2013 ODP Regional Camp Rosters

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Can a kid make the regional team if they don't attend the hold over camp? Is that where they select the team from or do they already have a pretty good idea from the regional camp?

Nothing surprises me. And I think they have already have their top 18 in mind. Everything else is just formality.

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We received a handout at the closing ceremony with detailed information on what to wear, their daily itinerary, etc. I hear food is way better than regional camp and lodging is at a hotel with two to a room. It looks like they train for about 2 hrs in the morning and then break for lunch and classroom, followed by dinner and another 2 hr training session before bed. I hear it's more laidback than regional camp and kids bond more. Let me know if you'd like additional info.

Thank you! I am very new to this. Do you know if they room the girls with other girls from their state or from other states?

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Can a kid make the regional team if they don't attend the hold over camp? Is that where they select the team from or do they already have a pretty good idea from the regional camp?

While I have not seen a precedent for this happening, I had also never seen kids picked for holdover that didn't even participate in ODP and that did in fact happen this year. My child has participated on the regional team for many years now and this is a entirely new protocol. For us it means that my child has no need to participate at the state level any longer as the likelihood is very high they will be chosen anyway since they always have been before.

If your child isn't already on the radar then they definitely need to attend holdover camp. The good news is that holdover camp is actually fun compared to regional camp and less expensive.

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Thank you! I am very new to this. Do you know if they room the girls with other girls from their state or from other states?

I hear they separate girls from the same state.

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Nothing surprises me. And I think they have already have their top 18 in mind. Everything else is just formality.

I think at the first age group and maybe the second that they often pick new kids. After that, a child that is entrenched in the system has to do something to prove they don't belong there or they are almost certainly going to be picked.

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Where and when did you get the flight info? My son is supposed to fly out Monday and we haven't heard anything! This is crazy.

My child is flying out Monday and we received our flight info this morning. Wait until they are picked for one the events. Then they contact you at the last minute over holidays with little more than a leap of faith that it will all work out!!!!

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While I have not seen a precedent for this happening, I had also never seen kids picked for holdover that didn't even participate in ODP and that did in fact happen this year. My child has participated on the regional team for many years now and this is a entirely new protocol. For us it means that my child has no need to participate at the state level any longer as the likelihood is very high they will be chosen anyway since they always have been before.

If your child isn't already on the radar then they definitely need to attend holdover camp. The good news is that holdover camp is actually fun compared to regional camp and less expensive.

Do you know the circumstances for why someone who didn't do ODP got selected? It appears it is a small number but I don't know.

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Do you know the circumstances for why someone who didn't do ODP got selected? It appears it is a small number but I don't know.

The region staff attempted to get several past ODP players who currently play ECNL as guest players for another state. I think their reasoning is simple, they want the best players they can get for the region iv team so they want an opportunity to stack these proven players up against others. Even so, I believe it to be a bad precedent as it could potentially decimate the state ODP teams. So while I have zero doubt that the players selected without having participated in ODP are qualified, I also am pissed off that we paid around $2000 extra bucks going through the state program to get to the same place when she probably would have been picked anyway. Maybe they need to go to a regional tryout and not make it mandatory to do the state ODP.

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How did the '98 Rush girl make the hold over camp if she didn't go to the regional camp? She didn't make the hold over camp last year so that can't be the reasoning.

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New procedure = bad precedent

I can't think of a better way to destroy the credibility of the ODP process than to allow players into the regional and or holdover camps without going through the tryout process.

I understand that they are trying to put the best team together but if you are going to select players without a tryout the tryout process needs to stop as it is expensive and time consuming.

It's absurd to think you can actually select players who you are unable to stack up against players who ARE in the tryout process and know that you have chosen the best player.

This stinks of politics and reputation over talent and is a disincentive for players to work hard and get better!

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Quite agree ...

I can't think of a better way to destroy the credibility of the ODP process than to allow players into the regional and or holdover camps without going through the tryout process.

I understand that they are trying to put the best team together but if you are going to select players without a tryout the tryout process needs to stop as it is expensive and time consuming.

It's absurd to think you can actually select players who you are unable to stack up against players who ARE in the tryout process and know that you have chosen the best player.

This stinks of politics and reputation over talent and is a disincentive for players to work hard and get better!

This has occurred before, but probably not to the extent of the years' group. When my DD went to holdover camp, she quickly learned that the non-Regional camp girls were the liability on the team as they were living on reputation and not actual performance. Some one commented about how, once you achieve the holdover/regional team status, you have to be pretty awful to get replaced. Always irritated the real players when these girls were selected not based on performance. So, the best team may well not be represented. I do know that some of these non-Regional camp players have done little once they hit college play. It was obvious to the players but not to the coaches.

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I can't think of a better way to destroy the credibility of the ODP process than to allow players into the regional and or holdover camps without going through the tryout process.

I understand that they are trying to put the best team together but if you are going to select players without a tryout the tryout process needs to stop as it is expensive and time consuming.

It's absurd to think you can actually select players who you are unable to stack up against players who ARE in the tryout process and know that you have chosen the best player.

This stinks of politics and reputation over talent and is a disincentive for players to work hard and get better!

Exactly! On the boys side, So Cal and WA teams were "absent" at the 97-99 age groups. It really takes away the thrill of getting chosen after someone says, "Oh, it's because So Cal and WA weren't there!" I will have to see how many So Cal/WA teams make the final 18 when the roster is released. I just may not have my child attend regional camp in the future if that's the case. To spend all that money for what????

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Exactly! On the boys side, So Cal and WA teams were "absent" at the 97-99 age groups. It really takes away the thrill of getting chosen after someone says, "Oh, it's because So Cal and WA weren't there!" I will have to see how many So Cal/WA teams make the final 18 when the roster is released. I just may not have my child attend regional camp in the future if that's the case. To spend all that money for what????

So you can brag about it and get about a 25 cents on the dollar return in athletic scholarship money. That's the very best part!

Don't worry, the Timbers are selecting the DA in just the same way. Lot's of special tryouts due to "unavailability" and "injury."

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Annnnnnd that's not all!

After talking to the 95's & 96's many were not allowed to play their strongest position which resulted in girls with lesser talents up front getting selected to hold over. So we send our ladies up North expecting a fair and unbiased evaluation and we get the cluster that passed for the "Regional Camp" this year.

Need proof there is one player headed to a Pac 12 school as a forward that never touched the ball up front. Ohhh yeah they really know how to evaluate talent those 2012 ODP coaches.

I predict a dramatic drop off in ODP participation next season and or a drop in talent as the real players are not going to waste their time and money even if it is a little cheaper with the Timbers involved!

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After talking to the 95's & 96's many were not allowed to play their strongest position which resulted in girls with lesser talents up front getting selected to hold over. So we send our ladies up North expecting a fair and unbiased evaluation and we get the cluster that passed for the "Regional Camp" this year.

Need proof there is one player headed to a Pac 12 school as a forward that never touched the ball up front. Ohhh yeah they really know how to evaluate talent those 2012 ODP coaches.

I predict a dramatic drop off in ODP participation next season and or a drop in talent as the real players are not going to waste their time and money even if it is a little cheaper with the Timbers involved!

And it's not even cheaper!