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According to the article only 6.1% of the entire study body at UF is 'black'. Isn't the Coalition application supposed to fix that? -
No, it is meant to offset financial barriers.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
A growing amount of research has shown that students from disadvantaged backgrounds often do not participate effectively in the college application process, struggle with applying for financial aid, and often do not get awarded all the financial aid for which they qualify. As a result, even some of the most highly qualified students do not attend college, attend colleges that do not engage their full potential, or do not complete their degrees. The Coalition is developing a platform of tools to help reduce these barriers and make progress in leveling the playing field for students from all backgrounds.Comment
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from Alligator “UF has been working to improve its race equity by reaching out to students as young as eighth grade through recruitment and partnership programs, Bryant said. He also said UF was one of the founding members of Coalition, a universal college application service that promotes diversity in race and income in college applicants.”Comment
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That is a UF criteria not a coalition criteria, founding member or not. While helping lower income student benefit minorities more directly, it is a very narrow view. Getting a college education is a financial barrier than a racial barrier though some may argue differently. If you are looking to ensure that all bright and deserving kids have access, then race should not come into it.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
Bryant comment are two separate points and the below Coalition statement states their goal explicitly without confusing Bryant's lip service to diversity.
"Research shows that not all students have equal access to college. Specifically, students from disadvantaged backgrounds—including lower-income, under-resourced, and/or first-generation students—are not provided with the tools and resources they need to apply to college. In addition, they frequently struggle with applying for financial aid, and they often do not receive the financial aid for which they qualify.
As a result, some of the most highly qualified students do not attend college, or do not complete their college degrees.
That’s why we’re here. The Coalition offers students a set of free, online college planning tools, called MyCoalition, which helps them learn about, prepare for, and apply to colleges. Not only that, we provide informative articles and valuable resources for college preparation. With MyCoalition, we are breaking down barriers and increasing access to college for all students."Comment
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UF and FSU are using the Coalition Application. FSU admitted 20% who were first ever in their households to attend college. UF and FSU are doing their part to admit students who are low income, first generation and to have racial diversity. Also, they take a larger number of community college student transfers each year then their freshman classes.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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https://www.collegesimply.com/colleg...ty-of-florida/
This CollegeSimply website allows one to enter a college and find data about the student population diversity.
Comparison of Big 4 Public Universities (last available data from 2017/18)
Best Colleges National Rank
UF- Ranked #83
FSU- Ranked #130
USF Main Campus- Ranked #192
UCF- Ranked #153
% White
UF 57%
FSU 64%
USF 51%
UCF 53%
% Black
UF 6%
FSU 8%
USF 11%
UCF 11%
% Hispanic
UF 21%
FSU 19%
USF 21%
UCF 24%
% Asian
UF 8%
FSU 2%
USF 6%
UCF 6%
*There are other categories including- two or more races, unknown race, Hawaii Pacific, and International
# of Undergraduates
UF 52,669
FSU 41,362
USF 43, 540
UCF 66,059
Students Median Family Income
UF $60,120
FSU $60,914
USF $58,397
UCF $62,518
The big four public universities in Florida have fairly similar overall diversity. UF and FSU use a Coalition Application to try to increase diversity of income and race.Comment
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Can someone crunch the statistics for the makeup of the soccer teams at each of those four?Comment
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Look at the faces for the universities, mostly football and basketball players.Comment
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The gender diversity is somewhat off because there is no mens soccer at uf and fsu.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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UF won a big one over LSU with a not so very diverse looking team.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
While no ranking system is perfect, US News, Forbes and Princeton Review are the generally accepted college ranking systems as ranked bye several agencies and media sources. While the statistics above were probably pulled directly of each schools published admission/enrollment data and can be assumed accurate, the College Simply's ranking is suspect at best.
If the Coalition App's goal is to open more doors to disadvantage and low income groups, the only well to tell would be to look at previous years prior to the Coalition App being instituted and see the change in diversity and income of the student population.Comment
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Since the Coalition App was implemented the number of black students admitted to UF has gone down. The biggest difference is the number of out-of-state students admitted as freshman has gone up. Keep in mind admitted is different than the actual percent that enroll. If only 5.5% of those who were admitted are black the number who actually enroll for fall 2019 will be less.Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
"The University of Florida released more figures regarding the diversity, socioeconomic and geographic breakdown of students admitted to the 2023 class on Wednesday.
Close to 25 percent of students admitted were minorities, though the percentage of African-American students admitted (5.5 percent) was lower than UF’s current enrollment percentage of African-American students (7.2 percent).
Last fall, UF received an F grade for racial equity in a USC study, based on class of 2016-17 African-American student enrollment (6.1 percent) being below the percentage of African-Americans ages 18 to 24 within the state of Florida (21.5 percent).
UF senior political science major and NAACP student president Ashley Marceus said the 2023 admissions figures were disheartening, but not surprising. Marceus said that while UF is trying the solve the problem cosmetically with pictures around campus, it has been unable to get to the root cause of why it has been unable to attract and enroll more African-American students.
“It’s really, really apparent that this is predominantly a white institution when you walk around campus,” Marceus said. “So I think on the surface UF is making it seem it’s an issue it wants to resolve, but as the numbers are showing, it’s not an issue they are going to try to fix directly. It’s going to try to fix it cosmetically, from the surface.”
UF school spokesman Steve Orlando said that by law, the school cannot use race or ethnicity to determine admissions.
“We try to make other efforts, to make the campus a welcoming place to everyone,” Orlando said. “We are trying to make the effort there and we know that there’s more work that needs to be done.”
Of the 14,176 students admitted, 50.6 percent (7,169) are white. Hispanic made up the largest minority group admitted at 17.9 percent (2,543), followed by African-American at 5.5 percent (779) and American Indian at .0005 percent (8). Asian students made up 10.3 percent (1,459) of admitted students, though UF did not classify Asians in its overall number of minority students (3,330), which accounted for 23.4 percent of admissions.
Gender-wise, UF’s 2023 admissions class is 60 percent female (8,503) and 40 percent male (5,673).
Orlando said the overall diversity numbers are in line with trends that UF has seen in recent years.
In the geographic breakdown, 40.5 of students admitted (5,764) are confirmed from Florida, while 24.2 percent (3,436) have a residency status that’s undetermined. There were 35.1 percent (4.976) admitted from outside the state, though that number could change because it includes admitted students who have not submitted the necessary information to be classified as a Florida resident.
“We are attracting more students from outside the state, which is in line with recent trends,” Orlando said.
In the socio-economic breakdown, 18.9 pecent (2,684) of students admitted are first generation students, while 17.1 percent (2,419) come from single-parent households. Low income students made up 12.5 percent (1,779) of the class, while 2.8 percent of students (396) admitted came from low income schools.
https://www.gainesville.com/news/201...ix-of-studentsComment
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Is Asian no longer a minority race?
Asian students made up 10.3 percent (1,459) of admitted students, though UF did not classify Asians in its overall number of minority students (3,330), which accounted for 23.4 percent of admissions.Comment
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Close to 25 percent of students admitted were minorities, though the percentage of African-American students admitted (5.5 percent) was lower than UF’s current enrollment percentage of African-American students (7.2 percent).
The Coalition application was supposed to increase racial diversity at UF.Comment
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Asian is a very broad term that covers anyone basically from India to China. Indians, Chinese, Japanese and South Koreans tend to be very academically driven and apply to many of the country's top schools. They are often over represented at some schools relative to their %age of the general population. African Americans are often under-represented at many schools relative to their %age of the general pop.Originally posted by Unregistered View PostComment
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