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    #91
    Actually Haven't a Clue

    Don't know the player, the parent, or the team.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      said that isn't true? "hate posts" ???? have any names or accusations been made? what 'amazes me' is that everything youre upset about is all inferred by you. im not sure anyone attacked anyones daughter.....just pointed out clear and obvious things regarding this team. absolutely NO goal scoring or goal scoring chances. no gk. 'elite' player who plays forward on that team who hasnt scored. is any of this false or untrue??? im unclear as to why your upset and what specific attacks you are upset about. seems like truthful statements are being thrown out and you dont like it. is it the word 'elite' that has you angry? who began throwing this word around anyway? its a pretty silly word to use for 99.9% of players in oregon.
      Different age group, but my older daughter experienced something similiar last year when her club team fell apart. I have seen the player that is referenced above. If anyone could create opportunity out of nothing it would be someone like this girl. She is a great player. Sometimes the team is beyond help. This is not the same team it was last year. I hear they have lost players. I have seen them play in the NWCL and they are not even close to being able to compete where they were last year. I am not trying to take away from the other good players still left on the team but I wouldn't have high hopes for the team making it. Another victim of high school age club soccer.

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        #93
        Development vs. Winning

        There's an interesting article in SI about development of players, winning, and the role of ENCL. There's something in there for both sides of the debate, but it still gets back to technical training and developing players as more important than going out and winning every game. Here's the link:

        http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...dev/index.html

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          #94
          united nationally

          Good article, soccer needs long term direction from youth to college and beyond. This is a good time for Oregon to make some changes to be an example for the national level. How do you begin to make these changes if even youth soccer is about profits? Seems like 8v8 at U11 would have been a good place to start. What are some other steps to take to improve development and long term benefits while keeping the costs down. Is there any plan? We have NWCL, clubs working together, all good, what's next?

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            #95
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Good article, soccer needs long term direction from youth to college and beyond. This is a good time for Oregon to make some changes to be an example for the national level. How do you begin to make these changes if even youth soccer is about profits? Seems like 8v8 at U11 would have been a good place to start. What are some other steps to take to improve development and long term benefits while keeping the costs down. Is there any plan? We have NWCL, clubs working together, all good, what's next?
            merging soccer under one roof is the very start. Until every player is offered the same opportunity it will never be fair, equitable or economical.

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              #96
              merging soccer under one roof is the very start. Until every player is offered the same opportunity it will never be fair, equitable or economical.
              Why will it not be fair, equitable or economical? Isn't competition healthy?

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                #97
                Fair for Everyone

                Soccer is the most egalitarian sport out there. Nearly everyone plays at some point and the equipment needs are modest. Some will have more opportunities than others but if the measure is to wait until it can be fair for everyone, nothing will get done.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Why will it not be fair, equitable or economical? Isn't competition healthy?
                  with two sides competing for the players, egos and profitability get in the way. under one roof everyone is playing for the same team. expenses are shared across the entire group, keeping overhead down.

                  competition should be on the field, not in the managements offices.

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                    #99
                    beavertonsoccer.com

                    new indoor soccer facility in beaverton coming soon. Great deals for grand opening "beavertonsoccer.com"

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                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      There's an interesting article in SI about development of players, winning, and the role of ENCL. There's something in there for both sides of the debate, but it still gets back to technical training and developing players as more important than going out and winning every game. Here's the link:

                      http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...dev/index.html
                      The highlights of this article are below. But the ECNL model of points and winning doesn't seem to be about development yet, but still about winning. Maybe this will change if teams are allowed to lose some earlier games, but excel in the end of the season. Also if some formal player development models and diagnostics are put in place, rosters are controlled and play time is part of it for every player, but until then, time will tell, or if it just same ol some ol' with a different name.

                      Story Highlights
                      -USSF recognizes the need to improve player development in women's game
                      -The U.S. no longer dominates women's world soccer on every level
                      -Current youth development focuses too much on wins and losses

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                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        with two sides competing for the players, egos and profitability get in the way. under one roof everyone is playing for the same team. expenses are shared across the entire group, keeping overhead down.

                        competition should be on the field, not in the managements offices.
                        http://www.talking-soccer.com/TS4/sh...417#post492417

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