PDX vs Ireland Round 2, ESUFC vs Ireland

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Or did Ireland tie FC

neither scored.

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HAHA fair point! :-) Ok so the teams played out a tie/draw.

Game info anyone? How did other games in the age group go today?

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HAHA fair point! :-) Ok so the teams played out a tie/draw.

Game info anyone? How did other games in the age group go today?

I'll bite on a re-cap

Ireland dominated the first half. They had many chances but could not convert. FC had a better second half but could not get their game going for most all of the game.

Ireland had at least 5 chances on free kicks. The calls seemed to go against FC today. Ireland could not convert on the free kicks or corner kicks today.

Shots- go to Ireland- They had at least one off the crossbar and one off the post.

Overall I would say Ireland controlled the game more than FC. These two teams get to square off one more time in league and then will probably play in the OPL finals again this year.

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FCW Possession beat FCP White

HAHA fair point! :-) Ok so the teams played out a tie/draw.

Game info anyone? How did other games in the age group go today?

The score was 4-1. Possession finally playing as a team with lots and lots of shots fired. FCPs goal came on a free kick after an FCW foul near the box (again!). Goals for FCW scored by 3 different players with everyone contributing and lots of nice ball movement.

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Ireland vs FC

I'll bite on a re-cap

Ireland dominated the first half. They had many chances but could not convert. FC had a better second half but could not get their game going for most all of the game.

Ireland had at least 5 chances on free kicks. The calls seemed to go against FC today. Ireland could not convert on the free kicks or corner kicks today.

Shots- go to Ireland- They had at least one off the crossbar and one off the post.

Overall I would say Ireland controlled the game more than FC. These two teams get to square off one more time in league and then will probably play in the OPL finals again this year.

FC actually scored but the goal was called back because of an apparent foul by the forward. So whether Ireland had two shots hit the crossbar, they never actually got anything in the net.

Ireland ended with 1 yellow card on a girl slide tackling a player after the ball was out of bounds and FC ended with 2 yellow cards - 1 on a midfielder and 1 on a forward.

So I guess even with FC not being able to get "their game going" they were still able to keep Ireland from scoring.

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U18G seem to be having more than ever injuries, I hope the coaches report this and take a good look at what's happening.

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FC actually scored but the goal was called back because of an apparent foul by the forward. So whether Ireland had two shots hit the crossbar, they never actually got anything in the net.

Ireland ended with 1 yellow card on a girl slide tackling a player after the ball was out of bounds and FC ended with 2 yellow cards - 1 on a midfielder and 1 on a forward.

So I guess even with FC not being able to get "their game going" they were still able to keep Ireland from scoring.

There seemed to be a lot of fouls called on FC during this game. Both teams played a physical style of game this time around. The calls just seemed to go toward FC. Yes, FC scored and was called back do to a foul on the foward. She did nothing different than most all players were doing during this game, grabbing jersey's and pulling.

Ireland's new defender played a good game and was able to disrupt FC's forwards. FC's passing game came together much better in the second half. I would have to agree that Ireland controlled the first half more.

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U18G seem to be having more than ever injuries, I hope the coaches report this and take a good look at what's happening.

Can you elaborate?

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There seemed to be a lot of fouls called on FC during this game. Both teams played a physical style of game this time around. The calls just seemed to go toward FC. Yes, FC scored and was called back do to a foul on the foward. She did nothing different than most all players were doing during this game, grabbing jersey's and pulling.

Ireland's new defender played a good game and was able to disrupt FC's forwards. FC's passing game came together much better in the second half. I would have to agree that Ireland controlled the first half more.

I am curious, with so many players on Ireland's roster, what kind of playing time did the new defender (from FCW I assume) get? With FCW having just 3 or so subs each game, She had to have been playing all the time there. I find these transfers interesting as FCW Possession has been a top 3 team so the quality of play seems like it wouldn't be that much better and with less playing time, I wonder if the drive is worth it? But then again, maybe it is with two players having left to go there in last year. I guess my question is, is the chance of getting a better college opportunity that much better at THUSC? Really wondering what you all think. Thanks.

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I am curious, with so many players on Ireland's roster, what kind of playing time did the new defender (from FCW I assume) get? With FCW having just 3 or so subs each game, She had to have been playing all the time there. I find these transfers interesting as FCW Possession has been a top 3 team so the quality of play seems like it wouldn't be that much better and with less playing time, I wonder if the drive is worth it? But then again, maybe it is with two players having left to go there in last year. I guess my question is, is the chance of getting a better college opportunity that much better at THUSC? Really wondering what you all think. Thanks.

Judging by what i saw yesterday Ireland had 6 players injured who did not participate. That leaves 3 subs, one of which was a keeper. So playing time is not an issue right now.

Quality players will always get playing time and at the HS ages as we are all finding out there are always kids who are injured so the bigger rosters are needed. FC has 2 ACL injuries.

From what i have read on here the coach at FCW has been the same since U11. That may be a reason to leave. Also the style of play at FCW is different to FC and Ireland for example. They are far more direct and don't try to build out of the back.

The final aspect to consider as we come into college recruiting time is what is the FCW college placement program like? What high caliber showcases have they attended and which ones are they going to attend? (Remember not all OR teams can get into Surf Cup and the Vegas Showcase)

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U18G injuries

Many teams seem to have several injuries. At least a couple of ACL's and other knee issues as well as ankles, strains. Just seems to be more, maybe just too much soccer as well as other activies in addition to the shortage of players at this point. Most teams are struggling to find players. Doesn't seem rouger just early in the season for this many injuries.

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To answer the question about the former FCW player who just joined THUSC, she played every minute. As for college exposure, the new player has already vebally committed to a University.

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Girls soccer, and possibly boys also, but girls soccer, for sure, is out of control in Oregon. We come from Northern California, the Bay Area, and honestly, soccer is far more clean and played as a skilled game, not a physical, aggressive, fouling game.

The referees here seem uneducated on what constitutes a foul, and whether to call it, or not. I read some blog post forwarded to me just a little bit ago, about a girls team in Oregon (Sodium and Majic I think it was), and it was full of "the girls fouled one another, jersey pulls, slide tackles from the back" and how the ref simply hollered "play on". Why? Why is this tolerated? Celebrated even it seems by some parents? Proud of their aggressive daughters I suppose?

Sure, soccer takes some physical strength, and there is bodying allowing to an extent. But watch the pro games, and then watch some of these U14-U18 girls teams in Oregon play, and it's shocking the difference in what's allowed. You'd think it'd be the opposite, really, but no.

Our club team has been discussing this very issue this week, as we too have numerous injuries due to fouls being allowed and tolerated. Simply put, we can blame who we want, but the majority of these injuries are very preventable and how we are allowing our girls to play is a huge part of that.

To see as many parents as I have seen in this past week, and posts from blogs and this website, copied and sent around our team, it's been amazingly eye opening on what parents think is good soccer, what parents are assuming is simply how the game is played, and worse, what some parents seem sickly proud of when their daughter does behave in an over-the-top, zero to do with skills or actual soccer talent type of a way.

You don't see the skilled teams from North or South Cal playing like this, bottom line. And sure, you can claim Oregon girls compete well with these teams, but I will argue that often, it is because the play these Oregon teams are playing is allowed, and can overwhelm a team who is used to playing a clean, skilled game of soccet. It works, you can win that way, for sure. But it's not true soccer, and it's not a clean, skilled game.

Parents are putting their daughters at risk allowing this, not demanding change, and by celebrating this style of play. And as a bonus negative, these girls from some teams are not being taught how to really play the game, it's shocking how many girls on my daughter's ODP team can't pass a ball, can't receive a ball, etc. But they can slam into you, knock you over, rip your jersey, cleat you from behind and front, and we celebrate this and call it good soccer. Scary.

J.

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Well Said

Girls soccer, and possibly boys also, but girls soccer, for sure, is out of control in Oregon. We come from Northern California, the Bay Area, and honestly, soccer is far more clean and played as a skilled game, not a physical, aggressive, fouling game.

The referees here seem uneducated on what constitutes a foul, and whether to call it, or not. I read some blog post forwarded to me just a little bit ago, about a girls team in Oregon (Sodium and Majic I think it was), and it was full of "the girls fouled one another, jersey pulls, slide tackles from the back" and how the ref simply hollered "play on". Why? Why is this tolerated? Celebrated even it seems by some parents? Proud of their aggressive daughters I suppose?

Sure, soccer takes some physical strength, and there is bodying allowing to an extent. But watch the pro games, and then watch some of these U14-U18 girls teams in Oregon play, and it's shocking the difference in what's allowed. You'd think it'd be the opposite, really, but no.

Our club team has been discussing this very issue this week, as we too have numerous injuries due to fouls being allowed and tolerated. Simply put, we can blame who we want, but the majority of these injuries are very preventable and how we are allowing our girls to play is a huge part of that.

To see as many parents as I have seen in this past week, and posts from blogs and this website, copied and sent around our team, it's been amazingly eye opening on what parents think is good soccer, what parents are assuming is simply how the game is played, and worse, what some parents seem sickly proud of when their daughter does behave in an over-the-top, zero to do with skills or actual soccer talent type of a way.

You don't see the skilled teams from North or South Cal playing like this, bottom line. And sure, you can claim Oregon girls compete well with these teams, but I will argue that often, it is because the play these Oregon teams are playing is allowed, and can overwhelm a team who is used to playing a clean, skilled game of soccet. It works, you can win that way, for sure. But it's not true soccer, and it's not a clean, skilled game.

Parents are putting their daughters at risk allowing this, not demanding change, and by celebrating this style of play. And as a bonus negative, these girls from some teams are not being taught how to really play the game, it's shocking how many girls on my daughter's ODP team can't pass a ball, can't receive a ball, etc. But they can slam into you, knock you over, rip your jersey, cleat you from behind and front, and we celebrate this and call it good soccer. Scary.

J.

J.

This is the most honest and right on post I have read in a very looooong time on this site. I have felt this way for a long time, my daughter grew up playing with a club who teaches skill (passing, receiving, etc) rather than physically bullying out on the field. I have to say it is a much more well played game when the team who wins does so by skill not brute force.

Unfortunetly, there are far too many teams/clubs here in Oregon who think that winning is the end all. I'm glad my daughter can play a beautiful skilled game of soccer. We'd give up winning over playing sloppy physical soccer any day.

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To answer the question about the former FCW player who just joined THUSC, she played every minute. As for college exposure, the new player has already vebally committed to a University.

Well maybe they want a different style of coaching and a higher level of play prior to going to college? More college minded kids on the new team may have been a factor. The college may have suggested a change of environment? Who knows.

There are always reasons for players to move clubs. Nobody moves from a team and club if they are happy with what they are getting. That is the bottom line.