Yeah okay, I hate you.

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Also, please answer my standing question of why the Trump/Barr-controlled Department of Justice hasn't indicted the Bidens, when we all know they would do that in a New York second if there were a shred of evidence.

You answered your own question. It's that pesky evidence thing. There isn't any.

If Trump/Barr tried to indict the Bidens with no evidence, they'd be laughed out of court like they were when they tried to indict Don McGahn.

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Stop the whataboutism and state for the record whether you believe Trump abused political power for personal gain. It's not a complicated question. Answer, please.

Whataboutism? If you're so interested in personal gain, why won't you tackle the issue I posed to you? What are you afraid of? It's a simple question. No need to hide, you're in a safe place. Are you saying none of what Biden and his family have done shows any hint of impropriety? How can you sweep it under the rug when the man is running for POTUS. Its a pretty big deal. Trump has been attack 6 ways to Sunday but you give Biden a pass. Funny how the libtards clam up when they're under the microscope. You're a tough guy when it comes to bashing Trump but quiet as a little church mouse when it comes to left wing corruption. No balls! I stated why I support Trump. You show me what he's been found guilty of. Please spare us the same Mueller loop of speculation, opinion, and conjecture. We know you hate him but what has he been criminally found guilty of? Russian agent? Child rapist? Collusion? Obstruction? It's been 3 years now. Certainly he's been found guilty of something. I'll be patiently waiting.

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Stop the whataboutism and state for the record whether you believe Trump abused political power for personal gain. It's not a complicated question. Answer, please.

Con won't. he never has when you press him. It's always whataboutisms.

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Con won't. he never has when you press him. It's always whataboutisms.

Still waiting!

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Whataboutism? If you're so interested in personal gain, why won't you tackle the issue I posed to you? What are you afraid of? It's a simple question. No need to hide, you're in a safe place. Are you saying none of what Biden and his family have done shows any hint of impropriety? How can you sweep it under the rug when the man is running for POTUS. Its a pretty big deal. Trump has been attack 6 ways to Sunday but you give Biden a pass. Funny how the libtards clam up when they're under the microscope. You're a tough guy when it comes to bashing Trump but quiet as a little church mouse when it comes to left wing corruption. No balls! I stated why I support Trump. You show me what he's been found guilty of. Please spare us the same Mueller loop of speculation, opinion, and conjecture. We know you hate him but what has he been criminally found guilty of? Russian agent? Child rapist? Collusion? Obstruction? It's been 3 years now. Certainly he's been found guilty of something. I'll be patiently waiting.

For phuk sake there have been zero accusations of Joe Biden doing anything illegal, except by Trump! Mysteriously Trump never went after Biden of supposed corruption in the last 2.5 years, but since Biden announced in in early spring he was running suddenly the heat is on old Joe. If Joe was so crooked why didn't Trump start an investigation right away? Oh yeah, he was too busy on executive time.

As for Hunter, sure what he did was semi swampy. He used his dad's name to open doors. Bad optics, but let's face it that's how the world works. People do it all the time. Did you know Barr and Giuliani have kids working in the White House. Do you think they'd have gotten those jobs if their dads' weren't working for Trump? What hunter did also was not illegal, not here, not in Ukraine. Hunter Biden has admitted it looks bad and in hind sight he wouldn't do it again. He also said he's stepping down off the Chinese board he's on and won't do any foreign business if his dad is elected. What he did is certainly a lot less swampy than giving your daughter and son in law jobs in the US government and having your sons run around the world promoting Trump properties - or even better, granting a huge international summit to your failing country club.

Face it con, no matter how you try to spin it, your whataboutsims fail over and over again.

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Whoa, easy Tiger. You're gonna choke on your own hypocrisy. Let me get this straight. You have a problem with somebody using their political influence for personal gain? Really? So what the heck is Biden doing? So the VPOTUS gets little Hunter jobs for foreign companies in Ukraine and China. Without any background in that industry, he's paid $50,000 a month. Gee, thanks Dad. Moreover, reports have now surfaced he also received a $1.5 billion payoff from China, one of our biggest adversaries. Wow, no deals there! Next Biden uses his political position by threatening the Ukraine with a classic quid pro quo in order to have the prosecutor investigating Hunters company immediately fired. Then brags about it on national TV. Funny, not a peep from you. Now we find out the whistle blower worked for Biden. Wait, what? You and the other libtards know this is as shady as it comes. Here lies the hypocrisy. If you think there's even a shred of truth that Biden used his position for personal gain, he has to go. This is plain criminal. There's no other way to look at it. Why don't you call this stuff out and regain some respectability as a valid political party that truly puts American first rather than the party of backdoor deals. Once again, the Dems look silly going after Trump for the same "compromised" behavior. Can't have it both ways.

Even assume you are 100% correct on Biden, you are comparing apples to oranges. Biden (assume you are correct) engaged in plain old fashioned, nepotism, corruption.

Trump - while President of the United States - held up federal aid expropriated by Congress - until he received dirt on a political opponent. Much worse than plain regular everyday corruption because it involves 1) a foreign government, 2) taxpayer money, and 3) most important, a direct violation of the constitution.

You see, as a trump supporter, you think this is about corruption. Trump is corrupt, but he's not being impeached for being corrupt. He's under investigation for trading political favors that benefit him for aide to a foreign gov't. The foreign govt part is key - its what makes this a direct violation of the constitution and not plain every day corruption (like clinton, biden, jfk, and probably every politician, ever).

Understand now???

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Trump has been attack 6 ways to Sunday but you give Biden a pass.

For the record, I would give anyone of either party a pass if there's no evidence of a crime. If there is evidence of a crime (on either side) I'm in favor of an investigation, and prosecution if warranted.

Post #110 had a good discussion of the differences between the Biden situation and Trump. No need to repeat.

Now, please answer the simple question. Do you believe that Trump abused his power for personal gain? It's Yes or No. Refusing to answer = No.

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Even assume you are 100% correct on Biden, you are comparing apples to oranges. Biden (assume you are correct) engaged in plain old fashioned, nepotism, corruption.

Trump - while President of the United States - held up federal aid expropriated by Congress - until he received dirt on a political opponent. Much worse than plain regular everyday corruption because it involves 1) a foreign government, 2) taxpayer money, and 3) most important, a direct violation of the constitution.

You see, as a trump supporter, you think this is about corruption. Trump is corrupt, but he's not being impeached for being corrupt. He's under investigation for trading political favors that benefit him for aide to a foreign gov't. The foreign govt part is key - its what makes this a direct violation of the constitution and not plain every day corruption (like clinton, biden, jfk, and probably every politician, ever).

Understand now???

Not really. Because the same stuff happened multiple times in 2016. The DNC pays a Russian operative for a fake dossier and the bombshell Politico report of the Clinton administration colluding with the Ukraine for more Trump dirt as “political favors”. The two foreign governments is the key part. Still apples to oranges???

Biden withholds 1) taxpayer money to a 2) foreign country in a 3) classic quid pro quo and violates the constitution. The foreign government is the key part. Biden used his political standing for his own personal gain. Still apples to oranges??? Classic hypocrisy!

Understand now????

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For the record, I would give anyone of either party a pass if there's no evidence of a crime. If there is evidence of a crime (on either side) I'm in favor of an investigation, and prosecution if warranted.

Post #110 had a good discussion of the differences between the Biden situation and Trump. No need to repeat.

Now, please answer the simple question. Do you believe that Trump abused his power for personal gain? It's Yes or No. Refusing to answer = No.

From your refusal to answer = 0, I’ll take it as you don’t recognize any wrong doing by Biden. Finally, you stopped hiding from your hypocrisy. Good on you!

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The DNC pays a Russian operative for a fake dossier . . .

Why do you keep repeating this lie? It's been explained to you multiple times. Are you too stupid to understand or is it a defense mechanism to keep your feeble brain from exploding?

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From your refusal to answer = 0, I’ll take it as you don’t recognize any wrong doing by Biden. Finally, you stopped hiding from your hypocrisy. Good on you!

Post #110 by another poster sums up my feelings on Biden. Shady, perhaps. Criminal, no. And very different from the clearly impeachable offenses by Trump.

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Not really. Because the same stuff happened multiple times in 2016. The DNC pays a Russian operative for a fake dossier and the bombshell Politico report of the Clinton administration colluding with the Ukraine for more Trump dirt as “political favors”. The two foreign governments is the key part. Still apples to oranges???

Biden withholds 1) taxpayer money to a 2) foreign country in a 3) classic quid pro quo and violates the constitution. The foreign government is the key part. Biden used his political standing for his own personal gain. Still apples to oranges??? Classic hypocrisy!

Understand now????

You are just flat out making up false facts to make Trump's behavior somehow excusable.
No proof - zero - exists of what you claim happened in 2016. Show me the proof and I change my opinion. In contrast, there is written evidence showing Trump trading favors w/ a foreign govt in 2019, testimony, and oral admissions. Additionally, it may be dirty politics to hire a former foreign intelligence agency to acquire dirt, but that is not the same as dealing with a foreign government.

But let's make a deal. I will assume as given that all you state about Biden is true. If that is the case, he should step down as nominee and Trump should be impeached.

You have not in any way cast any doubt on Trump's behavior. It is impeachable and violates the constitution. Whatever Biden did or did not do, is not the issue, he isn't president. If you think he did something wrong, then he should stop running for President and not to be a hypocrite you should agree that Trump should be impeached. Period.

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Not really. Because the same stuff happened multiple times in 2016. The DNC pays a Russian operative for a fake dossier and the bombshell Politico report of the Clinton administration colluding with the Ukraine for more Trump dirt as “political favors”. The two foreign governments is the key part. Still apples to oranges???

Biden withholds 1) taxpayer money to a 2) foreign country in a 3) classic quid pro quo and violates the constitution. The foreign government is the key part. Biden used his political standing for his own personal gain. Still apples to oranges??? Classic hypocrisy!

Understand now????

My that is some revisionist history. Biden was acting on behalf of Obama and was acting in concert with the EU because the prosecutor wasn't doing ENOUGH to prosecute corruption. You cons keep forgetting that part, as well as the fact that at the time Hunter Biden wasn't even under investigation! The owner of the gas company was for other matters, but not Biden and not his role on the board. What's the benefit to Biden - to get a new prosecutor to make sure they investigate his son?

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You are just flat out making up false facts to make Trump's behavior somehow excusable.
No proof - zero - exists of what you claim happened in 2016. Show me the proof and I change my opinion. In contrast, there is written evidence showing Trump trading favors w/ a foreign govt in 2019, testimony, and oral admissions. Additionally, it may be dirty politics to hire a former foreign intelligence agency to acquire dirt, but that is not the same as dealing with a foreign government.

But let's make a deal. I will assume as given that all you state about Biden is true. If that is the case, he should step down as nominee and Trump should be impeached.

You have not in any way cast any doubt on Trump's behavior. It is impeachable and violates the constitution. Whatever Biden did or did not do, is not the issue, he isn't president. If you think he did something wrong, then he should stop running for President and not to be a hypocrite you should agree that Trump should be impeached. Period.

And if Biden did something wrong why has Trump waited 2.5 years to go after Biden, the leading Democratic candidate? Why hasn't he gone after HRC or Obama, who also claims are corrupt? Why didn't he bring up corruption as a concern with Ukraine all that time? I'm sure it's all a big coinkydink and when it's all over we'll just laugh and laugh and laugh ;)


Cons have no response because they know what Trump did was wrong and purely for his own personal gain.

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From your refusal to answer = 0, I’ll take it as you don’t recognize any wrong doing by Biden. Finally, you stopped hiding from your hypocrisy. Good on you!

Joe Biden didn't do anything wrong (see above). Not even Hunter Biden did anything legally wrong. Trump and Ghouliani are the ones claiming he did, yet it was never brought up once since Trump took office. Funny how it only did once Joe announced he was running.