Florida Colleges

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UF and FSU will each enroll about 6,200 Freshman for the fall. Many are from out-of-state. Rough estimate is UF and FSU could each enroll 5.000 of the highest Bright Futures Academic Scholars. 52,000 seniors are expected to qualify for the highest Bright Futures Academic Scholars level having full tuition covered. Another rough estimate shows USF could enroll 15,000 of the Bright Futures Academic Scholars recipients and UCF could enroll 15,000 of the Bright Futures Academic Scholars. UCF and USF seem to be winning in enrolling more of Florida's Bright Futures Academic Scholars (three times more). UF and FSU then have to take the community college transfers after two years who maybe never even qualified for the highest level of the Bright Futures Academic Scholars scholarship.

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Be careful...the elitist will attack you for calling these colleges great.

Answering your own posts to feign relevancy again.

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There was no saying there is a conspiracy or that any kid that can be admitted no matter how or when is a problem. Remember the poster and his or her response to other good colleges was the one pointed out as the enlist and that students with 1150’s can’t be admitted to these colleges. The responded was merely pointing out that yes, many, many students under the “1340 and 4.7 gpa are admitted to these colleges. Pointing out that UF, FSU, UCF, USF...admit freshman to the January class to better position themselves in the rankings is completely fine...they all do it. The point that I believe the original poster that said Florida has very good colleges was not wrong either. It just some (or at least the poster who blasted these other college Students) feel if you can’t get in or chose to go to a Florida Southern than you are less then which is an ignorant statement. Out.

You are ignoring that a transfer student still has to qualify for the college with the university they are applying for. As an example, while the minimum to transfer is 2.0 gpa; you will not be accepted into any college of engineering at any university though the college of agriculture may be in your sights.

After reading all these posts it appears there is one zealot that keeps arguing that all the schools are more or less the same. That is incorrect. While there are kids who go local because they want to be close to home, I don't see that as big a deal as some make it. If you live anywhere in North Central Florida, there are many colleges that are more or less local in nature and within 2.5 hrs drive or less.

Throwing sports into it since this is TS after all, if a kids wants to be a nurse and gets accepted at Florida Southern and UF, there may be little difference in the coursework in earning that degree though UF is ranked higher however, continuing to a masters gives you the opportunity to move to another school assuming you qualify. If that same student is recruited to play soccer at Florida Southern, that becomes a very real incentive to go to Florida Southern over UF. If a player wants to be an engineer, then that kid may be choosing between their major and playing soccer which should never happen.

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UF, FSU, UCF and USF admit freshman class who are at or above the mean 90th percentile in test scores and have a mean 4.1 GPA or above. FAU, FIU, FGCU, UNF, UWF are some other great Florida public universities that students may attend and get admitted for the fall with lesser requirements. Many want to stay local and save money to transfer or apply to graduate school later.

This is misleading as many if not most schools including UCF, FAU and UNF have freshman dormng requirement. Your assertion that kids want to stay local is mitigated by that fact. While there are cases where students can get a waiver for freshman housing, they majority have to go. While they may indeed wish to stay near home, it is not cheaper over all to do so.

As for the other part of your comment, yes they do accept students at the mean 4.1 but they also accept student below that mean as well.

All these post with different point of view are interesting as they make you wonder how many families get so worked up when their student with a 4.7/33/1490 failed to get into an Ivy or MIT/CalTech type school though it happens all the time. I suppose one could argue that UF/UCF's engineering school is every bit as good as MIT's with the same logic that has been applied here.

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This is misleading as many if not most schools including UCF, FAU and UNF have freshman dormng requirement. Your assertion that kids want to stay local is mitigated by that fact. While there are cases where students can get a waiver for freshman housing, they majority have to go. While they may indeed wish to stay near home, it is not cheaper over all to do so.

As for the other part of your comment, yes they do accept students at the mean 4.1 but they also accept student below that mean as well.

All these post with different point of view are interesting as they make you wonder how many families get so worked up when their student with a 4.7/33/1490 failed to get into an Ivy or MIT/CalTech type school though it happens all the time. I suppose one could argue that UF/UCF's engineering school is every bit as good as MIT's with the same logic that has been applied here.

UCF, UNF and FAU have no dorming requirement, but maybe years ago they did. They are big commuter schools as well as having the campus life. We have friends whose kids got into UF and FSU but they choose to attend the local university and live at home. Some schools like MIT are in another ball park.

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You are ignoring that a transfer student still has to qualify for the college with the university they are applying for. As an example, while the minimum to transfer is 2.0 gpa; you will not be accepted into any college of engineering at any university though the college of agriculture may be in your sights.

After reading all these posts it appears there is one zealot that keeps arguing that all the schools are more or less the same. That is incorrect. While there are kids who go local because they want to be close to home, I don't see that as big a deal as some make it. If you live anywhere in North Central Florida, there are many colleges that are more or less local in nature and within 2.5 hrs drive or less.

Throwing sports into it since this is TS after all, if a kids wants to be a nurse and gets accepted at Florida Southern and UF, there may be little difference in the coursework in earning that degree though UF is ranked higher however, continuing to a masters gives you the opportunity to move to another school assuming you qualify. If that same student is recruited to play soccer at Florida Southern, that becomes a very real incentive to go to Florida Southern over UF. If a player wants to be an engineer, then that kid may be choosing between their major and playing soccer which should never happen.

Most players and their parents aren’t stupid enough to let them choose D2 soccer over a school with their major.

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UF and FSU will each enroll about 6,200 Freshman for the fall. Many are from out-of-state. Rough estimate is UF and FSU could each enroll 5.000 of the highest Bright Futures Academic Scholars. 52,000 seniors are expected to qualify for the highest Bright Futures Academic Scholars level having full tuition covered. Another rough estimate shows USF could enroll 15,000 of the Bright Futures Academic Scholars recipients and UCF could enroll 15,000 of the Bright Futures Academic Scholars. UCF and USF seem to be winning in enrolling more of Florida's Bright Futures Academic Scholars (three times more). UF and FSU then have to take the community college transfers after two years who maybe never even qualified for the highest level of the Bright Futures Academic Scholars scholarship.

This fact equalizes out the Big 4 public universities more than most realize.

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Because UCF and USF take more Florida students as freshman these are the students that become more connected and involved in sororities and clubs on campus, and bigger fans and alumni than the transfer or graduate students who come in later and live off campus. The transfers may not have the Bright Futures scholarship and have to work more side jobs. The UCF and USF alumni base is growing at a faster and more loyal rate than UF and FSU. UCF, USF, and others are located in big cities where there are more corporate partnerships and internships. There could be some interesting studies on the future paths of the big florida public universities.

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UF and FSU are behind in not having Men’s soccer.

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UCF, UNF and FAU have no dorming requirement, but maybe years ago they did. They are big commuter schools as well as having the campus life. We have friends whose kids got into UF and FSU but they choose to attend the local university and live at home. Some schools like MIT are in another ball park.

Really? They need to inform the folks that give the tours.

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Most players and their parents aren’t stupid enough to let them choose D2 soccer over a school with their major.

You would be surprised how often this happens. Have even read folks arguing the point here on TS that kids change their minds all the time so why pass up a chance to play college ball. Scary as that sounds, it happens.

More common is the other scenario where a kid may chose to go to Florida Southern over UF for a nursing degree BECAUSE they can play at Florida Southern. I am on the fence on that one because I am not sure how much a difference a nursing degree from UF vs Florida Southern is. A girl on my daughters team made that choice.

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Really? They need to inform the folks that give the tours.

You do realize that UCF, UNF, FAU have no where near the campus housing as the freshman enrolling. But there are new, safe apartment housing at affordable rent a walk from many of those campuses, often with services to help place freshmen with similar interests and lifestyles.

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You would be surprised how often this happens. Have even read folks arguing the point here on TS that kids change their minds all the time so why pass up a chance to play college ball. Scary as that sounds, it happens.

More common is the other scenario where a kid may chose to go to Florida Southern over UF for a nursing degree BECAUSE they can play at Florida Southern. I am on the fence on that one because I am not sure how much a difference a nursing degree from UF vs Florida Southern is. A girl on my daughters team made that choice.

Florida Southern has an excellent nursing school but private schools are expensive and the player would need an excellent soccer scholarship package offered.

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You are ignoring that a transfer student still has to qualify for the college with the university they are applying for. As an example, while the minimum to transfer is 2.0 gpa; you will not be accepted into any college of engineering at any university though the college of agriculture may be in your sights.

After reading all these posts it appears there is one zealot that keeps arguing that all the schools are more or less the same. That is incorrect. While there are kids who go local because they want to be close to home, I don't see that as big a deal as some make it. If you live anywhere in North Central Florida, there are many colleges that are more or less local in nature and within 2.5 hrs drive or less.

Throwing sports into it since this is TS after all, if a kids wants to be a nurse and gets accepted at Florida Southern and UF, there may be little difference in the coursework in earning that degree though UF is ranked higher however, continuing to a masters gives you the opportunity to move to another school assuming you qualify. If that same student is recruited to play soccer at Florida Southern, that becomes a very real incentive to go to Florida Southern over UF. If a player wants to be an engineer, then that kid may be choosing between their major and playing soccer which should never happen.

The only zealot is the one that twisted the comment that there are other very good colleges in Florida...don’t see how that is saying they are the same. And if someone chooses one of the other colleges over the “big name schools” for that person it is actually better. It is the elitist zealot that feels the need to pound on someone who chooses a Florida Southern, University of Tampa, etc just to validate that they are at the best college and you are not.

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Florida Southern has an excellent nursing school but private schools are expensive and the player would need an excellent soccer scholarship package offered.

Not if the family can afford it. That greatly changes decision making