There are going to be alot of p!ssed off parents here soon!

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Sorry if your skin is so thin. I call BS when I see it.

So let me get this right...anything beyond the scope of your tiny brains comprehension is BS? Does the above show how you communicate with people in person, or is it just when you hide behind your anonymous mask?

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yes

So let me get this right...anything beyond the scope of your tiny brains comprehension is BS? Does the above show how you communicate with people in person, or is it just when you hide behind your anonymous mask?

To both questions.

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What about the bench

There was a lot of hype about this first OSSA team, but I had my doubts about their potential "dominate status" as we knew a ton of kids over there that moved on to other things. And although they have probably the most athletic bunch they are missing the skilled technical players.

Hmmm......could it be that this is one of those examples of a coaching FAIL?

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You Really Have No Clue ... and here I thought I might learn something.

So let me get this right...anything beyond the scope of your tiny brains comprehension is BS? Does the above show how you communicate with people in person, or is it just when you hide behind your anonymous mask?

So let me get this right...
You come on here suggesting FIFA regulations limit the Timbers ability to affiliate with youth soccer clubs and when asked to support your position you babble endlessly yet offer no proof whatsoever. Actually buried in your blather you backtrack somewhat, ""What I am not sure of is how this applies to MLS. ... The complicator with MLS is the league owns all of the players." Hmmm ... maybe you really don't know what you're talking about?
Only after you sarcastically suggest simplifying things to a nursery rhyme do I enthusiatically and colorfully point out that if you can't provide support for your position it's nothing more than your "worthless opinion".
After insults both ways your feelings are hurt. Awwwwwh...

This would almost be funny to me but I'm thinking you're such a sensitive individual lacking in self confidence that I'm starting to feel sorry for you. Maybe I should apologize for hurting your child like feelings. Crap, your ego is so fragile I wouldn't want to be the cause of you never posting on this forum again!
Get over yourself and grow up.

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Connect the dots...

So let me get this right...
You come on here suggesting FIFA regulations limit the Timbers ability to affiliate with youth soccer clubs and when asked to support your position you babble endlessly yet offer no proof whatsoever. Actually buried in your blather you backtrack somewhat, ""What I am not sure of is how this applies to MLS. ... The complicator with MLS is the league owns all of the players." Hmmm ... maybe you really don't know what you're talking about?
Only after you sarcastically suggest simplifying things to a nursery rhyme do I enthusiatically and colorfully point out that if you can't provide support for your position it's nothing more than your "worthless opinion".
After insults both ways your feelings are hurt. Awwwwwh...

This would almost be funny to me but I'm thinking you're such a sensitive individual lacking in self confidence that I'm starting to feel sorry for you. Maybe I should apologize for hurting your child like feelings. Crap, your ego is so fragile I wouldn't want to be the cause of you never posting on this forum again!
Get over yourself and grow up.

You are correct it is a confusing situation, thus everyone of my posts. I think if you compare the tones of our offerings you are not coming across nearly as reasonable as you seem to believe. You don't need to worry about hurting my feelings, I try not to punctuate every sentence with the type of language you seem to love.

Now I will try to help you understand the concept you so clearly have not grasped.

A major way soccer clubs make money is the development for transfer of young players. In exchange for not charging them a fee to play they receive what amounts to an ownership interest in the player.

Where I mentioned confusion is that in most countries in the world this ownership is at the club level. In MLS this ownership is at the league level. MLS has stated the clear objective of developing players for international transfer.

My original comment was that the Timbers will need to be careful in affiliating too closely to a "for fee" club. They will need define the line when a player crosses from the affiliate club to them very clearly. For sake of clarity I would expect a rigid divide on staff, and not bringing or appearing to bring player preferences from one level to the next.

My point has always been that the two clubs will likely try to market this relationship as much stronger than it may in fact be.

In the words of Chuckie D "don't believe the hype".

I will finish and look forward to your response with language to put a sailor to shame.

Heres a challenge, say it without profanity. Remember "Profanity is the refuge of the weak mind"

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You are correct it is a confusing situation, thus everyone of my posts. I think if you compare the tones of our offerings you are not coming across nearly as reasonable as you seem to believe. You don't need to worry about hurting my feelings, I try not to punctuate every sentence with the type of language you seem to love.

Now I will try to help you understand the concept you so clearly have not grasped.

A major way soccer clubs make money is the development for transfer of young players. In exchange for not charging them a fee to play they receive what amounts to an ownership interest in the player.

Where I mentioned confusion is that in most countries in the world this ownership is at the club level. In MLS this ownership is at the league level. MLS has stated the clear objective of developing players for international transfer.

My original comment was that the Timbers will need to be careful in affiliating too closely to a "for fee" club. They will need define the line when a player crosses from the affiliate club to them very clearly. For sake of clarity I would expect a rigid divide on staff, and not bringing or appearing to bring player preferences from one level to the next.

My point has always been that the two clubs will likely try to market this relationship as much stronger than it may in fact be.

In the words of Chuckie D "don't believe the hype".

I will finish and look forward to your response with language to put a sailor to shame.

Heres a challenge, say it without profanity. Remember "Profanity is the refuge of the weak mind"

I enjoy this. You are full of yourself and that's ok. A little thinned skinned as I mentioned b4. I'll try not to use profanity since it bothers you so much.
I have understood your arguement from the beginning. You keep repeating it for some reason? The question STILL remains have you done the due diligence to see how this applies to the MLS and Timbers specifically or are you making blind assumptions?
I have not seen any direct references other than your opinion. Thus all I can conclude is since you keep repeating the same opinion you are guessing. Pretty simple YOU DON'T KNOW.
That's all. That's it. You answered it. You don't know. It's all good. We can move on. .... and not one bad word for ya!
Let's get back on topic. Unless of course you want to do some research and present facts. That would be worthwhile and something we could all appreciate.

Oh wait. The topic was pissed off parents .... oh nevermind.

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I enjoy this. You are full of yourself and that's ok. A little thinned skinned as I mentioned b4. I'll try not to use profanity since it bothers you so much.
I have understood your arguement from the beginning. You keep repeating it for some reason? The question STILL remains have you done the due diligence to see how this applies to the MLS and Timbers specifically or are you making blind assumptions?
I have not seen any direct references other than your opinion. Thus all I can conclude is since you keep repeating the same opinion you are guessing. Pretty simple YOU DON'T KNOW.
That's all. That's it. You answered it. You don't know. It's all good. We can move on. .... and not one bad word for ya!
Let's get back on topic. Unless of course you want to do some research and present facts. That would be worthwhile and something we could all appreciate.

Oh wait. The topic was pissed off parents .... oh nevermind.

Congratulations on not cursing, excellent job. You claim to understand, and yet you miss the observation that I am asking all of this as a question. It does not seem likely that anyone knows all the facts of this situation, there are just a lot of swirling rumors. If you felt I presented my statements as factual statements about what will happen in regard to the Timbers, I apologize for not being clearer. I am trying to understand the situation as it may play out. I am looking at the initial information suggested, and then comparing my experience to decide if it seems rational or not.

Clearly you disagree with me; so do you disagree with my interpretation of FIFA law, do you disagree a out the Timbers and MLS being subject these laws, or do you disagree because your dream is for ES and WS to ascend to this high level of superiority? Over and over you complain about my comments, so what is your stick in the fire? If all you are found is disagreeing because it is fun, I'm sure many would rather not have their time wasted.

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Congratulations on not cursing, excellent job. You claim to understand, and yet you miss the observation that I am asking all of this as a question. It does not seem likely that anyone knows all the facts of this situation, there are just a lot of swirling rumors. If you felt I presented my statements as factual statements about what will happen in regard to the Timbers, I apologize for not being clearer. I am trying to understand the situation as it may play out. I am looking at the initial information suggested, and then comparing my experience to decide if it seems rational or not.

Clearly you disagree with me; so do you disagree with my interpretation of FIFA law, do you disagree a out the Timbers and MLS being subject these laws, or do you disagree because your dream is for ES and WS to ascend to this high level of superiority? Over and over you complain about my comments, so what is your stick in the fire? If all you are found is disagreeing because it is fun, I'm sure many would rather not have their time wasted.

I most certainly missed you presenting this as a question. You seemed pretty certain of yourself in your first post? Only to back peddle to this point. Seems once challenged you changed your tone. My "stick in the fire" all along has been PROVE the FIFA regs apply. You can't thus we're back to opinion. You don't know thus we're done. My personal comments about you being full of BS really got you going suggesting a superiority complex. I still call BS.
You're the type armed with very general information thinking you know. You don't. I don't believe for one minute your questioning excuse. You've been called out and can't handle someone questioning your comments.
I'm tired of this as I'm sure all are. I'm finished. Unless of course you lob another high brow no knowledge comment my way.

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I most certainly missed you presenting this as a question. You seemed pretty certain of yourself in your first post? Only to back peddle to this point. Seems once challenged you changed your tone. My "stick in the fire" all along has been PROVE the FIFA regs apply. You can't thus we're back to opinion. You don't know thus we're done. My personal comments about you being full of BS really got you going suggesting a superiority complex. I still call BS.
You're the type armed with very general information thinking you know. You don't. I don't believe for one minute your questioning excuse. You've been called out and can't handle someone questioning your comments.
I'm tired of this as I'm sure all are. I'm finished. Unless of course you lob another high brow no knowledge comment my way.

Since you are so eager to insult me, and you seem pretty stuck in your own way of thought I wouldn't expect you would actually go back and read the flow of communication.
Basically it went as follows
Mess#117 based on my understanding I would expect...
118 give us a direct post

Mess120 this is where my understanding comes from, it leaves me skeptical
Mess 121 obviously you know nothing and have said nothing

127sorry if you don't understand
128 your a moron, putz, and your opinion is made up crap

129 I am offering an opinion, a discussion would be welcome but calling people moron etc is BS
130 your thin-skinned and your statement is BS

136 is this how you communicate with everyone
139????

140 once more with the concept, "will the timbers truly connect, or is this all hype on the side of Eastside and Westside?

141 I have understood your argument from the beginning.
142 so if you have understood the argument why have you not replied with a comment that shows your understanding.
143 you are not asking a question you are back peddling.

I will acknowledge one thing, you are correct I did not ask a question with a question mark at the end. I apologize if this was misleading. My understanding is this is a "discussion board". A place where one might expect discussions. I put a statement about a rule out there, wondering how the ES-WS-Timbers deal might be impacted. Your responses questioned knowledge of the rule, and provided little else. I had hoped to find someone who might reasonably discuss how this wouldn't be an issue. You can call BS all you want, it seems like that is how you carry on a conversation. Again my sincerest sympathy for those who actually spend time around you.

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My "stick in the fire" all along has been PROVE the FIFA regs apply.

I am not one of these two who keep going back and forth, and I am a little scared to jump in next to their posts, but i had to ask

"Is there anywhere that FIFA regs don't apply?

USYS,USCS, and every club I have ever been involved with often in their charter mentions that they adhere to all FIFA regulations.

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all FIFA

All FIFA regs. Very few leagues are not sactioned by FIFA .

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OYSA and OPL

So what is going on.

OYSA is going to be ESUFC, WSM, and VUSC (Timbers west, Timbers East, and Timbers SW Washington?

OPL is going to be everyone else?

It the OPC going to disolve, and just be the OPC 6.

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So what is going on.

OYSA is going to be ESUFC, WSM, and VUSC (Timbers west, Timbers East, and Timbers SW Washington?

OPL is going to be everyone else?

It the OPC going to disolve, and just be the OPC 6.

...and somewhere in there fits the rest of the state.

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finally ...

I will acknowledge one thing, you are correct I did not ask a question ... I apologize if this was misleading.

Apology accepted and I appreciate you admitting your original post was misleading. My point all along. I'm done ... and you can even have the final insult.

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I am not one of these two who keep going back and forth, and I am a little scared to jump in next to their posts, but i had to ask

"Is there anywhere that FIFA regs don't apply?

USYS,USCS, and every club I have ever been involved with often in their charter mentions that they adhere to all FIFA regulations.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/2011-mls-roster-rules

I just looked at these briefly. Didn't see anything referencing FIFA.
Do other countries even have a "Draft" etc.?
The whole home grown rule seems to be pretty specific to MLS.