Opl & oysa

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OK everyone the fall season is done and so is the first season of the new OPL and revamped OYSA.

How did it go? What did you like or dislike about your soccer experience?

One thing about the OPL is the Cup schedules took forever to get out, makes it hard to plan a weekend. I like not having the NWCL teams in the cup.

OYSA seemed to be very competitive with the exception of a few leagues. Maybe this OYSA and OPL thing will work out just fine.

Your opinion.

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OK everyone the fall season is done and so is the first season of the new OPL and revamped OYSA.

How did it go? What did you like or dislike about your soccer experience?

One thing about the OPL is the Cup schedules took forever to get out, makes it hard to plan a weekend. I like not having the NWCL teams in the cup.

OYSA seemed to be very competitive with the exception of a few leagues. Maybe this OYSA and OPL thing will work out just fine.

Your opinion.

Had a great experience in OPL with a very competitive schedule. Fields and refs were good, scheduling was good.

I didn't mind the schedules for the Director's Cup coming out late as I kind of figured my weekend would be dedicated to soccer anyway.

Glad to hear OYSA did well too. I don't know about it being competitive in most brackets but I do hope the kids and parents all had a great experience as well.

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It all depends...

It all depends on what the goal is, is the goal to have the highest level of competition for all teams? Or is it something else? The statement that maybe this OPL OYSA split thing may be just fine is hard to understand what "fine" means.

Looking at most of the brackets of both OPL and OYSA there were around 3 or 4 competitive teams in each bracket, is those what fine means? It would be great to pull them into one bracket where 6-8 teams are competitive.

So I don't know, it all depends on where we set our expectations I guess.

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truth of the matter

The crystal ball is a little foggy tonite, and no fortune teller can accurately tell us what it would have been like had the two side never separated in the first place.

One problem as I see it is there are too many clubs in the Portland area. Imagine if the 8 OPL clubs consolidated into say 3 or 4, there wouldnt be such a dilution of quality players. Each club would have stronger team(s) ---- LIKE SEATTLE. Those players that dont make the premier cut, would still be able to play with players at their level against others of the same ability, just filtering would be better.

As long as we as parents all want our players to be on the "best" team, and every club offers competitive play there will always be a demand and all these clubs will fill our needs.

Im not saying that Washington's model is the best or even that it would work here in Oregon, but the facts remain that each of the premier clubs there have 2-3x the number of players in their clubs that our biggest have. Making their selection process wider and deeper for the best players to represent their club at the highest level. The other clubs compete in lower level competition with smaller groups of players.

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OPL must scrap the "non counting games". Every game should count!!!!

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The crystal ball is a little foggy tonite, and no fortune teller can accurately tell us what it would have been like had the two side never separated in the first place.

One problem as I see it is there are too many clubs in the Portland area. Imagine if the 8 OPL clubs consolidated into say 3 or 4, there wouldnt be such a dilution of quality players. Each club would have stronger team(s) ---- LIKE SEATTLE. Those players that dont make the premier cut, would still be able to play with players at their level against others of the same ability, just filtering would be better.

As long as we as parents all want our players to be on the "best" team, and every club offers competitive play there will always be a demand and all these clubs will fill our needs.

Im not saying that Washington's model is the best or even that it would work here in Oregon, but the facts remain that each of the premier clubs there have 2-3x the number of players in their clubs that our biggest have. Making their selection process wider and deeper for the best players to represent their club at the highest level. The other clubs compete in lower level competition with smaller groups of players.

It CAN work and should work if the DOCs in charge can come together and truthfully do what is best for the players here in Oregon. It's a shame it won't happen when my kids are still playing.

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OPL must scrap the "non counting games". Every game should count!!!!

I am guessing that the non-counting games are what knocked you out of the NWCL. What you need to realize is that it is the only fair way to do it as long as everyone is not playing the same teams the same amount of times.

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We think that OPL and NWCL went very well overall. Could use a few tweaks on the scheduling, especially with when the Seattle trips are. Still hoping that youth soccer improves for all of Oregon.

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I am guessing that the non-counting games are what knocked you out of the NWCL. What you need to realize is that it is the only fair way to do it as long as everyone is not playing the same teams the same amount of times.

Maybe you have it backwards. It's possible a team did really well with the friendlies but then, when it counted for NWCL, they did not.

You're right that this was the only way to be fair.

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Maybe you have it backwards. It's possible a team did really well with the friendlies but then, when it counted for NWCL, they did not.

You're right that this was the only way to be fair.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the non-counting games were only for NWCL qualifying?

Don't all games count towards the OPL championship. And if I remember correctly, if OPL season champ differs form OPL State cup champ than they play each other for automatic berth to US Club nationals? If it is the same in both than that winner advances with no extra game needed.

Maybe I am wrong?

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Isn't US Club Nationals for U13 and up?

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Correct me if I am wrong, but the non-counting games were only for NWCL qualifying?

Don't all games count towards the OPL championship. And if I remember correctly, if OPL season champ differs form OPL State cup champ than they play each other for automatic berth to US Club nationals? If it is the same in both than that winner advances with no extra game needed.

Maybe I am wrong?

This is making my head spin. What exactly is "OPL championship"? I dont think there is anything that really determines that.

The season champ is just the bracket champ, which is bogus because some teams might get to play weak teams twice.

A better measure is the NWCL games because they are a subset of the OPL bracket games and tehy only play each team once.

OPL State cup is just another tournament. It really doesn't equate to "OPL champion" because you exclude the Washington teams that played in OPL.

I think I have this right.

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This is making my head spin. What exactly is "OPL championship"? I dont think there is anything that really determines that.

The season champ is just the bracket champ, which is bogus because some teams might get to play weak teams twice.

A better measure is the NWCL games because they are a subset of the OPL bracket games and tehy only play each team once.

OPL State cup is just another tournament. It really doesn't equate to "OPL champion" because you exclude the Washington teams that played in OPL.

I think I have this right.

Not exactly, at least for our boys in the NWCL they have a different number of games with some of the teams. I think our coach understands the system and adjusts accordingly, communicating it to the team, but the focus is on getting the experience and improving at this point. Definitely a lot of growing going on in the boys, both physically and soccer skill wise.

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I am guessing that the non-counting games are what knocked you out of the NWCL. What you need to realize is that it is the only fair way to do it as long as everyone is not playing the same teams the same amount of times.

Why would you guess that????? (My guess is you are a THUSC parent!!!) Am I correct?

I just think it is silly to say this is a non counting game. If you have a league of 8 teams. play each other once or twice a season. That's what the rest of the world does.

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This makes no sense: "I am guessing that the non-counting games are what knocked you out of the NWCL." If they are games that dont count, then they dont count.