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    Is ODP worth it?

    What is the current status of ODP and what benefits come if you make the squad?

    Any helpful information known about specific age groups?

    #2
    ODP happens every year. You do extra training and a few events if you are lucky. It’s for the Olympic program and if your kid is good enough you can pathway yourself all the way to the national team. No kid ever makes it that far anymore.

    you ll also have people say blah this blah that about what kids make ODP and which kids don’t. In the end you ll have some good players to train with and the ones that don’t see usually jealous or know they aren’t making the national team so they don’t do it.

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      #3
      It gives kids who make the state and then regional ID camp/team more exposure. Kids get to know a lot of the best soccer players in the West at regional camp. It’s just one of many pathways to be seen and get exposure. It’s no longer a pathway to the youth national teams.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Guest View Post
        It gives kids who make the state and then regional ID camp/team more exposure. Kids get to know a lot of the best soccer players in the West at regional camp. It’s just one of many pathways to be seen and get exposure. It’s no longer a pathway to the youth national teams.
        Correction: It gives kids who pay Thorns and Timbers club fees a chance to attend regional/national camps.

        Don’t fool yourselves, Oregon ODP is owned and managed but the Timbers/Thorns alliance and if you look at rosters and talk to soccer parents you will quickly learn that this is a rigged program. And thus has lost all credibility and value for player development.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Guest View Post

          Correction: It gives kids who pay Thorns and Timbers club fees a chance to attend regional/national camps.

          Don’t fool yourselves, Oregon ODP is owned and managed but the Timbers/Thorns alliance and if you look at rosters and talk to soccer parents you will quickly learn that this is a rigged program. And thus has lost all credibility and value for player development.
          I’m sorry your kid couldn’t even make it to pool play.

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            #6
            What alliance, the alliance is done. Many coaches come from outside the former alliance.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              What alliance, the alliance is done. Many coaches come from outside the former alliance.
              Not sure what your are smoking buddy, but my math shows over 70% of the coaches are current Thorns/Timbers alliance coaches.

              and that is a major step forward from previous years.

              believe what you want to. But name another state that has their ODP state teams ran by a “club” with alliances and promotes their own players and coaches. We will wait for your very informed answer.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Guest View Post

                I’m sorry your kid couldn’t even make it to pool play.
                If you think it is some kind of major accomplishment to make “pool play” at Oregon ODP your bar is very low. ODP in Oregon is a mess and has been for over 5 years.

                everyone in the west laughs at Oregon’s process and teams. It’s a shame. The best players don’t care about ODP at all because they know that the “training” is non existent and they will only be on a team that gets throttled in AZ in January.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  Correction: It gives kids who pay Thorns and Timbers club fees a chance to attend regional/national camps.

                  Don’t fool yourselves, Oregon ODP is owned and managed but the Timbers/Thorns alliance and if you look at rosters and talk to soccer parents you will quickly learn that this is a rigged program. And thus has lost all credibility and value for player development.
                  It’s only rigged when your kid isn’t good enough.

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                    #10
                    My daughter did it one year. She made it to the Regional 4 team. She had fun, met alot of people she runs into now around the country. Had some good training, but she went a different direction. She was never part of the Thorns program. If anything it got her name on some lists for when the recruiting started last year. College coaches seemed to like seeing it on her resume.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post
                      My daughter did it one year. She made it to the Regional 4 team. She had fun, met alot of people she runs into now around the country. Had some good training, but she went a different direction. She was never part of the Thorns program. If anything it got her name on some lists for when the recruiting started last year. College coaches seemed to like seeing it on her resume.
                      Sure……ok.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post

                        It’s only rigged when your kid isn’t good enough.
                        It’s rigged whether your kid makes it or not. Everything involving youth soccer in Oregon is rigged. It’s ran by a local cartel of soccer swindlers who have created a nice system of earning a living off of a child’s game.

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                          #13
                          It is a huge mess. The Timbers are terribly disorganized and communicate poorly. Totally not worth it.

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                            #14
                            Last year was kind of a mess. The flights to AZ for my daughter's team got cancelled due to pilot shortages or whatever it was so all she had was the Friendship Cup which was lackluster this year, given
                            that her team won her bracket the prior year. I noticed that a lot of the talented players did not turn out this year and know that Erik with the Thorns/Timbers Youth was contacting player parents directly to get them involved this year.
                            Many of those players that didn't turn out this year play for GA or ECNL clubs and that those leagues have just as much, if not more opportunity to be watched by colleges than the USYS ODP Regional camp will have.
                            My daughter won't be doing it this year because last year was messy, the amount of talented players has steeply declined, and the college pathway is smaller. I think if a player doesn't live where they have an ECNL or GA club, it could be be a
                            good opportunity (like Bend or Rogue Valley for example) but if you have a player in a GA or ECNL club and they're rostered on the Academy team as a starter, you're getting more exposure over the season.
                            If the college pathway is especially important, put your player in ID camps at colleges. Anson Dorrance used to say that is where he pulled a lot of players from because he knew what he was getting.

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                              #15
                              If your child can make the team and play with like-skilled players, it is never a bad thing.

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