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    Vancouver Timbers to OPL

    It appears the Portland Timbers would like the Vancouver Timbers to compete in the OPL next year and in the future. They even want the Vancouver teams to compete in the OPL cup/state cup. Makes sense since they represent the Portland MLS team, but the OPL has a rule that teams new to the OPL must start in Div 1 at the highest and work up to OPL premier. My question is: Do you think the OPL should allow the Vancouver Timbers teams that were very competitive in RCL Div 1 to go straight to OPL premier? Why or why not?

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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    It appears the Portland Timbers would like the Vancouver Timbers to compete in the OPL next year and in the future. They even want the Vancouver teams to compete in the OPL cup/state cup. Makes sense since they represent the Portland MLS team, but the OPL has a rule that teams new to the OPL must start in Div 1 at the highest and work up to OPL premier. My question is: Do you think the OPL should allow the Vancouver Timbers teams that were very competitive in RCL Div 1 to go straight to OPL premier? Why or why not?
    If a team is "very competitive" in RCL1, why would they move to OPL Premier? If you want to be the best you have to play the best...

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      If a team is "very competitive" in RCL1, why would they move to OPL Premier? If you want to be the best you have to play the best...
      That way they too can claim to be the Best in the State, even if it's not their home state.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        If a team is "very competitive" in RCL1, why would they move to OPL Premier? If you want to be the best you have to play the best...
        as the original poster stated, the Portland Timbers would like them to. Vancouver Timbers RCL Div 1 teams would not be happy being forced to play Div 1 in Oregon.....

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          If a team is "very competitive" in RCL1, why would they move to OPL Premier? If you want to be the best you have to play the best...
          PDX Timbers are putting pressure an the Vancouver Timbers to play. Seems affiliation has its disadvantages.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            PDX Timbers are putting pressure an the Vancouver Timbers to play. Seems affiliation has its disadvantages.
            Sure why not ??

            Timbers become the State Office for US Club in Oregon. They get this newly joined group of 4000 players to all register with US Club, whereby they collect and keep $2-3 per kid by registering them thru the Oregon office, along with every other player in Oregon that is playing OPL/US Club.

            Then they "encourage" the VUSA Timbers to play in the OPL by offering them "premier status" to all their teams, circumventing the other clubs that want to join and again lining the pockets of the OPL a lil deeper (which of course VUSA is not a member of).....wonder how thats gonna settle in ?

            They might call it strengthening their league, but I call it manipulation of their association and lining of their pockets by affiliation.

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              My question is ...

              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              Sure why not ??

              Timbers become the State Office for US Club in Oregon. They get this newly joined group of 4000 players to all register with US Club, whereby they collect and keep $2-3 per kid by registering them thru the Oregon office, along with every other player in Oregon that is playing OPL/US Club.

              Then they "encourage" the VUSA Timbers to play in the OPL by offering them "premier status" to all their teams, circumventing the other clubs that want to join and again lining the pockets of the OPL a lil deeper (which of course VUSA is not a member of).....wonder how thats gonna settle in ?

              They might call it strengthening their league, but I call it manipulation of their association and lining of their pockets by affiliation.
              With the move to the timbers, is it OPL's pockets being lined (bad enough) or is it all going to Gavin? Just one more part of this that smells bad...so somebody is being paid 8-12,000 by us club to move players there.

              Please at least make some attempt to pretend it is about the kids, not lining the pockets of those among the decisions with kickbacks etc.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Sure why not ??

                Timbers become the State Office for US Club in Oregon. They get this newly joined group of 4000 players to all register with US Club, whereby they collect and keep $2-3 per kid by registering them thru the Oregon office, along with every other player in Oregon that is playing OPL/US Club.

                Then they "encourage" the VUSA Timbers to play in the OPL by offering them "premier status" to all their teams, circumventing the other clubs that want to join and again lining the pockets of the OPL a lil deeper (which of course VUSA is not a member of).....wonder how thats gonna settle in ?

                They might call it strengthening their league, but I call it manipulation of their association and lining of their pockets by affiliation.
                They are not offering us "premier status", they are offering us Div 1.

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                  #9
                  GU17 to GU18

                  With the merger of FC Will and EMFC the GU18 team should be very competitive. If EMFC could get the three Eugene area player to come back down that would make them very good.

                  Both OSSA and FC PDX will field strong team again next year. That leave ESUFC and THUSC as the possible question marks. Will ESUFC field a team? Will THUSC continue to lose players and remain competitive?

                  Bring the Timbers GU18 to the OPL and give them premier status.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    They are not offering us "premier status", they are offering us Div 1.
                    I thought one of the selling points of OPL was that the council or "those in the know" would assess the quality of the teams and put them in the right divisions. That's why the qualifying tournaments were such a waste of time and money. Am I getting that wrong?

                    Forcing Vancouver teams to start in Div. 1 makes no sense if they shouldn't be there. Likewise, putting a team in Premier just because it was in the top RCL division doesn't make sense either if they were in last place. Both decisions require a little judgment. Most, if not all, of the teams play or have played common opponents in leagues and tournaments. It's not that hard to figure out. It really shouldn't be that hard for the people who told us all that they knew everything.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      It appears the Portland Timbers would like the Vancouver Timbers to compete in the OPL next year and in the future. They even want the Vancouver teams to compete in the OPL cup/state cup. Makes sense since they represent the Portland MLS team, but the OPL has a rule that teams new to the OPL must start in Div 1 at the highest and work up to OPL premier. My question is: Do you think the OPL should allow the Vancouver Timbers teams that were very competitive in RCL Div 1 to go straight to OPL premier? Why or why not?
                      Is this "like" of the Portland Timbers actually written in the Alliance agreement? Who exactly at PTFC has expressed this "like"?

                      This exact question was asked at a VUSA teams meeting in March and answered by both David Hughes and Sunny as "Teams will compete in RCL, OPL or PML as best fits team’s abilities. DOC’s decide where each team plays, we take in all factors (competition, age, quality of team potentially, etc..)"

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        They are not offering us "premier status", they are offering us Div 1.
                        What division did your team play in RCL?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          With the merger of FC Will and EMFC the GU18 team should be very competitive. If EMFC could get the three Eugene area player to come back down that would make them very good.

                          Both OSSA and FC PDX will field strong team again next year. That leave ESUFC and THUSC as the possible question marks. Will ESUFC field a team? Will THUSC continue to lose players and remain competitive?

                          Bring the Timbers GU18 to the OPL and give them premier status.
                          I can't imagine the GU18 Reds moving to anything other than OPL Premier, if they're looking to move at all. They were 5th in the fall RCL1 league and finalists in the State Cup at U17. OPL Division 1 would seem to be a bad fit for this team.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            I can't imagine the GU18 Reds moving to anything other than OPL Premier, if they're looking to move at all. They were 5th in the fall RCL1 league and finalists in the State Cup at U17. OPL Division 1 would seem to be a bad fit for this team.
                            At U15 and above the OPL places teams in brackets based on history, DOC recommendation etc. Only at U11-14 do they do promotion/relegation

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                              #15
                              League, yes State Cup, no

                              They should not play in the State Cup. That's silly. As a minimum requirement, a team should be from the state where the cup is held.

                              As far as the league. I would love to see them come and play OPL. We need more good teams and this is a club with competitive teams. Let RCL 1 teams play in OPL Premier. Absolutely.

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