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    Just thoughts, it seems as if fcsc's commitment to there teams has deminished except for the girls u11. If you go to the web page there are stories are about joe, Tina and a u11 girls team. Is this because it's joes daughter and granddaughter are there? What about all the other teams? I suggest you pull it till you can put something up about several teams. If joes not careful he's is going to keep losing players and coaches and there will be no more FCSC. You can not even get anyone from the club to respond to you. FCSC is going down hill, quick. This is a shame because they have and have had a lot of talent there. Joe you better start thinking about all the teams or there will be none. I know I am questioning my commitment to FCSC now.

    #2
    relax

    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Just thoughts, it seems as if fcsc's commitment to there teams has deminished except for the girls u11. If you go to the web page there are stories are about joe, Tina and a u11 girls team. Is this because it's joes daughter and granddaughter are there? What about all the other teams? I suggest you pull it till you can put something up about several teams. If joes not careful he's is going to keep losing players and coaches and there will be no more FCSC. You can not even get anyone from the club to respond to you. FCSC is going down hill, quick. This is a shame because they have and have had a lot of talent there. Joe you better start thinking about all the teams or there will be none. I know I am questioning my commitment to FCSC now.
    Relax, I don't think FCSC is the problem. I think Victor getting fired from Salmon Creek was the best thing to wipe the slate clean. They have some good players there at U-11 and as long as they start with that and move on they will be ok.

    Victor's teams always end up dismantling because of who is as a coach. WSA hiring him is a joke and I would be surprised post merger if they don't can him. Gary is already a joke to everyone for hiring him. Some DOC.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Relax, I don't think FCSC is the problem. I think Victor getting fired from Salmon Creek was the best thing to wipe the slate clean. They have some good players there at U-11 and as long as they start with that and move on they will be ok.

      Victor's teams always end up dismantling because of who is as a coach. WSA hiring him is a joke and I would be surprised post merger if they don't can him. Gary is already a joke to everyone for hiring him. Some DOC.
      This is to much. SC highlighting their u11 team and not another team at the club is Victors fault. Also wsa's doc being brought into it. Shifting blame is not good.

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        #4
        Nothing to do with victor

        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Relax, I don't think FCSC is the problem. I think Victor getting fired from Salmon Creek was the best thing to wipe the slate clean. They have some good players there at U-11 and as long as they start with that and move on they will be ok.

        Victor's teams always end up dismantling because of who is as a coach. WSA hiring him is a joke and I would be surprised post merger if they don't can him. Gary is already a joke to everyone for hiring him. Some DOC.
        This has nothing to do with victor. This is the steady dimise of a club. Joe better get his crap together. There better be some tallet at these kick arounds or people are going to walk. There better be some improvements made to this club and not just lip service. I would start with promoting the club as a whole and not just his daughters and granddaughters teams. There is a whole club of teams and he should be highlighting all of them to make the club look better and show that there is a lot of talent there. The club has to grow, or it wil be eaten by the bigger fish. We all know that a few players one way or another can make or brake a team, and we need to attract more talent to help with the existing talent already there. The rec and select will follow, when FCSC can show force vs all clubs. just saying you have to keep what you have. Look at that whole 99 team, the whole team, gone. Not to 1 club but scattered, never comming back, none of them. Now rumors of the 98's, I hear several key players, thinking of a change. Is there even a u14 premier team? U15 I hear some them are looking at options. What's going to be left. The players at the premier level want to play the top tournaments, college showcases, mustang, surf, nwcl, etc, etc. the way FCSC is headed they will not have the players or commitment to play these venues. So really is FCSC doing these kids any justice in keeping them there when it could really make it hard for them in the future. My question to FCSC is what is the plan for the premier teams at u14 and higher when everyone else is playing the big venues and FCSC is playing state cups, nwcl, etc, etc. would it not be better to get the talent in one place a have them play together. The way things look, the VUSA/WSA merger is a good start. Why would FCSC not work on the select/rec front and push the premier over to the new merger club? do what's right for the kids, have some ethics, It should not be about the money. FCSC knows what's right, if they feel that they can do right by the kids at this level, then show it. The premier teams should have the best talent and coaches at all ages and attend the top tournaments, both local and out of the area.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          This is to much. SC highlighting their u11 team and not another team at the club is Victors fault. Also wsa's doc being brought into it. Shifting blame is not good.
          I was thinking the same thing.
          The person who is posting this crap has a personal vendetta against Victor and attributes all that is wrong in his world to Victor. It would be funny if it wern't so pathetic. There is so much crap being flung I'm starting to believe that this Victor character is probably no where as bad as what is being said here. The anti-Victor sentiment is starting to backfire on these folks. FREE VICTOR!

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            #6
            Hahahahahaha

            Yes, that's it, FREE VICTOR!!!!!!!
            Should start a new thread, lol........

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              #7
              OH GOd

              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              I was thinking the same thing.
              The person who is posting this crap has a personal vendetta against Victor and attributes all that is wrong in his world to Victor. It would be funny if it wern't so pathetic. There is so much crap being flung I'm starting to believe that this Victor character is probably no where as bad as what is being said here. The anti-Victor sentiment is starting to backfire on these folks. FREE VICTOR!
              Please tell us who you are. I really, really, want to know. I really hope your kid is on his team or better yet, please take your kid to play for him. Either you are incredibly stupid or your ethics and morals are something that your kid will suffer for in the future.

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                #8
                I was thinking the same thing

                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I was thinking the same thing.
                The person who is posting this crap has a personal vendetta against Victor and attributes all that is wrong in his world to Victor. It would be funny if it wern't so pathetic. There is so much crap being flung I'm starting to believe that this Victor character is probably no where as bad as what is being said here. The anti-Victor sentiment is starting to backfire on these folks. FREE VICTOR!
                Either this guy has a kid on his team and its too late to leave because noone wants to take the idiot or low moral parents from that team.

                IF NOT. I challenge him to take his kid over to that team..........HE WON'T. What a retard. I can't believe you posted that.

                It's like someone saying the FC Portland Coach Wasn't THAT BAD...

                You are a joke guy or gal.

                Seriously

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                  #9
                  Who Cares ?

                  If you dont like any of it, just move away.

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                    #10
                    The topic is appropriate as the stories from that club are all similar. The approach SC is taking to make its club desirable is to highlight the one desirable thing they have Tina. Unfortunately the down fall to this is that she can't be everywhere and do everything. They have to start showing care for the other teams at the club...cricket...cricket....cricket....

                    While Victor may not be in most peoples viewpoints on the up and up to blame the initial post on him ruins the credibility of the responder as they took the opportunity only to bash him, again.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      This has nothing to do with victor. This is the steady dimise of a club. Joe better get his crap together. There better be some tallet at these kick arounds or people are going to walk. There better be some improvements made to this club and not just lip service. I would start with promoting the club as a whole and not just his daughters and granddaughters teams. There is a whole club of teams and he should be highlighting all of them to make the club look better and show that there is a lot of talent there. The club has to grow, or it wil be eaten by the bigger fish. We all know that a few players one way or another can make or brake a team, and we need to attract more talent to help with the existing talent already there. The rec and select will follow, when FCSC can show force vs all clubs. just saying you have to keep what you have. Look at that whole 99 team, the whole team, gone. Not to 1 club but scattered, never comming back, none of them. Now rumors of the 98's, I hear several key players, thinking of a change. Is there even a u14 premier team? U15 I hear some them are looking at options. What's going to be left. The players at the premier level want to play the top tournaments, college showcases, mustang, surf, nwcl, etc, etc. the way FCSC is headed they will not have the players or commitment to play these venues. So really is FCSC doing these kids any justice in keeping them there when it could really make it hard for them in the future. My question to FCSC is what is the plan for the premier teams at u14 and higher when everyone else is playing the big venues and FCSC is playing state cups, nwcl, etc, etc. would it not be better to get the talent in one place a have them play together. The way things look, the VUSA/WSA merger is a good start. Why would FCSC not work on the select/rec front and push the premier over to the new merger club? do what's right for the kids, have some ethics, It should not be about the money. FCSC knows what's right, if they feel that they can do right by the kids at this level, then show it. The premier teams should have the best talent and coaches at all ages and attend the top tournaments, both local and out of the area.
                      You can throw out all the I heard this and I heard that, but bottom line is that you know nothing. So what is you're point other than trying to discredit a club that you have nothing to do with? This club isn't apart of your life and has no bearing on what your child does. So again...what's really your point?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        The topic is appropriate as the stories from that club are all similar. The approach SC is taking to make its club desirable is to highlight the one desirable thing they have Tina. Unfortunately the down fall to this is that she can't be everywhere and do everything. They have to start showing care for the other teams at the club...cricket...cricket....cricket....

                        While Victor may not be in most peoples viewpoints on the up and up to blame the initial post on him ruins the credibility of the responder as they took the opportunity only to bash him, again.
                        How often do you visit the SC Site? Not very...the articles change periodically. So funny...Here's the deal haters...you can say whatever nonsense you want and call it fact, but SC is stronger than what you want to believe. They will never leave. So continue the hate, but it won't change anything. Victor's departure has brought unity to the club and you'll see that SC will have highly competitive premier teams at all ages, especially at the U10-U14 age groups including the '99 age group.

                        This Thread "Questioning FCSC's Committment" is spearheaded by the same former FCSC 99 parent trying to justify his case on a soccer forum. Good Luck to your daughter, she's an amazing kid, but you sir are unbelievable. You will be the demise of your kids soccer future...and who will you blame? Oh that's right the Club's fault.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          You can throw out all the I heard this and I heard that, but bottom line is that you know nothing. So what is you're point other than trying to discredit a club that you have nothing to do with? This club isn't apart of your life and has no bearing on what your child does. So again...what's really your point?
                          there point is....we left the club to follow a 11 year old child biting, girlfriend beating, drug dealing, human resource problem coach....and we are proud of it.

                          parents of Victors team....by following this man you have become part of the problem...
                          morals and integrity when coming to children especially are more important than winning...
                          if you think by staying with him you are making the right decision you are mistaken...

                          if and when you decide to move you will be labeled "that parent" that stayed with him....

                          who the hell rolls around with players on the ground? Let alone bites them?

                          *** ARE YOU PARENTS THINKING?

                          EVERY PARENT THAT HAS CHOSEN TO STAY WITH HIM IS JUST AS MUCH AT FAULT AS HIM!

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                            #14
                            Stop already

                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Please tell us who you are. I really, really, want to know. I really hope your kid is on his team or better yet, please take your kid to play for him. Either you are incredibly stupid or your ethics and morals are something that your kid will suffer for in the future.
                            All that I'll tell you is that I am a VUSA parent and I am sick and tired of your non-stop bashing of Victor. I'm not a Victor fan. My daughter will not play for him ever. That is my choice and not influenced one bit by your ranting. Your constant spew is honestly making it hard to believe you. I'm not as much rooting for Victor as against you. The FREE VICTOR comment was said in jest but if you keep up this non-stop anti-Victor crusade I might just print up some bumper stickers to piss you off!
                            Your point has been made, your opinion expressed .... WE GET IT! We're tired of your one-man campaign ... Please move on to something else.

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                              #15
                              I gotta bridge for sale

                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              there point is....we left the club to follow a 11 year old child biting, girlfriend beating, drug dealing, human resource problem coach....and we are proud of it.

                              parents of Victors team....by following this man you have become part of the problem...
                              morals and integrity when coming to children especially are more important than winning...
                              if you think by staying with him you are making the right decision you are mistaken...

                              if and when you decide to move you will be labeled "that parent" that stayed with him....

                              who the hell rolls around with players on the ground? Let alone bites them?

                              *** ARE YOU PARENTS THINKING?

                              EVERY PARENT THAT HAS CHOSEN TO STAY WITH HIM IS JUST AS MUCH AT FAULT AS HIM!
                              ----- > and I bet you voted for Obama too

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