GU13 NWCL Predictions

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We will have to leave it at we agree to disagree. I'm sorry but quoting results from last summer is a weak arguement. Any of the RCL Div 1 teams in the NWCL are stiffer competition than the OPL Premier teams. Sorry it is. The fact that WPFC played mostly OPL teams in the NWCL is all that anyone needs to see to determine their path to the semis was easier than any team facing RCL Div. 1 teams.
Go ahead and quote summer tournament stats all you want. You look excaptionally silly ... and I'd take WPFC's NWCL schedule vs. the Timbers any day!
WPFC is a very good team and they did what they needed to advance but to argue they had an equally challenging path is plain ignorance.

Any of the RCL teams competition is stiffer than the OPL Premier teams you say? Apparently regardless of the how a team is playing that weekend, the RCL team is stiffer competition?

So here's where that argument backfires. LO beat NWN by two goals, the same as the Timbers. By your logic, that couldn't have happened because any RCL team is stiffer competition than any OPL team. But it did happen. And it wasn't like the 1st place OPL team beat the 6th place RCL team (well that happened too). In this case, the lowly 6th place OPL team beat the 4th place RCL team.

Under normal circumstances, I agree. NWN is stiffer competition than any OPL team. But last weekend they weren't. As evidenced by the fact that they were beaten 2-0 by the 6th place OPL team.

With NWN off their normal form, the only tough game the Timbers had was Crossfire A. I'm sorry, but beating Rush or Crossfire B is not much different than beating the better OPL teams.

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I do think that you have to understand that an argument on how good a team is based on if they had a down game or what not is an extremely poor argument. What makes a team what they are is what they have done prior and if they can do the job when it counts. NWN is a regional contender that made it far in Farwest and went to Surf. To not give out strength of schedule based on you think they had a down game is ridiculous.

NWN didn't have just a down game. They had a down weekend. The NWN that was in Farwest and went to Surf is not the NWN that lost to Timbers, lost to LO, and only beat the worst team in the entire tournament by 1 goal.

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I'm sorry, but beating Rush or Crossfire B is not much different than beating the better OPL teams.

You literally don't know what you are talking about.

Crossfire B beat the Oregon State Champs FC Portland 6-0.... The same team that people were saying is the top team from the OPL.... I suppose beating Crossfire B is just like beating THUSC...or WAIT, FCSC is a better OPL team because they were top of the group.....

You are comparing Crossfire B and Rush to THUSC FC and Eugene? Give me a break.

VT beat Rush without three of their starters including their forward people say makes their entire team....should I remind you that Rush beat Eugene at US Club.


How did your team do against Crossfire B? Or how are they going to do against Crossfire A, Or wait, they aren't playing in December. Sorry. Maybe it was their overly tough schedule against RCL teams.....

oh by your standards, maybe it was the overly tough games against their OPL opponents that prepared them for the RCL who destroyed all the OPL teams, or maybe it was the simple fact they aren't good enough to get in.


RCL destroyed OPL and you seem to think that mid level RCL who thumped the #1 team from the OPL like they were 10 year olds is just the same as playing top OPL teams....

The facts don't support your jealousy and ignorance.

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You literally don't know what you are talking about.

Crossfire B beat the Oregon State Champs FC Portland 6-0.... The same team that people were saying is the top team from the OPL.... I suppose beating Crossfire B is just like beating THUSC...or WAIT, FCSC is a better OPL team because they were top of the group.....

You are comparing Crossfire B and Rush to THUSC FC and Eugene? Give me a break.

VT beat Rush without three of their starters including their forward people say makes their entire team....should I remind you that Rush beat Eugene at US Club.


How did your team do against Crossfire B? Or how are they going to do against Crossfire A, Or wait, they aren't playing in December. Sorry. Maybe it was their overly tough schedule against RCL teams.....

oh by your standards, maybe it was the overly tough games against their OPL opponents that prepared them for the RCL who destroyed all the OPL teams, or maybe it was the simple fact they aren't good enough to get in.


RCL destroyed OPL and you seem to think that mid level RCL who thumped the #1 team from the OPL like they were 10 year olds is just the same as playing top OPL teams....

The facts don't support your jealousy and ignorance.

So how did Vancouver do against that suck OPL team, FC Portland, at US Club Regionals? Surely you thumped them, right? No? Well then surely you thumped that other weak team from OPL, Eugene Metro, right???? Please tell me you took care of those loser teams at Regional!

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So how did Vancouver do against that suck OPL team, FC Portland, at US Club Regionals? Surely you thumped them, right? No? Well then surely you thumped that other weak team from OPL, Eugene Metro, right???? Please tell me you took care of those loser teams at Regional!

Oh, I can't go back to regionals? Only you can? Okay, that makes sense. Good play, Sherlock.

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NWN didn't have just a down game. They had a down weekend. The NWN that was in Farwest and went to Surf is not the NWN that lost to Timbers, lost to LO, and only beat the worst team in the entire tournament by 1 goal.

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH

Of course not!

It was their B team!

That explains it!

Oh geez did those two teams get lucky!

Man I hate to be the four teams that lost to them! FC Portland, THUSC, Eugene, Fraiser!

Next time lets hope we get Nationals instead of Eugene, Valencia, or FC Portland because their losses are subject to their OFF weekend!

I can't believe they even have as many points as Eugene and Lake Oswego on such an off weekend!

Maybe if they have hadn't played Lake Oswego the powerhouse of Oregon, they would have destroyed the weak Vancouver Team who has a cake walk schedule through

Lowly

RCL: Rush, NWN, Crossfire A, Crossfire B

PSPL: Issaquah/Tyncastle(how in the world did FCSC top team in OPL not beat them 10-0)

1 REALLY STRONG team from Idaho.

Man that schedule is so easy compared to Eugene who got to play NWN on a down weekend (which means they are as bad as Valencia) and had to FIGHT through the Top teams:

RCL: Rush

RCL2: WPFC

PSPL: Issaquah

And two AMAZING Idaho teams! One they had a nail biter 2-0 against Nova who is top out of their group!

Geez, I can barley contain myself in wonder how in the WORLD did anyone make it out alive in comparison to VT who seemed to get the WORST teams imaginable!

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So how did Vancouver do against that suck OPL team, FC Portland, at US Club Regionals? Surely you thumped them, right? No? Well then surely you thumped that other weak team from OPL, Eugene Metro, right???? Please tell me you took care of those loser teams at Regional!

Progress is a bitch huh? Too bad you DD's team doesn't know about it. Have fun sitting around in December!

FYI they beat them all this summer besides FC. Wish you could say the same right?

Don't worry, FCSC Nemesis will prepare you for them. Have a good game this weekend! Man what a tough league!

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I don't know why anyone can stand behind the point that Top OPL teams are just like playing RCL teams and schedules are similar or even weaker having to play RCL 1 teams than OPL teams. i.e. WPFC schedule vs. VT Schedule

FACT: OPL went 2-14-1 against RCL this tournament

That is a JOKE.

FACT: OPL's TOP team got EMBARRASSED by RCL mid table RCL team 6-0 who wouldn't dream of dropping even 3-0 on any team from their own league.

FACT: OPL's current top team FCSC got beat by Tyncastle who got steam rolled the entire tournament.

FACT: If you still think that OPL top teams are as good if not better than top RCL teams ....you are an idiot.



FYI: SEATTLE United (top team in RCL last year), Eastside current top team and last year NWCL winners, Pac NW Maroon aren't even in this year.

I would say that Pac NW B team is RCL 1 too and they would probably beat top OPL teams the majority of the time but you would dismiss it thinking they can't beat Top OPL teams until they roll your state champion 6-0 next year.

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I don't know why anyone can stand behind the point that Top OPL teams are just like playing RCL teams and schedules are similar or even weaker having to play RCL 1 teams than OPL teams. i.e. WPFC schedule vs. VT Schedule

FACT: OPL went 2-14-1 against RCL this tournament

That is a JOKE.

FACT: OPL's TOP team got EMBARRASSED by RCL mid table RCL team 6-0 who wouldn't dream of dropping even 3-0 on any team from their own league.

FACT: OPL's current top team FCSC got beat by Tyncastle who got steam rolled the entire tournament.

FACT: If you still think that OPL top teams are as good if not better than top RCL teams ....you are an idiot.



FYI: SEATTLE United (top team in RCL last year), Eastside current top team and last year NWCL winners, Pac NW Maroon aren't even in this year.

I would say that Pac NW B team is RCL 1 too and they would probably beat top OPL teams the majority of the time but you would dismiss it thinking they can't beat Top OPL teams until they roll your state champion 6-0 next year.

Wait! The OPL is weaker overall but the top teams can compete for the top spot in the RCL given the chance!!!!

Too bad the top 4 teams went 2-14-1 against RCL......Maybe Willamete would have had a better showing. Hell even Valencia would have seeing as they beat all the OPL teams this summer.......(well they did lose 3 times to a weak VT team who skated through NWCL on a clearly easy schedule)

The point is, don't talk **** when you have nothing to back it up but trying to diminish teams from another league. This is all you have and I'm sorry you have no accomplishments to defend just break down others.

The first step to fixing the problem is identifying your DD's team problem isn't the players....its you!

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I don't know why anyone can stand behind the point that Top OPL teams are just like playing RCL teams and schedules are similar or even weaker having to play RCL 1 teams than OPL teams. i.e. WPFC schedule vs. VT Schedule

FACT: OPL went 2-14-1 against RCL this tournament

That is a JOKE.

FACT: OPL's TOP team got EMBARRASSED by RCL mid table RCL team 6-0 who wouldn't dream of dropping even 3-0 on any team from their own league.

FACT: OPL's current top team FCSC got beat by Tyncastle who got steam rolled the entire tournament.

FACT: If you still think that OPL top teams are as good if not better than top RCL teams ....you are an idiot.



FYI: SEATTLE United (top team in RCL last year), Eastside current top team and last year NWCL winners, Pac NW Maroon aren't even in this year.

I would say that Pac NW B team is RCL 1 too and they would probably beat top OPL teams the majority of the time but you would dismiss it thinking they can't beat Top OPL teams until they roll your state champion 6-0 next year.

Why do you keep saing that FCSC is the current top team in the league? They are currently in 4th place despite having played one more game than the teams above the. They also often play their play-ups when they go against OPL opponents, something they couldn't do this last weekend.

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Any of the RCL teams competition is stiffer than the OPL Premier teams you say? Apparently regardless of the how a team is playing that weekend, the RCL team is stiffer competition?

So here's where that argument backfires. LO beat NWN by two goals, the same as the Timbers. By your logic, that couldn't have happened because any RCL team is stiffer competition than any OPL team. But it did happen. And it wasn't like the 1st place OPL team beat the 6th place RCL team (well that happened too). In this case, the lowly 6th place OPL team beat the 4th place RCL team.

Under normal circumstances, I agree. NWN is stiffer competition than any OPL team. But last weekend they weren't. As evidenced by the fact that they were beaten 2-0 by the 6th place OPL team.

With NWN off their normal form, the only tough game the Timbers had was Crossfire A. I'm sorry, but beating Rush or Crossfire B is not much different than beating the better OPL teams.

Crossfire B would contend for OPL Premier Title...and at a minimum finish 3rd

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Wait! The OPL is weaker overall but the top teams can compete for the top spot in the RCL given the chance!!!!

Too bad the top 4 teams went 2-14-1 against RCL......Maybe Willamete would have had a better showing. Hell even Valencia would have seeing as they beat all the OPL teams this summer.......(well they did lose 3 times to a weak VT team who skated through NWCL on a clearly easy schedule)

The point is, don't talk **** when you have nothing to back it up but trying to diminish teams from another league. This is all you have and I'm sorry you have no accomplishments to defend just break down others.

The first step to fixing the problem is identifying your DD's team problem isn't the players....its you!

I have to iterject....
you're right MR. OPL DUDE....
in fact....I will take it a step further...

OPL is as strong as So Cal Premier League....you guys are awesome!

Come on....apart from about 6-7 teams at all agegroups in both genders the OPL got slapped around like a red headed stepchild this NWCL.

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Crossfire B would contend for OPL Premier Title...and at a minimum finish 3rd

I agree with that. They would contend for the title. They wouldn't run away with it. Which implies that beating Crossfire B is about the same level of difficulty as beating the top Oregon teams.

Which is exactly the point I was making when I said the Timbers route to the semis was not significantly different than WPFC's, given that NWN was clearly off their game last weekend.

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I agree with that. They would contend for the title. They wouldn't run away with it. Which implies that beating Crossfire B is about the same level of difficulty as beating the top Oregon teams.

Which is exactly the point I was making when I said the Timbers route to the semis was not significantly different than WPFC's, given that NWN was clearly off their game last weekend.

Idiot.

Again. They beat your best team 6-0. They beat both Eugene and lake o.

They would be the clear favorite to win.

I'm sorry I can't write this in crayon for you.

Who would you choose FC Portland or vs crossfire b

You really aren't very bright are you.

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Idiot.

Again. They beat your best team 6-0. They beat both Eugene and lake o.

They would be the clear favorite to win.

I'm sorry I can't write this in crayon for you.

Who would you choose FC Portland or vs crossfire b

You really aren't very bright are you.

Agreed

Nationals beat Eugene FC and Eugene on a down weekend. God they must be bad.

What an idiot to even make that claim

No wonder no one stands near you anymore during a game.

Down weekend, that's an insult to the supposedly top teams.