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    NWCL 94 Final 4

    Timbers are in top 4

    GRFC is very close to in the top 4. The only way they miss is if Ireland wins and Eastside beats them by 3 and Harbor beats Crush by 3.

    Eastside would be out with a loss or tie combined with a Harbor win.

    Ireland needs a win or a harbor tie or loss or a Eastside tie or loss

    Harbor needs a win
    Second they need one of the following
    FC Portland to win OR tie
    or GRFC to win or tie
    Or to win by 3 and Eastside to win by 3

    #2
    Puget Sound Slammers AKA Crush

    Any truth to the rumor they are playing with players from other US Club Clubs?

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      #3
      VUSA's top birth

      Here's what I've heard throught the parent grapevine. VUSA's on top because they had two Tuesday night games against OSSA, who was unable to field a full team because of basketball and other conflicts. OSSA played both of those games without subs. One of them was played short a player. Now we all know that happens occasionally in winter soccer. But with the U16 rankings so close for those top teams, I call that being gifted the top berth. In a highly competitive league, VUSA had that random luck of two nearly back-to-back games with the odds stacked heavily in their favor.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        Any truth to the rumor they are playing with players from other US Club Clubs?
        I brought up the same thing on a different forum and it turns out US Club approved it.

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          #5
          U'16 NWCL final 4

          This is how i believe the the NWCL finished. (#1 will play #4 and #2 will play #3 in the semis)

          1) EFC 94 Red
          2) VUSA
          3) THUSC Ireland
          4) GRFC 94 Blue

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            #6
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            This is how i believe the the NWCL finished. (#1 will play #4 and #2 will play #3 in the semis)

            1) EFC 94 Red
            2) VUSA
            3) THUSC Ireland
            4) GRFC 94 Blue
            Looking at the tie breaker rules this would seem to be correct. THUSC and GRFC get through over Harbour due to a better goal difference.

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              #7
              I thought the second tie breaker was fewest goals allowed, not goal differential.

              TIEBREAKING PROCEDURES

              For each age group, including groups that will produce wildcard teams, the wildcard teams will be the teams that do not win their division with the highest point totals. In the event of a tie on point totals, the following tie breaking system will apply:

              1. Head to head
              2. Most number of wins
              3. Fewest goals allowed (max. of 3 per game)
              4. Best difference between goals scored and goals allowed (max. 4 per game)
              5. Coin flip or penalty kicks from the mark (at the NWCL’s discretion, after consultation with coaches of affected teams)

              That would knock GRFC out as they've allowed 9 goals, Ireland 7, and Harbor only 6.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                I thought the second tie breaker was fewest goals allowed, not goal differential.

                TIEBREAKING PROCEDURES

                For each age group, including groups that will produce wildcard teams, the wildcard teams will be the teams that do not win their division with the highest point totals. In the event of a tie on point totals, the following tie breaking system will apply:

                1. Head to head
                2. Most number of wins
                3. Fewest goals allowed (max. of 3 per game)
                4. Best difference between goals scored and goals allowed (max. 4 per game)
                5. Coin flip or penalty kicks from the mark (at the NWCL’s discretion, after consultation with coaches of affected teams)

                That would knock GRFC out as they've allowed 9 goals, Ireland 7, and Harbor only 6.
                Below is the correct ruling. #3 as stated by a previous poster is how they determined Harbour did not move on.

                Rule 304: Point System
                The NWCL shall operate under a point system. The point system shall award three points for a
                win, one point for a tie and no points for a loss. The breaking of ties in the final standings will be
                accomplished by applying the following criteria in order:
                1. Head-to-head record based on total points in conference games
                2. Total wins in conference games
                3. Goal difference in conference games.
                4. Goals scored in conference games.

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                  #9
                  The fact that GRFC and Harbour did not play each other and that all three team had the same league record of 5-2-1 means rule #3 is the first 'useable' tiebreaker.

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                    #10
                    Here is what the standing and scheduales page says

                    TIEBREAKING PROCEDURES

                    For each age group, including groups that will produce wildcard teams, the wildcard teams will be the teams that do not win their division with the highest point totals. In the event of a tie on point totals, the following tie breaking system will apply:

                    1. Head to head
                    2. Most number of wins
                    3. Fewest goals allowed (max. of 3 per game)
                    4. Best difference between goals scored and goals allowed (max. 4 per game)
                    5. Coin flip or penalty kicks from the mark (at the NWCL’s discretion, after consultation with coaches of affected teams)

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      Here is what the standing and scheduales page says

                      TIEBREAKING PROCEDURES

                      For each age group, including groups that will produce wildcard teams, the wildcard teams will be the teams that do not win their division with the highest point totals. In the event of a tie on point totals, the following tie breaking system will apply:

                      1. Head to head
                      2. Most number of wins
                      3. Fewest goals allowed (max. of 3 per game)
                      4. Best difference between goals scored and goals allowed (max. 4 per game)
                      5. Coin flip or penalty kicks from the mark (at the NWCL’s discretion, after consultation with coaches of affected teams)
                      These are the League Rules on the NWCL homepage....

                      http://www.northwestchampions.com/docs/2010_rules.pdf

                      Read Rule 304

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        These are the League Rules on the NWCL homepage....

                        http://www.northwestchampions.com/docs/2010_rules.pdf

                        Read Rule 304
                        You sure would hope the league would have the same rules on their front page as in the rules

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                          #13
                          From what we were told you follow the rules on the scores and standings page. Not the one listed under league rules.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            From what we were told you follow the rules on the scores and standings page. Not the one listed under league rules.
                            Can you tell me who told you that? You can email it to me if you want
                            kirkdavison@comcast.net

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                              #15
                              I think that it is bizarre that there seem to be two differing sets of rules for NWCL.

                              If you look at the EPL, for example, they use goal difference if teams are tied on points to determine who finishes above the other in league play. That has long been the formula used in the global game. Having said that every team plays each other twice in the EPL.

                              NWCL was a weird deal as not all teams played each other eg Harbour and Grfc. Some teams, on paper, seemed to get 'easier' games than others also.

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