John Bain - WSM

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Tom **** smell just as bad. This is just the same bull **** for THUSC parent try to transfer blame some where else. Go back to the crack house.

Just looking at the sentence structure alone I can say with relative certainty that this was posted by a WSM parent. Look up the big words if you don't understand.

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Premier League and First Division are the Same Thing

English soccer has had divisions for over a hundred years. The Premier league is a recent creation, but all that it is is the repackaging of the former "First" division. The "Championship" used to be second division etc. It's more like a pre AFL/NFL player saying he played in the NFL. I think John played with Bristol City, which at the time he was with them was in the first division--i.e., the top league at the time or what we would call the EPL today. This has to be right up there with the most pathetic attempts to disparage someone ever. John is the best youth soccer coach in Oregon by a large margin and a stand up guy.

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That is a pretty silly thing to say. Bain isn't the best youth coach in Oregon.

If you want to twist things around, you say Bain played in the EPL. OR, you are honest and say he played a few games the English First division - he only played in 6 games for Bristol City. He was on loan to Brentford (3-4th division club) most of his time at Bristol.

Great guy or not. You are who your friends are and he is part of the questionable WSM club.

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Wow

Pointless, if this is a problem then e-mail Westside. If you are asking a sincere questions, e-mail John directly.

Of all the coaches that you could attack, he's one of the most benevolent. I could understand an attack on Westside, but why try and throw John under the bus. Stupid post. You obviously don't know John, otherwise you wouldn't be posting this.

I wandered onto this post and you've got to be the thickest person I've come across in a while. "You don't know John".....you must have missed the original persons post. Its a point that many coaches embellishes resumes because noone calls them on it and parents seem to back them up thinking its true or some idiodic comment you just wrote. If that is your measure of a DOC or coach and you and many of the previous posters want to defend it. Go right ahead just shows your integrity along with that club. I'm not from Portland so it really doesn't matter to me but your comments made me post.

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I agree. However, Upstanding guy or not, Bain is still complicit with all the shenanigans going on at WSM.

This is so funny..... and flattering. This only proves the point that you know "you're hot" when the general public starts talking about "it." Just ask Hollywood. Thank you for picking on WSM and the DOC..... what this means is "we've still got it and you want it"....If no one is talking about WSM then we worry.... Let me guess, original poster's kid is losing or was cut or you're just a desperate parent. By the way, that "it" thing I refer to is called "class" John Bain has IT. Here's a challenge to the original poster (Prove me wrong - If you had any class you'd just ask him) You won't. I then challenge you to get the answer from John and post a new thread with the result. You can begin by saying "My apologies to John - I was wrong and his bio is correct" Go ahead... prove me wrong, you know you won't do it.

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Considering Bain played English soccer BEFORE the EPL existed, there is nothing to disprove. It is FACT. He never played in the EPL.

Stupidity is stupidity. Congratulations.

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I wandered onto this post and you've got to be the thickest person I've come across in a while. "You don't know John".....you must have missed the original persons post. Its a point that many coaches embellishes resumes because noone calls them on it and parents seem to back them up thinking its true or some idiodic comment you just wrote. If that is your measure of a DOC or coach and you and many of the previous posters want to defend it. Go right ahead just shows your integrity along with that club. I'm not from Portland so it really doesn't matter to me but your comments made me post.

He played in the EPL, original poster was wrong in their research. Made a bad assumption and had done poor research. Whether it was 1 game or a 100 games, the fact still holds true and ranks him pretty highly in comparison to most other coaches in the state for playing experience.

If this wasn't a personal attack on John, then his name wouldn't have been included, the club would've been contacted, and this forum could talk about how many coaches embellish resumes without having to question somebody that has not done any wrong.

I brought up the fact that "You don't know John," because despite some of the stupidity of the club he is still an upstanding coach and person. Of all the coaches that could be pointed out, it is pretty silly to try and shine a light on him. Even more silly when the original poster was wrong.

Boo Westside, Go John.

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Look at you perpetuating a lie. The EPL did not exist when John Bain played in England.

It is a fact.

Lie away.

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One Name or another.

Look at you perpetuating a lie. The EPL did not exist when John Bain played in England.

It is a fact.

Lie away.

Your are full of **** and should run back to the crack house or THUSC which every is the case.

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Your are full of **** and should run back to the crack house or THUSC which every is the case.

What does THUSC have to do with this? This thread has nothing to do with that club.

Apparently simple facts dumbfound you. The EPL was formed in 1992. John Bain played in England from 74-77. See the problem? Need a picture?

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Who is then You?

That is a pretty silly thing to say. Bain isn't the best youth coach in Oregon.

If you want to twist things around, you say Bain played in the EPL. OR, you are honest and say he played a few games the English First division - he only played in 6 games for Bristol City. He was on loan to Brentford (3-4th division club) most of his time at Bristol.

Great guy or not. You are who your friends are and he is part of the questionable WSM club.

I think he is the best youth soccer coach in Oregon. So do many others. Apparently you don't, but to describe the comment as silly is simply strange. His name has been at the top of the list for years. Name somebody better.

No I didn't twist things around. Before 1992, the top league in England was the first division. Now it's the EPL. Functionally, they are the same thing: the top league. It's a distinction without difference. It's like saying a player on AFL teams (Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers, etc.) before 1967 didn't play in the NFL. That's technically true, but today "the NFL" means playing at the top level, just like the EPL does now with soccer in England. Efforts to disparage John remain pathetic.

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Technically true is only true for mouthbreathers.

Perhaps you don't know much about English soccer. Maybe you don't know that before the EPL, the first division was not competitive in Europe. That the EPL changes many things, including improving the quality of English soccer.

Perhaps you don't know what you're talking about. Yes... that's probably it.

I guess we could say all our A-League Timbers players played in the MLS too. Right??? Nope.

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We have a bunch of American's arguing about English soccer history and infrastructure.

Here is John's playing profile in more detail. If you have questions you should contact John directly.

We are not from Westside, but have had a positive experience in dealing with John Bain:

Although born in Scotland, Bain's father was a scout for the English club Bristol City. Bain signed with Bristol City in July 1974, but was unable to break into the first team. In 1976, Bristol loaned him to Brentford F.C. for the 1976-1977 season. In 1978, Bristol transferred two players, defender Brian McNeill and John Bain to the Portland Timbers of the North American Soccer League. Before moving to the United States and joining the Timbers, Bain played on Scotland's U-18 and U-21 teams. He would never return to play in Britain or for the Scottish national teams. During five seasons with the Timbers, Bain became one of the team's all time greatest players. He would go on to score 45 goals and assist on 55 others giving him the Timbers' record for career goals and assists. Additionally, he is in second place on the list of games played with 148.[1] In addition to his outdoor success, Bain played in both the 1980-1981 and 1981-1982 NASL indoor seasons. In the 1980-1981 season, he scored 20 goals in 15 games. In the 1981-1982 NASL indoor season, his scoring pace dropped as he only bagged 8 goals in 18 games. The Timbers folded at the end of the 1982 outdoor season and the Seattle Sounders picked up Bain in the dispersal draft. He would play a single season with the Sounders, before they also folded. In 1984, he played with the Minnesota Strikers in the NASL’s last season. When the NASL collapsed in 1984, the Strikers moved to the Major Indoor Soccer League (MISL). Bain played one season indoors with the Strikers, then moved to the Kansas City Comets, also of the MISL, for the next two seasons. In 1989, Bain returned to Portland as a player/coach for the new Portland Timbers of the Western Soccer League (WSL). This team had begun existence as F.C. Portland, but had reclaimed the name and heritage of the NASL Timbers for the 1989 season. Bain was selected to the league’s first team All Star list that year. In 1990, the WSL merged with the American Soccer League to form the American Professional Soccer League (APSL). Bain remained with the team as a player/coach. At the end of the season, the Timbers owner, Art Dixon, folded the team after losing $500,000 over two years.

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You're a Buffoon

Technically true is only true for mouthbreathers.

Perhaps you don't know much about English soccer. Maybe you don't know that before the EPL, the first division was not competitive in Europe. That the EPL changes many things, including improving the quality of English soccer.

Perhaps you don't know what you're talking about. Yes... that's probably it.

I guess we could say all our A-League Timbers players played in the MLS too. Right??? Nope.

What in the world are you talking about? The point is the EPL is the successor to the old first division. That point isn't debatable. If it is, explain why Manchester United now boasts of winning 19 titles, besting Liverpool's 18. It's because titles from the first division and the EPL are considered the same-at least by those clubs. Who knows, maybe they know less than you too.

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There we have it. He did not play in the EPL. Just as the original poster said.

Thanks for the clarification.