clicking here. Or, simply contact the US Youth Soccer National Office at nationaloffice@usyouthsoccer.org.

Program Description History
In 1979, the program expanded, the organization became more efficient and multi-year plans were developed. State Associations were encouraged to develop programs which supported and worked in tandem with National and Regional programs. At the beginning of 1982 a formalized program for girls was created, with the addition of a full committee (one member from each Region).

Current Organization
From 1982 until the present, international events for youth national teams have increased substantially and the US Youth Soccer ODP has kept pace by instituting trials and player pools for five age groups in the boys' program, and five age groups in the girls' program.

The US Youth Soccer ODP Selection Process
Each State Association holds ODP try-outs on an annual basis. Age Groups and try-out dates may be different from state to state, based on seasonal and state considerations. Your first contact should be to your State Association for try-out information.

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Couple things come to mind:

1. OPL is NOT affiliated with USYSA.
2. USYSA appears to OWN the ODP program since they formed it in 1977.
3. OPL is NOT a state association.

So how is it that you think the OPL could have applied to "oversee" the USYSA Oregon ODP program if they wanted to make that choice ???

Quit day dreaming and get back to making OPL league schedules so we dont have to start up another thread about what a crappy job your doing AGAIN !!!

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Im not the smartest there is, but I google searched "Olympic Development Program Soccer" and this is the first thing that came up.

http://www.usyouthsoccer.org/program...opmentProgram/

What is the US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program?

The US Youth Soccer ODP Philosophy
To identify players of the highest caliber on a continuing and consistent basis, which will lead to increased success for the U.S. National Teams in the international arena.

Purpose
The US Youth Soccer Olympic Development Program was formed in 1977 to identify a pool of players in each age group from which a National Team will be selected for international competition; to provide high-level training to benefit and enhance the development of players at all levels; and, through the use of carefully selected and licensed coaches, develop a mechanism for the exchange of ideas and curriculum to improve all levels of coaching.

How do I participate?
Contact your local US Youth Soccer State Association office to find out more about getting involved with US Youth Soccer ODP. You can find State Association by clicking here. Or, simply contact the US Youth Soccer National Office at nationaloffice@usyouthsoccer.org.

Program Description History
In 1979, the program expanded, the organization became more efficient and multi-year plans were developed. State Associations were encouraged to develop programs which supported and worked in tandem with National and Regional programs. At the beginning of 1982 a formalized program for girls was created, with the addition of a full committee (one member from each Region).

Current Organization
From 1982 until the present, international events for youth national teams have increased substantially and the US Youth Soccer ODP has kept pace by instituting trials and player pools for five age groups in the boys' program, and five age groups in the girls' program.

The US Youth Soccer ODP Selection Process
Each State Association holds ODP try-outs on an annual basis. Age Groups and try-out dates may be different from state to state, based on seasonal and state considerations. Your first contact should be to your State Association for try-out information.

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Couple things come to mind:

1. OPL is NOT affiliated with USYSA.
2. USYSA appears to OWN the ODP program since they formed it in 1977.
3. OPL is NOT a state association.

So how is it that you think the OPL could have applied to "oversee" the USYSA Oregon ODP program if they wanted to make that choice ???

Quit day dreaming and get back to making OPL league schedules so we dont have to start up another thread about what a crappy job you doing AGAIN !!!

USYSA and OYSA are dying dinosaurs! Not sure why being a "state association" would make OYSA any better than the OPL ... but ok.

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USYSA and OYSA are dying dinosaurs! Not sure why being a "state association" would make OYSA any better than the OPL ... but ok.

Speaking of dinosaurs. Youve got to come up with something new to bitch about.

Fact: USYSA is the worlds largest youth sports organization. US Club could double in size, and this would still be true. Gonna take a lot more than the OPL to do any real damage to them. They [OPL] might control the competitive side of soccer in our tiny lil state, but USYSA still has the most respected, most competitive and by far the most prestigious national championship league in this country for youth soccer. US Club will NEVER match that. People just dont buy it.

Like it or not, they are here to stay. They are the ones that originated all the programs that like the OPL, have copied. OPL/US Club has not invented anything new. Their just rubbing their brand of lipstick on a pig and calling it "New and Improved" and your buying it.

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USYSA and OYSA are dying dinosaurs! Not sure why being a "state association" would make OYSA any better than the OPL ... but ok.

This may come as a shock to you but, OYSA is a 501C3 Non Profit Organization, formed to represent, guide and foster the game of Soccer (through its member clubs) to the ENTIRE youth population of the State of Oregon. USYSA is, as well, an organization that was designed to support the game to EVERY youth player in our country. This is their brand, their program and their rules.

All of which the OPL does NOT and ODP is just one of the many products and/or program they [OYSA/USYSA] offer the ENTIRE state. The OPL will be limited (by their own admission) to just the products they can create and support (weve all seen what the ID2 program has offered our players locally......ZIP). Thank gawd there is still ODP.

They [OPL] register their players (unfortunately mine too) through US Club, an organization that is as weak at supporting their members as the OPL is at supporting the sport (as a whole) to everyone they can.

The OPL shot themselves in the foot the moment they stepped foot in this world. They sold you and I a can of beans disguised as caviar. They promised lower costs from less travel. When is that going to happen ? I have yet to experience a reduction on my players tuition costs, yet were not paying our coaches (per diem) to travel out of town to play teams in our state.

Then, by not having to travel to other parts of our state, we are instead traveling to Seattle. Many of our teams have found success in the NWCL, but as a whole, we are no better off playing the WA teams as we were playing teams from the rest of our state.

Low and behold, the OPL has found some ground to wiggle and we are back playing teams from outside the Portland area (again, at an additional expense). When are these "savings" going to kick in and happen ?

The OPL needs to take a close look at themselves and get back to the original strategy and show us (the buying public) what it was that they promised would happen. Otherwise, they too will become extinct. With OYSA still very much in the picture it wouldnt be very hard for a group of "Non OPL" clubs to revert back, leaving the great 8 to just be playing themselves. How much fun would that be ?

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This may come as a shock to you but, OYSA is a 501C3 Non Profit Organization, formed to represent, guide and foster the game of Soccer (through its member clubs) to the ENTIRE youth population of the State of Oregon. USYSA is, as well, an organization that was designed to support the game to EVERY youth player in our country. This is their brand, their program and their rules.

All of which the OPL does NOT and ODP is just one of the many products and/or program they [OYSA/USYSA] offer the ENTIRE state. The OPL will be limited (by their own admission) to just the products they can create and support (weve all seen what the ID2 program has offered our players locally......ZIP). Thank gawd there is still ODP.

They [OPL] register their players (unfortunately mine too) through US Club, an organization that is as weak at supporting their members as the OPL is at supporting the sport (as a whole) to everyone they can.

The OPL shot themselves in the foot the moment they stepped foot in this world. They sold you and I a can of beans disguised as caviar. They promised lower costs from less travel. When is that going to happen ? I have yet to experience a reduction on my players tuition costs, yet were not paying our coaches (per diem) to travel out of town to play teams in our state.

Then, by not having to travel to other parts of our state, we are instead traveling to Seattle. Many of our teams have found success in the NWCL, but as a whole, we are no better off playing the WA teams as we were playing teams from the rest of our state.

Low and behold, the OPL has found some ground to wiggle and we are back playing teams from outside the Portland area (again, at an additional expense). When are these "savings" going to kick in and happen ?

The OPL needs to take a close look at themselves and get back to the original strategy and show us (the buying public) what it was that they promised would happen. Otherwise, they too will become extinct. With OYSA still very much in the picture it wouldnt be very hard for a group of "Non OPL" clubs to revert back, leaving the great 8 to just be playing themselves. How much fun would that be ?

How is OYSA still in the picture? How did your precious OYSA teams do last year at Regionals? USYSA/OYSA has you sold on their bill of goods...which is what again? Longevity and numbers? Oh yeah, those organizations have served the greater masses at the recreational level really well...job well done. What have they done for the kid that wants more? Nothing. ODP? An over inflated product to fill the coffers of both the state organizations and USYSA. After all, you need money to pay for all the high admin jobs filled by people with zero soccer knowledge! USYA & OYSA have served the rec player well and under served the player with higher aspirations. ODP & ID2 are obsolete for purposes of feeding the national team programs. Most if not all kids are DA players or playing abroad. I will say that you preach a good sermon about OYSA & USYSA. In fact, you sound very administrative like...hmmmm.

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How is OYSA still in the picture? How did your precious OYSA teams do last year at Regionals? USYSA/OYSA has you sold on their bill of goods...which is what again? Longevity and numbers? Oh yeah, those organizations have served the greater masses at the recreational level really well...job well done. What have they done for the kid that wants more? Nothing. ODP? An over inflated product to fill the coffers of both the state organizations and USYSA. After all, you need money to pay for all the high admin jobs filled by people with zero soccer knowledge! USYA & OYSA have served the rec player well and under served the player with higher aspirations. ODP & ID2 are obsolete for purposes of feeding the national team programs. Most if not all kids are DA players or playing abroad. I will say that you preach a good sermon about OYSA & USYSA. In fact, you sound very administrative like...hmmmm.

Well it comes down once again to the problem of the split. Neither organization and it's upper level players are ever going to amount to much playing within their systems.

OPL thru US Club will go no where due to lack of support, both by the parent organization and by the leagues that player under it.

OYSA (as just one state representative) will flounder as well from the lack of participation from our already small state of players in its pool.