What is wrong with Oregon?

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I really want to know what is going on with Oregon. Why are teams doing two State Cups?

Why are the teams that are playing OYSA getting a free pass (playing garbage teams) to Regionals?

Is it out of control? Is it simply someones idea? Not enough teams or quality of teams?

I honestly want to know what is going on? Why the separation?

[Unregistered]

I really want to know what is going on with Oregon. Why are teams doing two State Cups?

Why are the teams that are playing OYSA getting a free pass (playing garbage teams) to Regionals?

Is it out of control? Is it simply someones idea? Not enough teams or quality of teams?

I honestly want to know what is going on? Why the separation?

Then read any of the million post on this site.

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Almost all of the competitive clubs left USYSA and went to US Club Soccer as the sanctioning body so they no longer compete in the USYSA tournament. Old tournament is still around even though most brackets only have two teams.

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Almost all of the competitive clubs left USYSA and went to US Club Soccer as the sanctioning body so they no longer compete in the USYSA tournament. Old tournament is still around even though most brackets only have two teams.

Or so OPL will tell you. Beware of there claims however. As they talk about how many teams they have at each level they will leave out the fact that many OPC clubs put their A,B, and C teams into the tournament. Great way to swell numbers, but it doesntdomich for the level of competition.

Now my view of the same reality. OPL was created to serve the limited interest of Portland based clubs. Over two years they have realized that they need competition from outside the Portland Metro area.

It has been widely accepted that teams will make the decision of what league fits their needs, the desire coupled with that was to have a single State Cup to put forth the best champion.

This spring OYSA, the US Youth Soccer affiliate opened those doors. OPL went defensive, forbidding their member clubs teams from participating in anything but the OPL cup. Making statements such as attributed to Angela Harrison that all teams from all OPC clubs will be required to play OPL cup.

For teams that had regional ambitions this did not sit well, WSM separated from the group, allowing their teams to choose where to participate. WSM Galacticos and Premier will be the only OPL boys teams at far west regionals this year.

Who will represent well, who won't, is kind of a hard question. There are so many variables in competition. The only thing that can be said for certain is OPL cup teams, even the champions are done for the season. There is no next level.

Just a different perspective.

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Or so OPL will tell you. Beware of there claims however. As they talk about how many teams they have at each level they will leave out the fact that many OPC clubs put their A,B, and C teams into the tournament. Great way to swell numbers, but it doesntdomich for the level of competition.

Now my view of the same reality. OPL was created to serve the limited interest of Portland based clubs. Over two years they have realized that they need competition from outside the Portland Metro area.

It has been widely accepted that teams will make the decision of what league fits their needs, the desire coupled with that was to have a single State Cup to put forth the best champion.

This spring OYSA, the US Youth Soccer affiliate opened those doors. OPL went defensive, forbidding their member clubs teams from participating in anything but the OPL cup. Making statements such as attributed to Angela Harrison that all teams from all OPC clubs will be required to play OPL cup.

For teams that had regional ambitions this did not sit well, WSM separated from the group, allowing their teams to choose where to participate. WSM Galacticos and Premier will be the only OPL boys teams at far west regionals this year.

Who will represent well, who won't, is kind of a hard question. There are so many variables in competition. The only thing that can be said for certain is OPL cup teams, even the champions are done for the season. There is no next level.

Just a different perspective.

Good post, however I thought teams that won OPL state cup received free pass to us club nationals in Chicago. And teams that wanted to could compete in local us club regionals to try and make nationals. However you do not need to keep the same roster that won the opl state championship

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Or so OPL will tell you. Beware of there claims however. As they talk about how many teams they have at each level they will leave out the fact that many OPC clubs put their A,B, and C teams into the tournament. Great way to swell numbers, but it doesntdomich for the level of competition.

Now my view of the same reality. OPL was created to serve the limited interest of Portland based clubs. Over two years they have realized that they need competition from outside the Portland Metro area.

It has been widely accepted that teams will make the decision of what league fits their needs, the desire coupled with that was to have a single State Cup to put forth the best champion.

This spring OYSA, the US Youth Soccer affiliate opened those doors. OPL went defensive, forbidding their member clubs teams from participating in anything but the OPL cup. Making statements such as attributed to Angela Harrison that all teams from all OPC clubs will be required to play OPL cup.

For teams that had regional ambitions this did not sit well, WSM separated from the group, allowing their teams to choose where to participate. WSM Galacticos and Premier will be the only OPL boys teams at far west regionals this year.

Who will represent well, who won't, is kind of a hard question. There are so many variables in competition. The only thing that can be said for certain is OPL cup teams, even the champions are done for the season. There is no next level.

Just a different perspective.

A, B and C teams? REALLY?

Look at the results of both tourneys... some brackets at the OYSA didn't even have teams or two teams. Some brackets had a couple of rec teams. The OPL teams that 'broke' ranks (even though they weren't allowed to) pretty much dominated. You are spewing tired old rhetoric that even this newbee U11...now U12 parent can see through.

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A, B and C teams? REALLY?

Look at the results of both tourneys... some brackets at the OYSA didn't even have teams or two teams. Some brackets had a couple of rec teams. The OPL teams that 'broke' ranks (even though they weren't allowed to) pretty much dominated. You are spewing tired old rhetoric that even this newbee U11...now U12 parent can see through.

So let me get this straight. OPL is so much better that any of there teams would step foot on the field and dominate any OYSA team? So why didn't they? If they had participated numbers wouldn't have been an issue. With their incredible dominance it would have been like a free ticket to Phoenix for a real regional tournament. Now I understand that you have likely never had the opportunity to go to one of the regional tournaments. Because of that you probably find it difficult to filter through the claims that US Club regionals or Surf Cup are comparable. They aren't. Surf cup is a good tournament, but you don't have a national championship on the line. The winners of region IV become 1/4 teams vying for a true national championship. That is something special.

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Good post, however I thought teams that won OPL state cup received free pass to us club nationals in Chicago. And teams that wanted to could compete in local us club regionals to try and make nationals. However you do not need to keep the same roster that won the opl state championship

You are correct, I looked past this since us club regionals is an open registration tournament. Nothing other than money is necessary to qualify. In past years 2nd place teams from OYSA have gone to US club regionals.

I also feel like it adds some excitement to have the continuity of rosters. You play with what gets you there.

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Or so OPL will tell you. Beware of there claims however. As they talk about how many teams they have at each level they will leave out the fact that many OPC clubs put their A,B, and C teams into the tournament. Great way to swell numbers, but it doesntdomich for the level of competition.

Now my view of the same reality. OPL was created to serve the limited interest of Portland based clubs. Over two years they have realized that they need competition from outside the Portland Metro area.

It has been widely accepted that teams will make the decision of what league fits their needs, the desire coupled with that was to have a single State Cup to put forth the best champion.

This spring OYSA, the US Youth Soccer affiliate opened those doors. OPL went defensive, forbidding their member clubs teams from participating in anything but the OPL cup. Making statements such as attributed to Angela Harrison that all teams from all OPC clubs will be required to play OPL cup.

For teams that had regional ambitions this did not sit well, WSM separated from the group, allowing their teams to choose where to participate. WSM Galacticos and Premier will be the only OPL boys teams at far west regionals this year.

Who will represent well, who won't, is kind of a hard question. There are so many variables in competition. The only thing that can be said for certain is OPL cup teams, even the champions are done for the season. There is no next level.

Just a different perspective.

8 of 14 champs across boys and girls are OPL teams that chose to enter. Every OPL club team that entered won.

[John S]

Then read any of the million post on this site.

What the hell can you get from this site? NOTHING.
The garbage on here is beyond belief and just shows where the world (USA) is heading. This is just like the politics here. No balls!!!!

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8 of 14 champs across boys and girls are OPL teams that chose to enter. Every OPL club team that entered won.

Not the U16G. RV played OPL and Or Rush did not. There truly is no point in arguing which teams are best without going head to head and that opportunity truly wasn't presented. There is zero doubt that the Portland area teams are generally stronger because they have a larger populous to draw from. At the end of the day it won't matter because it will be your individual player who will have to carry it for themselves. To think that talent doesn't exist outside the OPL is naive. Enjoy this time and the best in soccer to you.

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Why opl

Why opl and not oysa. Oysa mandates you attend far west regionals. Oysa will tell you far west in the premier tournament. Not so anymore it is watered downed due to the DA and encl

Us club gives choices.

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Not the U16G. RV played OPL and Or Rush did not. There truly is no point in arguing which teams are best without going head to head and that opportunity truly wasn't presented. There is zero doubt that the Portland area teams are generally stronger because they have a larger populous to draw from. At the end of the day it won't matter because it will be your individual player who will have to carry it for themselves. To think that talent doesn't exist outside the OPL is naive. Enjoy this time and the best in soccer to you.

Missed the U15G Rush team, they played opl this year so I guess it was 9 of 14.

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Why opl and not oysa. Oysa mandates you attend far west regionals. Oysa will tell you far west in the premier tournament. Not so anymore it is watered downed due to the DA and encl

Us club gives choices.

So have you actually been to Far West Regionals, or have you just been told it is watered down? Have you been enough times to compare a few years ago to today?

My experiences multiple times at Far West Regionals is each year varies by the mix of teams, even with that every year is a great experience.

Comparing US club Regionals, or even nationals is a joke. If FWR's is watered down, it is even worse on the US club side.

Yes there are some good premier level tournaments like Dallas Cup, Surf Cup, etc...My experience however has been that the teams that do well in these tournaments also are at FWR.

This may be difficult to conceptualize, but outside of Oregon no-one cares about OPL/OYSA. They have their own structures, there are several Dev Academies that bring their teams.

It is interesting you are so set on not going, when you are not qualified to go. It is kind of like telling someone you would never want to be president of your company, when you are working in the mailroom. It is awfully cheap to say you don't want something, when you can't have it.

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8 of 14 champs across boys and girls are OPL teams that chose to enter. Every OPL club team that entered won.

So what is your point? This has become part of the OPL propaganda spew, but what does it really mean?

Some possible understandings
- All the OPL teams that entered won, this proves we are better because our best teams chose to play somewhere else

-57% of champions were OPL, 43% were OYSA.
On the Boys side 2/7 titles were won by OPL (Westside) CFC won 3/7
On the girls side OPL won 5/7 titles 2 for Westside, and 1 each for WUSC, Sherwood and THUSC. Oregon Rush tied Westside with 2 wins also.

So what is your point. If OPL is able to glide in and snatch victory with such ease, why aren't more teams doing it? Why is Command Central at OPC so concerned about participating in the OYSA state cup that they made public announcements opposed to it.