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    #31
    Still Confused

    Originally posted by soccertwinz View Post
    Has anyone seen any totals? There are to be 20 to 30 total, but it sounds like some on here are assuming that there are more than that? Does anyone know how many kids are from their home clubs besides THUSC?

    In the Press Release it stated quite clearly "the top 20-30 players from the ‟97-‟98 boys and girls age groups" It seems like many of the people responding are saying 5 from this club 5 from that club. How will they get sorted down? The training is coming up pretty soon, and it would be pretty embarrassing if the National folks walk in expecting a group of absolutely top level players sorted and ready to go, and instead they get a mishmash of players who they have to sort.

    Everyone is right, they leave room to change this later, but how does the group get winnowed down?

    Who makes the cuts, or have they already been made?

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      #32
      98 girls are not supposed to be included.....

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        #33
        shouldnt be confused

        u
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        In the Press Release it stated quite clearly "the top 20-30 players from the ‟97-‟98 boys and girls age groups" It seems like many of the people responding are saying 5 from this club 5 from that club. How will they get sorted down? The training is coming up pretty soon, and it would be pretty embarrassing if the National folks walk in expecting a group of absolutely top level players sorted and ready to go, and instead they get a mishmash of players who they have to sort.

        Everyone is right, they leave room to change this later, but how does the group get winnowed down?

        Who makes the cuts, or have they already been made?
        Players that are to show up Sunday have already been notified. The only club that said there is 5 is THUSC no one else has listed numbers from their club. Players that come Sunday are eligible to be invited back but it is not guaranteed, they are evaluated during Tue training similar to during ODP training.

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          #34
          Players

          Folks, this is not ODP. As far as I know, no online list of players will be posted.

          25 Boys and 25 girls will be there.

          Some DOC only invited their best (1-5) and others more.

          My understanding the DOCs talked and cut the numbers to meet the 25.

          After this first training session for this age group, some will be cut and others kept with more invited.

          First time Hugo has been here and we need to see how this flows. Heard he will be back about once a month and bring 'Guest' coaches/players (no idea who).

          The 94/95/96 will happen after Fall HS is done.

          Positive Note: This is not just OPL or OYSA. This players from around the state and not with just the Premier Clubs invited. Remember, these sessions are free to those invited.

          Pray that the DOC keep out of the 'friend' business and recommend the best talent.

          Good Luck to all the Players and Show well.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post

            Positive Note: This is not just OPL or OYSA. This players from around the state and not with just the Premier Clubs invited. Remember, these sessions are free to those invited.

            Pray that the DOC keep out of the 'friend' business and recommend the best talent.

            Good Luck to all the Players and Show well.
            I am curious how this us anything but just OPL. The process described was your DOC nominates a player, and scouts will travel around and decide who makes it. It is hard for me to believe this scouting happened at non-OPL locations.

            Hear me right, I think this is a great opportunity and wish the best luck to all participants. I just find it hard to believe it is more than just OPL.

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              #36
              Trust or not

              Soca lova,

              This is "Unregistered".

              I understand your lack of trust, but I would ask you to try. Hugh is from US Soccer. Not US Youth or US Club.

              This is about the kids with the highest level of talent. If it is not, no reason for Hugh to keep this up. Parents can not pay to getting their kids in. Free opens to door for all.

              Your DOC should be attending the training to see if they have players that should be attending.
              "Local coaches are invited to attend to view the quality of a youth national team training session and evaluate local players. Trainings will be held monthly and players may be added or cut as deemed necessary by Directors Hugo Perez and Claudio Reyna. The nomination process for players is listed on the Oregon Premier League website
              (www.oregonpremierleague.com)."

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                #37
                If you don't agree don't sweat, this is only the beginning. Earlier posting says players can be added or dropped each month. Coaches and DOC's sometimes make judgment calls we don't all agree with. What you should be doing is putting belief in your DOC that they will get their best out there. Players who want the invitation should be stepping up their game and working harder. This happens too often with ODP. Players get discouraged because they didn't make the cut and lose the interest they had for competing at a higher level.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  This is about the kids with the highest level of talent. If it is not, no reason for Hugh to keep this up.
                  And that is what worried WSM when they saw the final list that the DOC's sent out. T5here really shouldn't of been more than 3-4 per club for those age groups. And that really depends on the club. I heard WSM actually only recommended like 2 boys. If they're only going to send 2 then THUSC should not be sending 5.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Soca lova,

                    This is "Unregistered".

                    I understand your lack of trust, but I would ask you to try. Hugh is from US Soccer. Not US Youth or US Club.

                    This is about the kids with the highest level of talent. If it is not, no reason for Hugh to keep this up. Parents can not pay to getting their kids in. Free opens to door for all.

                    Your DOC should be attending the training to see if they have players that should be attending.
                    "Local coaches are invited to attend to view the quality of a youth national team training session and evaluate local players. Trainings will be held monthly and players may be added or cut as deemed necessary by Directors Hugo Perez and Claudio Reyna. The nomination process for players is listed on the Oregon Premier League website
                    (www.oregonpremierleague.com)."
                    You may have heard me wrong, my comment was not about a lack of trust in Mr. Perez, or his system. My comment was a strong skepticism regarding the selection mechanism. Comments like "The DOC's got together and shortened the list down" (sorry paraphrased) or "have your DOC contact us and we will come scout you" (again paraphrased). These indicate a pretty tight control if the selection process by the OPL DoCs. Now maybe they are completely without bias, and will open the doors to everyone, but I am skeptical. I am particularly skeptical when you consider what if accepting someone from outside OPL meant one if their players lost their spot?

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                      #40
                      right kids

                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      And that is what worried WSM when they saw the final list that the DOC's sent out. T5here really shouldn't of been more than 3-4 per club for those age groups. And that really depends on the club. I heard WSM actually only recommended like 2 boys. If they're only going to send 2 then THUSC should not be sending 5.
                      Knowing the kids they sent from THUSC I disagree. We will know better after the evaluation, bit the kids sent are quality kids and even some of the 97 ODP players weren't selected so I don't think it is too much. Next month will reveal whether it was or wasn't based on whether thy are invited back. This is a learning process for the DOCs too. The number isn't crazy for two age groups if you compare it to the number of ODP players per year from a large club like THUSC.

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                        #41
                        Kind of a technical question

                        So how does those fit in the scheme of things. There has been talk about ID2, this, and ODP. Is the idea if you are already in ODP you should leave this opportunity for others, or should each kid try to be on as many of the paths as they can be on. Kind of the idea that if they don't see me here, they may see me there.

                        On one hand we want the absolute best players, which would probably lead to duplication, but don't we also want to spread the wealth?

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          So how does those fit in the scheme of things. There has been talk about ID2, this, and ODP. Is the idea if you are already in ODP you should leave this opportunity for others, or should each kid try to be on as many of the paths as they can be on. Kind of the idea that if they don't see me here, they may see me there.

                          On one hand we want the absolute best players, which would probably lead to duplication, but don't we also want to spread the wealth?
                          This is free!! Duplicate or not how do you turn it down?

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            Knowing the kids they sent from THUSC I disagree. We will know better after the evaluation, bit the kids sent are quality kids and even some of the 97 ODP players weren't selected so I don't think it is too much. Next month will reveal whether it was or wasn't based on whether thy are invited back. This is a learning process for the DOCs too. The number isn't crazy for two age groups if you compare it to the number of ODP players per year from a large club like THUSC.
                            Knowing the kids they sent from THUSC I disagree with you. The 98's playing U12 aren't as strong as some of the 98's playing U13 right now. I'm guessing most DOC's just sent kids to send them but it's not too bad of an idea as long as the Mobile Traning center comes back year after year. I just hope they don't feel as if they've wasted their time if the DOC's aren't going to take this seriously.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              We will know better after the evaluation, bit the kids sent are quality kids and even some of the 97 ODP players weren't selected so I don't think it is too much. .
                              The '97 pool was extremely weak so that isn't saying much.

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                                #45
                                I am a Rush parent and I know we have some players making the trip over for this. They are really excited for the opportunity. It was good to hear the OPL took the nominations of our DOC.

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