FCSC and Pacific to merge

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Reread requirements listed at post 31. Pacific needs to be a club, etc., etc.

Pacific doesnt "need" extra numbers. You make that up?

Sorry, all clubs need extra numbers. I mean they don't need extra numbers to qualify for OPL. OPl does not have a numbers requirement.

http://www.oregonpremierleague.com/d...0to%20join.pdf

I read the list and besides being an alliance and not a "club", I don't see where they do not qualify for OPL. What else would they need to do and what do they need FCSC for? Just asking.

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Sorry, all clubs need extra numbers.

Not at all true for an all-volunteer organization.

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Not at all true for an all-volunteer organization.

Ok. Why do they need FCSC then. Not for numbers, not to help keep costs low--more drama maybe. Why merge with FCSC? What is the upside?

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Ok. Why do they need FCSC then. Not for numbers, not to help keep costs low--more drama maybe. Why merge with FCSC? What is the upside?

This has already been covered.

IMO, if you can forget about the history and drama and just look at it as two businesses that would consider a merger, it makes perfect sense. They complement each other's weaknesses. If they keep the tiered pricing, then it's no different from today (or from VT).

Most of the soccer families in Clark either don't care or thing it makes sense to have two strong choices in the county. Have to question the motivation of those that dont want it.

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This has already been covered.

IMO, if you can forget about the history and drama and just look at it as two businesses that would consider a merger, it makes perfect sense. They complement each other's weaknesses. If they keep the tiered pricing, then it's no different from today (or from VT).

Most of the soccer families in Clark either don't care or thing it makes sense to have two strong choices in the county. Have to question the motivation of those that don,t want it.

The whole idea of WSA and VT merging was to consolidate the premier soccer in this community. Getting the top 15-18 kids at each age that want to be on the most competitive team together for the A team and the next 15-18 on the B team. Having the best in place increases training efficiency and gives the kids on the B a clear visual of what they need to work on to make the A team. Consolidation is what is needed at the premier level in this town.

The merger of PFC and FCSC shouldn't have an impact on the premier level. With as many select level players as we have in Clark county we should have a few options for families to choose from based on location, coaches, friends, etc.. VT select level soccer is no different than PFC or FCSC. It should lead to some healthy town rivalries, well at least we hope they can stay healthy.

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The whole idea of WSA and VT merging was to consolidate the premier soccer in this community. Getting the top 15-18 kids at each age that want to be on the most competitive team together for the A team and the next 15-18 on the B team. Having the best in place increases training efficiency and gives the kids on the B a clear visual of what they need to work on to make the A team. Consolidation is what is needed at the premier level in this town.

The merger of PFC and FCSC shouldn't have an impact on the premier level. With as many select level players as we have in Clark county we should have a few options for families to choose from based on location, coaches, friends, etc.. VT select level soccer is no different than PFC or FCSC. It should lead to some healthy town rivalries, well at least we hope they can stay healthy.

Reminds me of the back and forth that took place over two years ago when Pacific was first starting up.

Same ****, different day.


http://washingtonpremiersoccer.com/f...html#msg260149

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The whole idea of WSA and VT merging was to consolidate the premier soccer in this community. Getting the top 15-18 kids at each age that want to be on the most competitive team together for the A team and the next 15-18 on the B team. Having the best in place increases training efficiency and gives the kids on the B a clear visual of what they need to work on to make the A team. Consolidation is what is needed at the premier level in this town.

The merger of PFC and FCSC shouldn't have an impact on the premier level. With as many select level players as we have in Clark county we should have a few options for families to choose from based on location, coaches, friends, etc.. VT select level soccer is no different than PFC or FCSC. It should lead to some healthy town rivalries, well at least we hope they can stay healthy.

This is the big question, can it stay healthy. If the kids were just allowed to play without parents thinking they were the next great thing and the coach was the problem, things would be much better.

The real question that no one seems to be attacking is how do we improve the highest level. It isn't just population, it is coaching, the clubs, the organization, the rules set out, the lack of standards and standard tactics both for games and technical training, etc. We need that strong person with a vision that is proven instead of just re-circulating the below-average "soccer people" who don't change stripes just change hunting ground.

This isn't going to do that. I think it will help the select and below side, but not the premier side.

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This is the big question, can it stay healthy. If the kids were just allowed to play without parents thinking they were the next great thing and the coach was the problem, things would be much better.

The real question that no one seems to be attacking is how do we improve the highest level. It isn't just population, it is coaching, the clubs, the organization, the rules set out, the lack of standards and standard tactics both for games and technical training, etc. We need that strong person with a vision that is proven instead of just re-circulating the below-average "soccer people" who don't change stripes just change hunting ground.

This isn't going to do that. I think it will help the select and below side, but not the premier side.

The Timbers alliance is what is supposed to improve the operations of soccer at the highest level in Oregon/SW Wa. It may or may not work, but people need to give it time. Rome wasn't built in a day and premier soccer isn't going to change in a year either. Time will tell.

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The Timbers alliance is what is supposed to improve the operations of soccer at the highest level in Oregon/SW Wa. It may or may not work, but people need to give it time. Rome wasn't built in a day and premier soccer isn't going to change in a year either. Time will tell.

The Timbers Alliance won't make any appreciable difference. What is needed is for VT to hire a really good GM who knows what he/she's doing and is willing to make the changes needed to make VT into an elite club...

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Why would Pacific need FCSC to fill the OPl requirements? Pacific has a DOC, not paid at this point, but you do not need a paid DOC to meet OPL.
Pacific just wanted FCSC to join for some extra numbers, they do not FCSC for any other reason.

Rumor is Pacific DOC does not want to keep doing DOC position and wants to focus on building up a premier side for girls (hence all the academy stuff on all the recreational pages trying to get girls signed up). Look at he has done for other Pacific teams. He needs the technical trainers from FCSC who won't come without being paid. if he wants to expand beyone a one or two team kinda thing. You need a DOC to get into OPL and certain premier tournaments. Pacific DOC and FCSC DOC and the Pacific board members want the merger to go through so they can build up the pacific to have premier side. Why do they want to go premier? Ask them? He'll tell you why he wants merger. They will keep pushing till it happens. Said thing is cost will go up for kids to play soccer beyond recreational.

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Money & EGO

Rumor is Pacific DOC does not want to keep doing DOC position and wants to focus on building up a premier side for girls (hence all the academy stuff on all the recreational pages trying to get girls signed up). Look at he has done for other Pacific teams. He needs the technical trainers from FCSC who won't come without being paid. if he wants to expand beyone a one or two team kinda thing. You need a DOC to get into OPL and certain premier tournaments. Pacific DOC and FCSC DOC and the Pacific board members want the merger to go through so they can build up the pacific to have premier side. Why do they want to go premier? Ask them? He'll tell you why he wants merger. They will keep pushing till it happens. Said thing is cost will go up for kids to play soccer beyond recreational.

Those DOC's are trying to expand their pie to get more $'s for themselves. If they cared about the kids they would go coach at the VTimbers and build a power house SW WA program!

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Those DOC's are trying to expand their pie to get more $'s for themselves. If they cared about the kids they would go coach at the VTimbers and build a power house SW WA program!

That was my previous post and I agree totally with you. Merger does no good except to line pocket. People from both clubs should be complaining. It just all about the egos. Sickens me.

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Those DOC's are trying to expand their pie to get more $'s for themselves. If they cared about the kids they would go coach at the VTimbers and build a power house SW WA program!

Wah wah. You really dont know what you are talking about, do you?

Like YOU care about kids (besides your own little aces, I mean) more than the Pacific DOC.

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Wah wah. You really dont know what you are talking about, do you?

Like YOU care about kids (besides your own little aces, I mean) more than the Pacific DOC.

The Pacific DOC wants premier club. Go talk with him.

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The Pacific DOC wants premier club. Go talk with him.

And just who is that? I don't see anyone with a Director of Coaching title.

Pacific FC Committee

The Alliance Committee is responsible for the operations of the Pacific FC alliance. It consists of a chairperson, and a representative from each host club. The current Alliance Committee members are:

Jason Martinez (Co-Chairperson)
Jeff Stay (Co-Chairperson)
Tom Snyder (BG Representative)
Rue Lindgren (EI Representative)
Jason Dewey (LR Representative)
Ken Paulsen (PR Representative)