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It looks like CAL south is running their own regional camp this year for ODP in a different location than Moscow.. Anyone?

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It looks like CAL south is running their own regional camp this year for ODP in a different location than Moscow.. Anyone?

Yes. They found it more beneficial to hold it locally an invite programs in rather then travel and be forced to follow in a broken system. Oregon, Idaho, NM, Col, are not getting invites but Cal North, WA, and AZ are.

When you are the best, you can do whatever you want.

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Yes. They found it more beneficial to hold it locally an invite programs in rather then travel and be forced to follow in a broken system. Oregon, Idaho, NM, Col, are not getting invites but Cal North, WA, and AZ are.

When you are the best, you can do whatever you want.

It makes sense, so it looks like Cal North and Arizona have not yet accepted the invitation, but Washington has in all girls age groups. I wonder how this will change selections to National camps?

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It makes sense, so it looks like Cal North and Arizona have not yet accepted the invitation, but Washington has in all girls age groups. I wonder how this will change selections to National camps?

What about boys?

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What about boys?

It looks like the boys program stays the same.But one could argue that there is much better selection on the boys side than the girls side.

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It makes sense, so it looks like Cal North and Arizona have not yet accepted the invitation, but Washington has in all girls age groups. I wonder how this will change selections to National camps?

So AZ and Cal North with do ID as the norm but it looks like Cal South and WA will do theirs separately.

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Some people on here are so f*ing stupid. Wishing ill will ...chomping at the bit and hoping beyond hope that ODP kids will fail miserably. Unfortunately for them, Oregon will still have some ODP kids who will succeed and will make regional and even national pools. Go Oregon.

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Rather than speculate, let's look at the numbers.

In 2011, Oregon ranked #2 overall behind Cal-South in Region IV for total numbers of Regional Pool Players with 51 total. The Boys had 34 and the girls had 17. The boys were 3rd overall behind Cal South and Utah and the girls were 5th overall behind Cal S, Cal N, Colorado, and Washington. But combined, again #2. I don't know exactly what to make of this but, in general, Oregon seems to be producing quality players.

http://www.oregonyouthsoccer.org/ass...l_Rankings.pdf

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Rather than speculate, let's look at the numbers.

In 2011, Oregon ranked #2 overall behind Cal-South in Region IV for total numbers of Regional Pool Players with 51 total. The Boys had 34 and the girls had 17. The boys were 3rd overall behind Cal South and Utah and the girls were 5th overall behind Cal S, Cal N, Colorado, and Washington. But combined, again #2. I don't know exactly what to make of this but, in general, Oregon seems to be producing quality players.

http://www.oregonyouthsoccer.org/ass...l_Rankings.pdf

I think you have to be a little bit careful with these numbers as there are boys in several states that now play on Academy teams and don't (or can't) participate in ODP. In other words, these numbers don't tell the whole story, although they are useful for marketing Oregon ODP.

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I think you have to be a little bit careful with these numbers as there are boys in several states that now play on Academy teams and don't (or can't) participate in ODP. In other words, these numbers don't tell the whole story, although they are useful for marketing Oregon ODP.

So are you saying that Academy players for boys cannot go to Regional Camp, make Regional pool? Really? I don't get that. I'm not being rude. I really don't get that. You would think Academy players should be able to make regional pool, team, national pool, etc.

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So are you saying that Academy players for boys cannot go to Regional Camp, make Regional pool? Really? I don't get that. I'm not being rude. I really don't get that. You would think Academy players should be able to make regional pool, team, national pool, etc.

I don't know how it works in all states or with all Academy teams, but boys that play for the Sounders FC Academy can't participate in ODP or High School soccer. Nothing outside the Academy.

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Understand

You cannot do usys ODP if you're part of the USSDA program, yes this includes the portland timbers DA program.

A point of fact a 95, 96 or 97 Timbers Academy player for 2012-13 who is chosen as a Regional Camp ODP holdover this July is a zero gain situation as they can never play for the ODP Regional Team. (Due to Academy status). National Team selections are made from the pool of USSDA teams or players not served by the Academy program. (Which is no longer the case for Oregon)

It also follows that a Region IV ODP player should be good enough to make the Timbers Academy squad. If they are not good enough to make the Timbers Academy (as a regional team holdover caliber) then it even further diminishes the value of the usys odp progam.

For the player with no chance of making the Timbers Academy this year playing at Regional Camp could be worthwhile.

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You cannot do usys ODP if you're part of the USSDA program, yes this includes the portland timbers DA program.

A point of fact a 95, 96 or 97 Timbers Academy player for 2012-13 who is chosen as a Regional Camp ODP holdover this July is a zero gain situation as they can never play for the ODP Regional Team. (Due to Academy status). National Team selections are made from the pool of USSDA teams or players not served by the Academy program. (Which is no longer the case for Oregon)

It also follows that a Region IV ODP player should be good enough to make the Timbers Academy squad. If they are not good enough to make the Timbers Academy (as a regional team holdover caliber) then it even further diminishes the value of the usys odp progam.

For the player with no chance of making the Timbers Academy this year playing at Regional Camp could be worthwhile.

This post is very helpful to me. So thank you. I follow pretty much all that you have said. So in the case where a 95/96/97 does not make the Timbers Academy squad, but does happen to make the ODP regional pool... can that player still make the National pool/team or does the national pool/team only get created from the USSDA program?

Probably a stupid question but USSDA is only for boys, right? Girls make the National pool through ODP regional camp/teams or what? Just curious.

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It also follows that a Region IV ODP player should be good enough to make the Timbers Academy squad. If they are not good enough to make the Timbers Academy (as a regional team holdover caliber) then it even further diminishes the value of the usys odp progam.

Looking at some of the ODP regional camp players, I can say that there are players who would not make a Timbers Academy, unless the Timbers Academy selection process is done similarly to the ODP regional selections.

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Re: National Team Boy 95.96.97

If a player is a candidate for National Team Selection from the Timbers Development Academy territory--that player will be part of the Timbers Academy. Otherwise the purpose of the Timbers Academy would thrown out the window. Rest assured that the lines of communication between US Soccer and the Development Academy teams (esp MLS) are solid. Sure their could be an exception, once identified that player would be removed from the ODP program and placed directly on the DA team.