The future of Oregon soccer

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Can we agree that to move competitive soccer in Oregon forward the OYSA and OPL Boards have to come to an agreement on what is in the best interest of the kids and not their own paychecks and clubs? If we do the question then is how do we get them to do that and if they refuse then how do we as the consumers of their “product” change the leadership of both organizations?

We only have to look to the recent actions of the OPL DOC’s regarding the Sate Cup’s to understand they are not solely motivated to improve Oregon soccer. Since inception the OPL DOC’s have demonstrated they are more focused on their paychecks and perceived power than to form a responsive organization or accept a structure that serves a larger purpose.

Similarly Chuck & crew have not come to the realization that their mere presence is part of the problem and regardless of how accommodating their proposed policy changes are nothing is going to happen as long as they are sitting behind the desks.

So how do we get Chuck & crew to step down? On the flip side, how are we going to gain control over OPL when as DOC’s and coaches they hold the fate of our kid’s soccer future in their hands? This is a serious question because I am not aware of any OPL Club Board that has the courage to take on the OPC and demand meaningful change.

If things stay on the current course we will continue to split the Oregon soccer community in half and our results will be just that, half as good as they could be!

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fire chuck

This is an easy problem. Fire Chucky.

The OPC is eight, really 7 clubs.

The rest of the OPL clubs gain nothing from being in the OPL. Chucky can't figure that out. To rule soccer in Oregon you must rule the $$$$ pipeline. The clubs outside the OPC bring in a lot more money, get their money and the OPC will follow.

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How

This is an easy problem. Fire Chucky.

The OPC is eight, really 7 clubs.

The rest of the OPL clubs gain nothing from being in the OPL. Chucky can't figure that out. To rule soccer in Oregon you must rule the $$$$ pipeline. The clubs outside the OPC bring in a lot more money, get their money and the OPC will follow.

The question is how?

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This is an easy problem. Fire Chucky.

The OPC is eight, really 7 clubs.

The rest of the OPL clubs gain nothing from being in the OPL. Chucky can't figure that out. To rule soccer in Oregon you must rule the $$$$ pipeline. The clubs outside the OPC bring in a lot more money, get their money and the OPC will follow.

To RULE soccer in Oregon? What the #%^*. This isn't some territorial conquest. I totally agree with your first statement about the value of OPL, but am concerned that firing chuck would make the OPC claim victory and would take us the wrong direction.

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Fire Chuck

Anyone with half a brain would see the clubs outside the OPC havw no real vested interest in the OPL, like Bend, CFC, Medford all did not go OPL until there was no oysa.

Chuck's fight is with the OPL, why? There is no reason for the OPL to go back to OYSA, they are making bank'ola, he can't win the battle, but can win the war.

Find incentatives for everyone else, Bend, Medford, Thelo, CFC, BMFC, Hillsboro to all come back. Then decide if you even want the OPC.

Why OYSA lets the Timbers run ODP is beyond crazy to. They should keep it.

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Why OYSA lets the Timbers run ODP is beyond crazy to. They should keep it.

Because the Timbers would have sided with OPL anyways (as they have already) and offered their Elite/DA to the state (as theyve done) and those players would have come anyways.

OYSA did the right thing and recognized that it was the Right direction to head.

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Anyone with half a brain would see the clubs outside the OPC havw no real vested interest in the OPL, like Bend, CFC, Medford all did not go OPL until there was no oysa.

Chuck's fight is with the OPL, why? There is no reason for the OPL to go back to OYSA, they are making bank'ola, he can't win the battle, but can win the war.

Find incentatives for everyone else, Bend, Medford, Thelo, CFC, BMFC, Hillsboro to all come back. Then decide if you even want the OPC.

Why OYSA lets the Timbers run ODP is beyond crazy to. They should keep it.

ODP is only marginally relevant anymore. Plus, OYSA doesn't have the resources to subsidize it like it did in the past.

Likewise, there's no reason for clubs elsewhere to think that banding together will create a credible alternative to OPL. Plus, what type of incentives can you offer. If you're running a competitive program the only things you really have to offer are quality training, and quality competition. You cannot have top level competitive leagues without the top teams and those teams are predominately OPL teams.

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ODP is only marginally relevant anymore. Plus, OYSA doesn't have the resources to subsidize it like it did in the past.

Maybe for the boys

For girls, the tryout turnouts have been larger the past 3 years then in the past 5 years.

Even with the Timbers there is no subsidy. It's pay to play (and make a profit....of any kind)

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The people that are hurt the most are you and I. We pay the club the same amount we used to for tuition, yet receive less.

The clubs complained about a seeding tourney, so the OPL eliminated it. But I didnt see our costs going down from the lack of payment for this tourney.

The clubs complained about scheduling conflicts and referee issues, yet we have the same problem today that we had back then.

The clubs pay the same price for player cards (US Club vs. USYSA), yet if your team decides to play in the OYSA state cup and FWR's, you have to purchase a USYSA card. Then you have to pay to play in their "qualifying tourney" as well.

If the OPL would take over (as has been offered) all the competitive soccer in the state (OYSA's ran league), the OPL league would then be co-sanctioned. All the players would have USYSA cards and if you then wanted to play in the US Club regionals/Nationals you would only have to purchase a player card at US Club. No further qualification is necessary.

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oysa

ODP is not marginal it is all there is for girls and boys up to U-15 The cost sky rocketed when most of the teams left for the opl. Now that the timbers have it the cost has remained sky high. The coaches and admin are the same, the Timbers just folded them in.

If OYSA was smart they would just keep ODP. If you look at the leagues the non OPC teams would have great leagues in OYSA. OYSA just needs to provide a league system that brings them back. Once that happens the OPL teams will have no choice but to return to OYSA or just play themselves. The OPC teams could provide leagues just for their so called A teams but they need the other clubs to form the other divisions. Here is a great secret. The money isn't in the so called A teams but in the lower divisions.

There ya go Chuck do nothing and sit on your fat *** or get your ball$ back and do something.

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Maybe for the boys

For girls, the tryout turnouts have been larger the past 3 years then in the past 5 years.

Even with the Timbers there is no subsidy. It's pay to play (and make a profit....of any kind)

why would you say the boys is not relevant. The 99's won the regional camp tourney against all other states and sent 7 boys to the regional pool and the 98's got 12 regional pool roster spots. boys are doing fine.

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All the other states?

why would you say the boys is not relevant. The 99's won the regional camp tourney against all other states and sent 7 boys to the regional pool and the 98's got 12 regional pool roster spots. boys are doing fine.

Were the Washington boys there? What about the So Cal boys?

The real measure this flawed year will be how many are sent to hold over.