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    LOSC and WUFC planning to go their own ways..

    ...and not provide players to OPFC anymore? Is this true? And if so is it because of Jim Brazeau gone? Anybody heard anything?

    #2
    I thought OPFC was, essentially, a joint venture of WUFC and LOSC.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Guest View Post
      ...and not provide players to OPFC anymore? Is this true? And if so is it because of Jim Brazeau gone? Anybody heard anything?
      Combing nothing, created nothing....the 'merge' spinoff (SPARQ/OSSA/XFire/OPFC) was around before JB arrived at WUSC.& it's still here today. Nobody heard anything there is nothing to talk about.

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        #4
        The figures running OPFC only care about making a mint off youth soccer. Fraser Morrison, Rob Nelson, all of them. Overcharging players, overpromising, underdelivering. How’s this for some fun: unlike nearly every youth soccer board in the state - which is run by volunteers - the OPFC board is run by the paid employees. Hmmmm… talk about lack of oversight… what could go wrong there… or what has gone wrong there…

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          #5
          Had an interesting 1st year experience with OPFC and would be in favor of LO splitting from them. Kid was part of one of the younger aged teams. Most of what was promised (film sessions, nutritional guidance, multiple player-coach meetings, etc) was not delivered. We practiced on grass fields most of the fall despite soggy fields (guessing turf costs more and OPFC seems to be more about the bottom line than anything else) until a few parents finally spoke up. Tried to check out their website to see if I could reach out to a board member but no such contact section on their site. They know what they’re doing here. The people running it aren’t even listed on the website as the shotcallers. Usually when a club charges like $2500 per kid for a season and doesn’t deliver on a lot of things, one would expect a partial refund or some sort of concession. Not here. Overall, not a great experience.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Guest View Post
            The figures running OPFC only care about making a mint off youth soccer. Fraser Morrison, Rob Nelson, all of them. Overcharging players, overpromising, underdelivering. How’s this for some fun: unlike nearly every youth soccer board in the state - which is run by volunteers - the OPFC board is run by the paid employees. Hmmmm… talk about lack of oversight… what could go wrong there… or what has gone wrong there…
            OPFC has got shady written all over it. Heard some stories about why Jim B and the other guy running it got clipped… families should be asking for transparency and holding the head honchos accountable.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Guest View Post
              The figures running OPFC only care about making a mint off youth soccer. Fraser Morrison, Rob Nelson, all of them. Overcharging players, overpromising, underdelivering. How’s this for some fun: unlike nearly every youth soccer board in the state - which is run by volunteers - the OPFC board is run by the paid employees. Hmmmm… talk about lack of oversight… what could go wrong there… or what has gone wrong there…
              Can only speak from experience. Fraser Morrison and Rob Nelson were really good individuals. My family and kids playing soccer were better for our experiences with these two.

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                #8
                Calling the guy 'Rob' is so perfect, on so many levels.

                Thanks for sharing your family's ignorance & profundity at the same time.

                Punchline-The dude's name isn't Rob & he isn't of any consequence or significance at WUFC & LOSC at present.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Guest View Post

                  OPFC has got shady written all over it. Heard some stories about why Jim B and the other guy running it got clipped… families should be asking for transparency and holding the head honchos accountable.
                  Seems like OPFC is slowly creeping and encroaching on LOSC and WUSC territory/players by going younger and younger. Was always under the impression it was only for HS age players. Wouldn’t surprise me if OPFC is running competitive soccer at all ages in the area pretty soon and LO/WU are relegated to just rec soccer. Have little experience and rapport with OPFC personally but have not heard good things about them from parents who’ve had their kids participate in their programs. Can’t pass judgment on them myself so will refrain, but to me, does seem like they’re executing a well-planned business model to overtake the profitable classic/pdp component of LO/WU with little pushback from either club.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Guest View Post
                    Calling the guy 'Rob' is so perfect, on so many levels.

                    Thanks for sharing your family's ignorance & profundity at the same time.

                    Punchline-The dude's name isn't Rob & he isn't of any consequence or significance at WUFC & LOSC at present.
                    Does it matter if he’s referred to as Bob or Rob if his name is Robert? Also, he’s the one in charge of leading the SouthLake park project and still employed by all 3 clubs so I’d say he is definitely of consequence and significance at WUSC and LOSC.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Guest View Post

                      Does it matter if he’s referred to as Bob or Rob if his name is Robert? Also, he’s the one in charge of leading the SouthLake park project and still employed by all 3 clubs so I’d say he is definitely of consequence and significance at WUSC and LOSC.
                      Might as well call it SouthPark and then yes Rob indeed is the man!

                      ROTFL is the on consequence, which is insignificant.

                      BTW even though you already know this, MO is the top dog at both LOSC & OPFC.

                      Why rip to shreds a a good yarn-- when you have a great work of fiction to spew on the educated masses.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Guest View Post
                        Had an interesting 1st year experience with OPFC and would be in favor of LO splitting from them. Kid was part of one of the younger aged teams. Most of what was promised (film sessions, nutritional guidance, multiple player-coach meetings, etc) was not delivered. We practiced on grass fields most of the fall despite soggy fields (guessing turf costs more and OPFC seems to be more about the bottom line than anything else) until a few parents finally spoke up. Tried to check out their website to see if I could reach out to a board member but no such contact section on their site. They know what they’re doing here. The people running it aren’t even listed on the website as the shotcallers. Usually when a club charges like $2500 per kid for a season and doesn’t deliver on a lot of things, one would expect a partial refund or some sort of concession. Not here. Overall, not a great experience.
                        They don't deliver anything they promised as you mentioned and they will never will..they don't care about player development. As long as they have the Directors Mortgage $$ and the owner's son and his friends can play on a team, they have their salaries covered.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Guest View Post
                          Had an interesting 1st year experience with OPFC and would be in favor of LO splitting from them. Kid was part of one of the younger aged teams. Most of what was promised (film sessions, nutritional guidance, multiple player-coach meetings, etc) was not delivered. We practiced on grass fields most of the fall despite soggy fields (guessing turf costs more and OPFC seems to be more about the bottom line than anything else) until a few parents finally spoke up. Tried to check out their website to see if I could reach out to a board member but no such contact section on their site. They know what they’re doing here. The people running it aren’t even listed on the website as the shotcallers. Usually when a club charges like $2500 per kid for a season and doesn’t deliver on a lot of things, one would expect a partial refund or some sort of concession. Not here. Overall, not a great experience.
                          They promised all that and delivered nothing. They don't care. As long as the Directors Mortgage owner puts $$ for his son and friends to play they are happy..salary guaranteed.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Guest View Post

                            They promised all that and delivered nothing. They don't care. As long as the Directors Mortgage owner puts $$ for his son and friends to play they are happy..salary guaranteed.
                            I would be careful with your insinuation that Directors Mortgage gives OPFC money because the owner’s son and his friends play there. Directors sponsors many a club in the greater Portland area and Mark Hanna is a good person who does a lot for the community. My son has played with his son & I have talked to him, his wife & daughter on many occasions. They’re more involved in philanthropy than just sponsoring soccer clubs.

                            All that being said, I agree with previous posters lamenting the lack of performance by OPFC on things they promise. Based on my experience with my own kids, I can say that it seems like a money grab. They have consistently underdelivered and overpromised. They overcharge and don’t give concessions when they don’t deliver what promised. I feel bad for the coaches because they seem to be pawns in the scheme of things, and are often having to hurriedly atone for some of the shortfalls of the club/leadership. Many parents including myself have wanted to express our concerns, but being that it doesn’t seem that there is an independent board there (it’s all paid employees, and no one wants a mark on their kid so no one raises their hand to say anything), it’s problematic. A lot of this stuff also reflects poorly on LO/WU since they are either the parent clubs or sister clubs. Either way, a split from OPFC would probably be in the other clubs’ best interests. The only reason I can see for LO/WU wanting to stay on is they probably get a kickback from every player poached from their teams. It’s all about the money in the end. I did hear that OPFC now has the same coaching director as WUFC. To me, that also presents a conflict of interest but that’s a whole other story.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Guest View Post

                              Seems like OPFC is slowly creeping and encroaching on LOSC and WUSC territory/players by going younger and younger. Was always under the impression it was only for HS age players. Wouldn’t surprise me if OPFC is running competitive soccer at all ages in the area pretty soon and LO/WU are relegated to just rec soccer. Have little experience and rapport with OPFC personally but have not heard good things about them from parents who’ve had their kids participate in their programs. Can’t pass judgment on them myself so will refrain, but to me, does seem like they’re executing a well-planned business model to overtake the profitable classic/pdp component of LO/WU with little pushback from either club.
                              The goal here is to relegate LOSC and WUFC to serving only rec players and have OPFC run the competitive component in the area. They’re trying to emulate the plan laid by their previous parent club, Seattle Crossfire (who I hear pulled the x-fire name from OP because of the distrust in people running it). It’s actually very smart of them to slowly poach players and coaches (and probably other employees) from Lake O and Willamette. It’s guys trying to make $$$ and run a soccer club like a personal business (OPFC) VS likely apathetic volunteer board of directors at LO and WU. LO and WU stand no chance, their numbers on the competitive side have been dropping for years…

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