OPL Club Finances

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OPC in charge

The 8 clubs of OPC are willing to play nice this year because their goal seems to be to cut OYSA down to the size where they can drown it in a bathtub. One then wonders whether there will be any protection for non-OPC clubs if OPL is successful in creating a monopoly. It still seems that OPC and OYSA should still try to work out their differences.

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My understanding is that some of the other clubs are still negotiating with OPL trying to get them to be more reasonable on the travel issue. I've heard that OPL has said they are willing to negotiate issues like these if a club joins this year, but that there will be no negotiations next year (e.g. for Bend). You can make your own decision as to whether or not this is strong arming.

Was travel really that big of an issue for OPL? The people I know that have kids in the OPL 8 clubs were never consulted on what they felt the problems with OYSA are (e.g. travel). So, I wonder who really has a problem with travel?

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just say the big 8, go ahead.

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Throw the book at them how? First, OYSA is not the employer of their member clubs - in fact, it's quite the opposite: OYSA is employed by the clubs who are their members based on the fact that it's the membership who pay for the salaries and programs of OYSA with their dues. And if you're the boss and your employee isn't doing the job they've been assigned to do, then as the employer you have the right to find someone else to do the job. Second, OYSA cannot ban any club or team from competing in their leagues or tournaments just because they are members of a different organization. US Club Soccer and OYSA (USYS) fall under the jurisdiction of the US Soccer Federation, which does not allow such practices. The OPL held one public forum outlining their expansion and the programs they will be offereing. How is that enticing? Were clubs offered money or other such reward for joining OPL? No, it's the responsibility of the board and coaching directors at the clubs outside the OPL 8 to look at what is being offered by both organizations and decide what is in the best interest of their members and teams. The OPL 8 did the right thing by finishing out their competitive calendar with OYSA and making the break after tryouts; they could have pulled all their teams out and screwed things up for a lot of other teams who were also entered in the tournaments; also, most clubs include the State and President's Cup entry fees in their club fees for their players the year; the natural breaking point then, rather than disrupt the teams and players, is to break away after this competitive year is over, on May 8.

You lost me when you said they could have just pulled there clubs out.

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Travel not the issue - just a smoke screen

Was travel really that big of an issue for OPL? The people I know that have kids in the OPL 8 clubs were never consulted on what they felt the problems with OYSA are (e.g. travel). So, I wonder who really has a problem with travel?

In my opinion, OPL is just throwing up smoke screens to pretend what the issues are. It is ALL about them making money from leagues to pay those big DOC salaries. They will tell you it is about evertyhing except money and control

I will admit that OYSA needs to make operational and staff changes, and they do move slower than they should with all of this. But, they are listening and there are changes being made.

I would not use my kids as guinea pigs in a new league. If OPL is able to do a good job, maybe look at them next year. Stick with OYSA and support the state.

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OYSA - knows what they're doing

We received this last night from our coach. Obviously OYSA had this in the works to be able to make these huge changes. They were probably finally able to get to soccer siince they don't have to babysite the DOCs anymore. If you know someone that got this, read it. I am only pasting part of it here, but there is something called the Far West Regional League that will be for the top U13 and U14 teams (The top U15-U18 teams already have access to this. Anyone at OPL cannot do this league.

They are also holding meetings around the state.


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Oregon Regional Leagues
In 2009, Oregon Youth Soccer introduced the Regional League concept at the U11 boys and girls. With the new formats, we saw a significant increase in the total number of teams that participated. The Regional League format had two primary objectives:
1) Reduce Travel
2) Provide Flexibility with schedules, playing dates, etc.

Based upon the success at the U11 age groups, Oregon Youth Soccer will expand the Regional League concept to the U12-U14 age groups and add the U10 age groups to each of the regions. Benefits for teams in the Regional League will be that no team will have overnight travel unless they request it and no team will have to participate in the Qualifying Tournament. Regional leagues will also allow us to better accommodate requests from teams that have special scheduling needs, allowing teams to create a flexible game schedule that will work best for their teams:
1) Choose to play on Saturdays only or Sundays only
2) Request days or weekends off to attend special events
3) Request days or weekends off to coordinate around school holidays
4) Request double headers to free up additional weekends
5) Coordinates schedules for teams sharing a coach

The three regional leagues will be:

Portland Metro League (PML):
Oregon Youth Soccer and Washington Youth Soccer will sponsor leagues for teams from the Greater Portland Metro area and District 5 in Washington (Greater Vancouver area). All U10-U14 boys and girls teams will be able to participate. Leagues at U10 and U11 will be geographically based and those teams will each play in their own state. Leagues at U12-U14 will be based on ability and teams from both states will play home/away schedules.

Central Valley League (CVL):
Geographically, this league will extend from Eugene to the southern fringe of the Portland Metro area and will include teams from Central Oregon. All U10-U14 boys and girls teams will be able to participate.

Southern Oregon Classic League (SOCL):
Geographically, this league will extend from south of Eugene to the Oregon/California border and will include central, southern Oregon. All U10-U14 boys and girls teams will be able to participate.


We would like to thank you for your time and interest and hope to see you at one of the Town Hall Meetings where additional information will be provided on all of these leagues. As League details are finalized, they will also be posted to the website. www.oregonyouthsoccer.org

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Portland Metro League

Oregon Youth Soccer and Washington Youth Soccer Partner on New League
Portland Metro League to Bring Greater Opportunities to Youth Soccer Players

Portland, Oregon (April 30, 2010) – Oregon Youth Soccer in cooperation with Washington Youth Soccer today announces a historic partnership between the two states resulting in the formation of the newly named Portland Metro League.

The Portland Metro League is a non-premier level soccer league for boys and girls ages ten through fourteen (U10-U14) in the greater Portland Oregon -Vancouver Washington metro area. The league will kick off with a Fall session that runs from September 12 – October 31, 2010. The area covered by the Portland Metro League will be within a one hour drive from Portland's Delta Park, with limited exceptions. Team placement into the league will be determined by Oregon Youth Soccer and District 5 (Washington Youth Soccer) representatives. The costs to teams joining the league have yet to be determined.

Doug Andreassen, Washington Youth Soccer’s Board of Directors President, states “Washington Youth Soccer and Oregon have partnered once again on a new exciting opportunity for the Vancouver/Portland area. The Metro League is designed to improve opportunities for our players to get affordable, same skill-level competition with less travel.”

Washington Youth Soccer board member Troy Maxcy, who resides in District 5, spoke about the cooperative league. “I believe this is the first Oregon-Washington league structure in history. This new partnership allows Washington and Oregon teams the opportunity to play opponents they haven't previously played in a league setting.”

“We are very excited to work with our neighbors to the north to create a more enjoyable and better balanced soccer experience for players on both sides of the border. It is refreshing when state and organizational territories don’t interfere with what makes the most sense for kids and their families,” said Chuck Keers, Executive Director of Oregon Youth Soccer.

Games for the league will be scheduled using Oregon Youth Soccer gaming software and the Oregon Youth Soccer scheduling contractor.

For Premier teams, Oregon Youth Soccer will, as a part of its Fall league, offer Premier Divisions that District 5 teams can opt to enter. These are state-wide leagues and involve travel and a league qualifying tournament.

About Washington Youth Soccer
Washington Youth Soccer is the largest youth soccer organization in Washington. Washington Youth Soccer is the state's affiliate for US Youth Soccer, which is the largest sports organization in the United States and the most populous member of the United States Soccer Federation, the governing body for soccer in the United States. The Washington Youth Soccer is the sixth largest membership in the nation; our organization represents over 128,000 players (ages 4-19) and their families, 15,000 coaches on 12,000 teams and 6,500 referees in the state of Washington. Washington Youth Soccer’s mission is to foster the physical, mental and emotional growth and development of the State of Washington's youth through the sport of soccer at all levels of age and competition.

Media Request: When referring to Washington Youth Soccer, please refer to the association only as Washington Youth Soccer, and never as WYS or WSYSA. We appreciate your cooperation.

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Click here to visit WashingtonYouthSoccer.org and read the full press release.

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OPL experiment

Why would anyone want to give up the State cup and regionals for this experiment? Washington clubs did a similar thing a few years ago and it failed miserably. No thanks but I think we'll stick with OYSA.

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The area covered by the Portland Metro League will be within a one hour drive from Portland's Delta Park, with limited exceptions.

Does this mean many of the games will be played at Delta Park?? That alone would make me choose OYSA. Have you seen any games played there recently?? Mud bowl, and that's being generous.

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Does this mean many of the games will be played at Delta Park?? That alone would make me choose OYSA. Have you seen any games played there recently?? Mud bowl, and that's being generous.

Why would you choose OYSA? Should you read that release again, you would see this venture is what OYSA/WYS is proposing as an alternative. Although the release states this league would be for non-premier.

But you appear so ready to condemn OPL and choose OYSA, you go right ahead. You show yourself as pre-inclined to believe anything against OPL even when you can't comprehend what is actually being presented in the argument!

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OYSA= geared for rec teams and all votes basically decided by rec teams because they out number competitive clubs. Rec teams should NOT be allowed to vote on competitive soccer.

OPL=geared for competitive clubs with voting done by competitive clubs

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OYSA= geared for rec teams and all votes basically decided by rec teams because they out number competitive clubs. Rec teams should NOT be allowed to vote on competitive soccer.

OPL=geared for competitive clubs with voting done by competitive clubs

I will believe that non-group of 8 have a say in this for profit corporation, when I see it.

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Why would anyone want to give up the State cup and regionals for this experiment? Washington clubs did a similar thing a few years ago and it failed miserably. No thanks but I think we'll stick with OYSA.

What's the point of winning State Cup if you're not going to be competing against the best teams? There's no pride in that. Let's be real, who ever wins State Cup next year will embarass Oregon at Regionals. For U12G this year only the OPL teams made it into the quater finals.

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Oregon State Cup 2010

Clubs that are OPL or will be for the 2010/2011 season in semi's:

U12G-All
U13G-All
U14G-3 out of 4 (though the 4th is Rush and their younger teams have played OPL)
U15G-2/4
U16G-3/4 (again Rush is the 4th)
U17G- All
U18G-3/4 (Rush is the 4th)

U12B-2/4
U13B-1/4
U14B-3/4
U15B-3/4
U16B-1/4
U17B-All
U18B-2/4 (Rush being one that is not)

OPL Teams:
39 out of 56 teams

So that means OPL teams will win State Cup at U12G, U13G, U17G and U17B for sure. They also have a great chance winning at U14G, U15G, U16G, U18G, U14B, and U15B.

I'm sick of hearing people on here talk about money. OYSA and OPL are both trying to make money, no one is better than the other in that catagory. It's just like everything else in life. Get over it. Just put your child where you see best fit and leave everything else out of it. If you want them to play competitive soccer then you have to go OPL. If you want them to win a meaningless State Cup next season then put them in OYSA. Both organizations are wrong but they have made their choice and now you have to make yours.

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Oregon State Cup 2010

Clubs that are OPL or will be for the 2010/2011 season in semi's:

U12G-All
U13G-All
U14G-3 out of 4 (though the 4th is Rush and their younger teams have played OPL)
U15G-2/4
U16G-3/4 (again Rush is the 4th)
U17G- All
U18G-3/4 (Rush is the 4th)

U12B-2/4
U13B-1/4
U14B-3/4
U15B-3/4
U16B-1/4
U17B-All
U18B-2/4 (Rush being one that is not)

OPL Teams:
39 out of 56 teams

So that means OPL teams will win State Cup at U12G, U13G, U17G and U17B for sure. They also have a great chance winning at U14G, U15G, U16G, U18G, U14B, and U15B.

I'm sick of hearing people on here talk about money. OYSA and OPL are both trying to make money, no one is better than the other in that catagory. It's just like everything else in life. Get over it. Just put your child where you see best fit and leave everything else out of it. If you want them to play competitive soccer then you have to go OPL. If you want them to win a meaningless State Cup next season then put them in OYSA. Both organizations are wrong but they have made their choice and now you have to make yours.

People are talking about the money because it IS about the money and control. You continue to throw out baseless nonsense and stoke the fires. Why you continue to revel in this is embarrassing. You and the OPL need to get over yourselves.

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People are talking about the money because it IS about the money and control. You continue to throw out baseless nonsense and stoke the fires. Why you continue to revel in this is embarrassing. You and the OPL need to get over yourselves.

But wait, most of the complaints are from OYSA folks ABOUT OPL. So if anyone needs to get over themselves, it's the close minded OYSA people.

Give OPL a chance, you may be pleasantly surprised.