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Wrong way of looking at it. You have to look at the city and the pool that the city offers since ECNL will attract a large population of players from outside of the affilicated club. Also, the girls on the affiliated club will have their spots up for grabs as there will be no grandfathering of positions. The ECNL national map will not want Vancouver listed. Instead, they will go with a Portland club and Vancouver players will likely venture over to tryout for the team. -
Heck, Aloha Youth Rec. has 1500 kids now.... maybe they can get ENCL......Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Did you see this one? It took me doing some searching to find it. Amazing that if this is the plan they don't tell us.... LOL:Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Szpara Named Head Coach for Portland Rain
PORTLAND, Ore. —
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About the Rain
Portland Rain Women's Soccer is a vertically integrated soccer program exclusively for the female athlete. The Rain organizational structure provides players from the age of 12 opportunities to develop as people and soccer players. The Rain's partnership with the OYSA Olympic Development Program is the first of its kind in the United States. Players within the Rain system can play for the Rain/OYSA Olympic Development Program, Rain U19, Rain U23 and the full Rain team that currently participates in the Women's Premier Soccer League (WPSL). The WPSL is the largest women's league in the world. Portland Rain Women's Soccer will also provide camp opportunities for girl's throughout the year.
About WPSL
The WPSL is a 50-plus team national pro-am league with five conferences starting in 2010 and is the largest women's soccer league in the world. The league is sanctioned by the United States Adult Soccer Association (USASA) as an affiliate of the United States Soccer Federation (USSF). The WPSL's mission is to provide the highest level of soccer in our effort to: bring affordable & quality family entertainment to the community; display positive role models for our youth; while, being a stepping stone for aspiring professional & international-level players.Comment
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I believe this is last year. The Portland team isn't listed as being part of the WPSL this year. Eugene and Issaquah added teams to go with Bend (OR Rush) and Spokane, and it certainly makes sense to have PDX, but I don't believe it's been set up for this year.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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I noticed that it isn't listed too. Even so, the older age ODP girls have definitely been invited to tryouts this Sunday. It is strange that there is no info about it. It is too bad that they are not giving more information if the intent is to work with ODP.Comment
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New Partnership
The Portland Rain Women's Soccer team are excited to announce a new partnership with The Portland Timbers! This team will be a nonprofit enterprise with a $50 tryout fee, or $35 for current students. The new Portland Rain Timbers will play in the WPSL and compete in the NW Division. The season goes from May til July and the team will practice a couple of times a week in the Portland area.
The Portland Timbers will help sponsor the team, which will be outfitted in Portland Timbers Alliance Club uniforms. Each player will sign a Player Expectations document and will submit a small performance bond, to be returned upon fulfillment of the schedule. The team this year will be funded with the support of The Timbers, sponsors and donations that are tax deductible.
Tryouts for the Portland Rain Timbers Women's 2012 team will be May 6th from 1:00-4:00 pm and held at Clackamas Community College soccer field, inside the track. The address is 19600 S Molalla Ave., Oregon City, Or. Please register through the Portland Timbers website at
https://www.secure-sam.com/registrat...n/reg_list.php
If you have any questions regarding the team or tryouts, or would like to donate, please contact Janine Szpara at 503-522-4932 or email at neen13@comcast.net . If you have any information regarding a potential jersey sponsor for the team, please contact Mike Smith at msmith@portlandtimbers.com .Comment
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So I guess being part of the Timbers Alliance will become an advantage for girls too, not just the boys. Sorry non-alliance teams, I think you will slowly fall behind. It may not happen quickly but the writing is on the wall. The Portland Timbers is Oregon's team and anything they are backing is where you want your kid to be. Eventually.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Yes, completely agree. The Timbers Alliance teams are on the inside. The others on the outside looking in.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Yeah, because that is exactly what's happened in other cities with MLS teams. Sorry, doin just fine on our non alliance team and won't ever change.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Please stop pretending to be multiple people. Agreeing with yourself isn't helping anyone.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Girls from the non-Alliance clubs will have a huge advantage if they choose to try out for the Rain. They will actually be developed and ready for the try-outs.They'll experience soccer outside of Oregon and be able to compete. FC, OSSA, and THUSC will send many girls there if the girls choose to go. If Janine is still the head coach she won't care what club they played for. She will choose the best and not get caught up in the drama of it all. I can't imagine anyone with a daughter actually thinking that going to WSM or ESU will help their daughter get on the Rain.
Just another desperate attempt by a WSM parent. I'd even go as far as to say a parent of a boy. Gotta pad that scholarship fund!!Comment
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I agree that the best players will be chosen for the Rain. I disagree that non-alliance clubs will be better developed. The alliance clubs will have just as many opportunities to develop plus they will have access to the Timbers resources to help them develop. And I'm sorry but if you have 2 girls that show up to tryouts and they are a virtual toss-up, the likeliness of going with the girl that they know and have heard about within the alliance is high. The kid that they have invested in within the alliance will have an advantage. I am not trying to be rude. These are common sense thoughts. Now, of course, if a girl from a non-alliance club comes in and is clearly better, she's in. It's the ones that are neck and neck that will be at a disadvantage. And that will happen a lot, for better or for worse.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Not to mention that if this "non-alliance" player is clearly better and makes the Girls DA I would bet that the coaching staff will be recruiting her to play within the timbers alliance. Coaches outside of the alliance are going to struggle with keeping their best players.....one by one they will be picked by the Timbers RTC and once a week in training will be in the girls ear giving advice on where to play.....its inevitable.....and you can't stop itOriginally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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If there were truly that many outstanding players in Oregon then I would agree. If you take 3 age groups and pull the highest level players off the pool then you might have one stellar team. Look at ODP. There are the superstars and then there are the masses.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
I think the Rain is a great opportunity for these girls. Oh, and they are affiliated with ODP so all of you ODP haters what now???Comment
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wsm coach here: I don't understand why everyone on here has to have a scarcity mentality. I'm very pleased to hear the Portland Rain is coming back, which gives the girls more opportunities to play throughout the summer, especially college players (I'm assuming it's for that age group). If Thusc got the ECNL bid, I would have supported that also. Again, for me, it's all about offering our girls the most competitive, highest level of competition.
If the Timbers eventually offer a DA type opportunity for the girls we should applaud this. This may not affect the current U15 and up age groups; not sure. This may only affect the younger groups like the current U14's and 13's. But if it's there I'm going to assume most of the competitive, serious players will tryout and more than likely accept a spot if offered.
I totally understand why other clubs outside the alliance teams will resist this because of not wanting to lose their top players. But I think if we truly want to develop our top tier players, they need to be on these teams. If I had a daughter, that I felt is a top tier player, I would want her to be with other players of the same caliber, in a competitive environment, training weekly with those players, and obviously playing in top tournaments. That's where they are going to develop both mentally and physically (we all know how the game is totally different in SoCal).Comment
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