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    #31
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Thank you for this link. I did some checking around and this is not somebody that stands up to the best trainers in the area i am afraid. I would not pay good money to train with somebody that has no 'real' coaching experience and/or licenses.
    By far the best trainer my daughter has worked with and has worked with some of the top trainers mentioned on this board.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      By far the best trainer my daughter has worked with and has worked with some of the top trainers mentioned on this board.
      Who is the best trainer your daughter has worked with? Also who else has your daughter worked with?

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        #33
        Yes and many team coaches do not work skills. Most kids parents dont let them go to the park and play with friends. SKILLS SKILLS SKILLS. You need them and the people that teach them. If you are on a U11 team that is not doing 3/4 of practice on skills run for the hills. I would bet that almost every girl on a Premier team at the U15 level has had a trainer here and there. NOTHING wrong with that.

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          #34
          Nothing Wrong with Hiring a Training

          There's certainly nothing wrong with hiring a trainer other than what a previous poster noted about conflicts between the coach and the trainer. I agree with the other posters about getting out and playing. Go to the park, play in the driveway, the back yard, somewhere. Too much coaching turns players into over-coached little robots. The most common criticism of American players.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            There's certainly nothing wrong with hiring a trainer other than what a previous poster noted about conflicts between the coach and the trainer. I agree with the other posters about getting out and playing. Go to the park, play in the driveway, the back yard, somewhere. Too much coaching turns players into over-coached little robots. The most common criticism of American players.
            This is a great topic on several levels. First, no one is bashing a club or team. Second, this is a very useful topic at many age levels.

            I agree with the quoted post to an extent. My view is the coach is there to elevate the players in a more situational environment at U15. Formations, situations, team offense & team defense as well as some (not the majority) skills training & conditioning. He/she should expect by this age a well rounded skill set that should grow with a few tweaks but not 3/4 of practice. If a player is inferior or lacking in any areas then the onus of further development should fall on the individual player. i.e. privates.

            Prior to U15 I believe the rolls should be somewhat reversed. U11, U12, U13 is where 3/4 should be spent on skills and the rest situational training and conditioning. If a player in this age wants to progress more rapidly then again, the onus falls on the player to train privately. Just my 2 cents having been around it for several years.

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              #36
              The best advice I can give is that the more your daughter is playing and getting touches on the ball the better.

              Getting a good trainer once a week along with getting her a team to play futsal with would be beneficial.

              My daughter worked with a local coach who doesn't have a ton of "training" experience but knew how to get little girls to do amazing foot work and he didn't charge us a thing. He did it as a service for the girls in our community. I can 100% say he is why my daughter has the love of soccer, amazing foot skills and a true understanding of the game.

              Once she outgrew him, we took her to a great club that taught that building skill was priority over winning (no boot ball). Then, to help keep her growing as a player and keep her foot skills improving, we had her in as many sessions of futsal as possible. Find a group of girls who have good work ethic and create a team of these girls and sign up a team for futsal and indoor soccer.

              I can say that if she is not on a good team and doesn't have a good coach who teaches skill. Remember skill over winning will get her further in her aspiration to be a great player.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                The best advice I can give is that the more your daughter is playing and getting touches on the ball the better.

                Getting a good trainer once a week along with getting her a team to play futsal with would be beneficial.

                My daughter worked with a local coach who doesn't have a ton of "training" experience but knew how to get little girls to do amazing foot work and he didn't charge us a thing. He did it as a service for the girls in our community. I can 100% say he is why my daughter has the love of soccer, amazing foot skills and a true understanding of the game.

                Once she outgrew him, we took her to a great club that taught that building skill was priority over winning (no boot ball). Then, to help keep her growing as a player and keep her foot skills improving, we had her in as many sessions of futsal as possible. Find a group of girls who have good work ethic and create a team of these girls and sign up a team for futsal and indoor soccer.

                I can say that if she is not on a good team and doesn't have a good coach who teaches skill. Remember skill over winning will get her further in her aspiration to be a great player.
                Sorry, I noticed I didn't finish my sentence...

                I can say that if she is not on a good team & doesn't have a good coach who teaches skill, she will not grow as a player at the same speed as if she was with a team/coach that really focuses on skill building. Even with a trainer.

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                  #38
                  BCcE36

                  Good advice, but I would say be careful not to overdo it. We had to pull our kids out of indoor/futsal because of overuse knee injuries. The indoor is harder on the knees and we found it was better for our kids to take a month off of soccer, doing some other activities and start the next season fresh.

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                    #39
                    Good information

                    I like the idea of Futsal to help develop the foot skills. I imagine that my DD would prefer that over private lessons anyway if I forced her to chose between them.

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                      #40
                      The wisdom of the ages...

                      From way back, it has been agreed the game is the best teacher. This will always be true. In one hour of playing you are forced to respond improvise, problem solve, all on top of the physical skills you use.

                      On top of that playing is Fun!

                      This can be Futsal, outdoor, on a small field whatever, but thus develops the whole package.

                      Unfortunately, while I love what it does for my coaching friends, private lessons are necessarily fitness and drill based. As said above too many drills makes boring robotic players.

                      Just my opinion.

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        I like the idea of Futsal to help develop the foot skills. I imagine that my DD would prefer that over private lessons anyway if I forced her to chose between them.
                        Oh I don't know. My daughter chose the privates over the indoor due to the fact that her instructor told her to expect no less that one thousand touches in an hour session. She finishes everyone ringed with sweat and smiling. Way more concentrated work than an hour of futsal.

                        Also, since another post mentioned overuse injuries, I might add that my DD likes to play basketball and run track which I encourage as a cross-training activity. It gives her muscles, joints and tendens a chance to strengthen and be exposed to several different forms of movement, not just those associated with soccer. These are activities she approached me about playing and I was thrilled to help her find a team.

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                          #42
                          Interesting!

                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          Oh I don't know. My daughter chose the privates over the indoor due to the fact that her instructor told her to expect no less that one thousand touches in an hour session. She finishes everyone ringed with sweat and smiling. Way more concentrated work than an hour of futsal.

                          Also, since another post mentioned overuse injuries, I might add that my DD likes to play basketball and run track which I encourage as a cross-training activity. It gives her muscles, joints and tendens a chance to strengthen and be exposed to several different forms of movement, not just those associated with soccer. These are activities she approached me about playing and I was thrilled to help her find a team.
                          Thank you for this post. Can you tell me how often you did the privates, how many kids, how long the session, and how much you paid? Too many questions...I know! :-)

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                            #43
                            @Soca lova

                            Originally posted by Soca lova View Post
                            From way back, it has been agreed the game is the best teacher. This will always be true. In one hour of playing you are forced to respond improvise, problem solve, all on top of the physical skills you use.

                            On top of that playing is Fun!

                            This can be Futsal, outdoor, on a small field whatever, but thus develops the whole package.

                            Unfortunately, while I love what it does for my coaching friends, private lessons are necessarily fitness and drill based. As said above too many drills makes boring robotic players.

                            Just my opinion.
                            I agree that drills are boring.

                            What do you think about hiring the coach or assistant coach to do some one-on-one? afterall, no one knows my DD's weaknesses likethe coach. But maybe this is not allowed,

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              Thank you for this post. Can you tell me how often you did the privates, how many kids, how long the session, and how much you paid? Too many questions...I know! :-)
                              She had one-on-ones every-other-week with Adam Leyland of THUSC. He has watched her play and had discussions with her coach to gain insight has to her strengths/weaknesses. We settled on EOW because of the practice/travel/game schedule and we didn't want her to burn out or risk overuse injuries. He was very accommodating around times and my DD loved it and her skills grew exponentially.

                              The rates are something you need to work out with him but he was right in line with rates discussed earlier. Hope this helps.

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                                #45
                                Sorry I think this reply is posting to the wrong link.

                                I actually agree in many ways that kids in the US are over coached in many sports. Soccer in particular. There are a few reasons for this, but the main reason is Parents do not feel confident sending the little ones alone to the park. The second reason is most dads in the US did not play soccer when they were kids, so they are not super comfortable kicking a ball around or showing their kids how to strike a ball......THEY DONT KNOW HOW!. Thus every 5 year old plays kindergarten soccer with a coach. (who may or may not know anything.)

                                Kids play like robots when they have joystick coaches telling them every little detail of the game from the bench, not from private trainers. In fact, I believe there is a need for private trainers because of this joystick coaching.

                                Ideally having a bunch of kids play at the park and figure the game out is perfect, but remember many kids had dads that played football.....they have very little to draw from, so we see the trainers. You can hear these dads at every game "just kick it".....
                                Good guys just don't get the game. (I am not intentionally ignoring moms, just using dads as an example.)

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