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    #16
    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    The tournaments make extra money for the clubs, not individuals! The clubs are all non-profits! Don't be so naïve! Local clubs put on these tournaments and invite other local clubs so they don't have to travel too far outside of the area to SAVE money for you and other parents. So it is all about the kids! And learn the difference between using THERE and THEIR!
    Not the case with Soccer Skills Unlimited!!!!!

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      #17
      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      90% of the competitive teams are playing Rec soccer wearing comp uniforms. It is a joke, a SCAM. But as parents you should be smart enough to figure it out by U12. When you hear your coach or club member talk of development, tell them to stick it up their lying ARSE. They are not fooling anybody.
      The truth is that 90% of the parents really want a REC experience. They are happy winning trophies in less competitive tournaments or trophy hunting in 2nd or 3rd division, then posting on facebook. That's exactly what they want. I don't think parents are dumb for the most part. I think the club soccer experience is exactly what 90% of them want.

      They don't want their kid to be evaluated and told he is not good enough or good at skill X but very weak at skill Y. 90% of the kids playing competitive soccer are really not good players. Internationally, make that 98%.

      Its a pizza party, trophy hunting world.

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        #18
        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        90% of the competitive teams are playing Rec soccer wearing comp uniforms. It is a joke, a SCAM. But as parents you should be smart enough to figure it out by U12. When you hear your coach or club member talk of development, tell them to stick it up their lying ARSE. They are not fooling anybody.
        How many kids by u12 can properly hit a volley? Chip a shot over the keeper while dribbling at top speed? "Colgar" un pase? (sorry for the Spanish) Consistently look to switch the field? Consistently use first touch to create space ? Have a basic understanding of tactical runs?

        I think it's 5% of the kids playing competitive, if that. The truth is that it is almost all REC and parents do not how hard it is to get true high level soccer skills nor do they care as long as they get that plastic trophy.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          The whole south florida super cup and mega cup proves how soccer here is about the money and not the kids. The clubs are now telling coaches and teams which tournaments they can go to this soceer season. They say its so the clubs can have unified showing in tournaments. Thats such B.S.. They want there coaches and teams to support other clubs financially that support there own financial interest.

          So then its about the money. They want you to fill the pockets of there buddies(club directors) by joining there tournaments and in return they too will fill there pockets (club directors) when they too have a tournament.

          At the end of the year you will have participated in 4-5 local tournaments and it will be against the same 4-5 teams you played all year round. Thats after you invest $500-$800\team\tournament and probably have the same results each time.

          So now a team\coach cant partake in a specific tournament because there club directors have there own personal\financial mishaps with a local club. At the end of the day its not about our children's interest or love for the game. is not about there development first. its about how our directors can fill there pockets on our kids expense. It about there big egos.
          Thank God! now you know it! the kids?? you mean the customers

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            #20
            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            Academy's
            Red Bulls, Chicago Fire, LA Galaxy, Philadelphia Union, etc, etc etc
            Registration Fee $000.00 Zero
            Tournaments Fee $000.00
            Uniform $000.00 (2 Uniforms, 4 practice Jersey, 1 uniform for traveling 1 Jacket, 1 back pack
            Fly, Hotel, Coach Exp $000.00
            Coach Christmas, Birthday $000.00
            Camps $000.00
            Total Cost $000.00

            South Florida Academy's
            Registration Fee – Single payment: $2,050.00
            Uniform $160.00 (2 uniforms, 2 practice Jersey )
            1 Back pack $50 mandatory
            1 Jacket $40 mandatory
            3 Tournaments for year (Showcase) $2.000
            League $2.000
            Coach birthday? ???
            Camps $250 mandatory
            Total costs $6.550
            I assume your point is that even DA players will need to pay-to-play until there are a sufficient number of money making MLS teams located in the right geographical areas to fully fund the USSF DA program throughout this country.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
              This must be a club director. "non for profit" THEIR way out. Really. 100% of the money goes to the club. YEAH, OK. No one goes thru all the hassle and work to fight for positions or hold positions on the board because it was all for free. We all under stand how non for profit works. Only the ones on top get there hands in the cookie jar, while everyone else is sold a story about the importance of volunteer work. Tell me Mr Director that you don't make a cent on the tournaments. Maybe not directly, but you take as much as you can from the back door. Im sure you work hard and countless hours to raise all the money you can. Thats because you will be waiting in the back with a wheel barrel. Then you try to tell people its just for the club.
              Where did you come up with the term, "non for profit"? It's non-profit ace! And all of the proceeds go back into the club for various things such as operational expenses, logistical expenses for the top competitive teams, or many other things such as this. If they are caught giving money to DOC's coaches, administrators, and the like it would be a crime and would be called embezzlement. I think most of you watch far too much TV! Did you know that you can ask for an account statement from the club?

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                #22
                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Where did you come up with the term, "non for profit"? It's non-profit ace! And all of the proceeds go back into the club for various things such as operational expenses, logistical expenses for the top competitive teams, or many other things such as this. If they are caught giving money to DOC's coaches, administrators, and the like it would be a crime and would be called embezzlement. I think most of you watch far too much TV! Did you know that you can ask for an account statement from the club?
                Do not be confused by the name of an organization. Even if it is a non profit organization, the can pay salaries (charitable organizations use volunteers). A non profit organization is just another name for a business entity except that it does not make profits. If there is a surplus, such companies set it aside for salaries or other expenses. The only point to note is that a non profit company does not have owners or report profits, or in other words, it is not there to make money so it spends everything.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  Where did you come up with the term, "non for profit"? It's non-profit ace! And all of the proceeds go back into the club for various things such as operational expenses, logistical expenses for the top competitive teams, or many other things such as this. If they are caught giving money to DOC's coaches, administrators, and the like it would be a crime and would be called embezzlement. I think most of you watch far too much TV! Did you know that you can ask for an account statement from the club?
                  It is a Not for profit entity.You don't believe they use these entities for their own? I see plenty of board members profiting from these clubs.Sometimes indirectly by using certain vendors for instance. As for watching too much TV, perhaps you need to watch more...say the News for instance. Plenty of malfeasance shown daily, by so called proper people!!!

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    This must be a club director. "non for profit" THEIR way out. Really. 100% of the money goes to the club. YEAH, OK. No one goes thru all the hassle and work to fight for positions or hold positions on the board because it was all for free. We all under stand how non for profit works. Only the ones on top get there hands in the cookie jar, while everyone else is sold a story about the importance of volunteer work. Tell me Mr Director that you don't make a cent on the tournaments. Maybe not directly, but you take as much as you can from the back door. Im sure you work hard and countless hours to raise all the money you can. Thats because you will be waiting in the back with a wheel barrel. Then you try to tell people its just for the club.
                    As a former board member and President of a Florida non-profit youth soccer club, with a full-time paid DOC and paid coaches, I can assure you that all board members were true volunteers who worked harder than any other club volunteer and no board member received even a penny for those efforts. While I am sorry to burst your bubble, there are actually many of us who are more than willing to go through what you call the "hassle and work" of volunteer board membership "for free" as nothing more than a way to give back to the community.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                      I assume your point is that even DA players will need to pay-to-play until there are a sufficient number of money making MLS teams located in the right geographical areas to fully fund the USSF DA program throughout this country.

                      IF the rumors coming out about DA are true, the non-MLS DA clubs won't have to worry about it much longer as they will all be losing their DA spots and the only DA teams will be the MLS Clubs.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                        As a former board member and President of a Florida non-profit youth soccer club, with a full-time paid DOC and paid coaches, I can assure you that all board members were true volunteers who worked harder than any other club volunteer and no board member received even a penny for those efforts. While I am sorry to burst your bubble, there are actually many of us who are more than willing to go through what you call the "hassle and work" of volunteer board membership "for free" as nothing more than a way to give back to the community.
                        What area in the state? Because if you are in Miami, you are lying.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          IF the rumors coming out about DA are true, the non-MLS DA clubs won't have to worry about it much longer as they will all be losing their DA spots and the only DA teams will be the MLS Clubs.
                          While that may be true some day, there aren't yet MLS teams in all of the geographical areas needed by the DA program.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            While that may be true some day, there aren't yet MLS teams in all of the geographical areas needed by the DA program.
                            Agree, but the push is strong to get DA away from the non-MLS clubs. If Beckham gets his group up and running and OCYS has a DA team, those will be the only two in Florida. They will turn into residency situations so where you live won't matter as the kids will live there.

                            Time table is probably 2 or 3 years out.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              As a former board member and President of a Florida non-profit youth soccer club, with a full-time paid DOC and paid coaches, I can assure you that all board members were true volunteers who worked harder than any other club volunteer and no board member received even a penny for those efforts. While I am sorry to burst your bubble, there are actually many of us who are more than willing to go through what you call the "hassle and work" of volunteer board membership "for free" as nothing more than a way to give back to the community.
                              I don't think people are questioning whether or not people volunteer. There are many people that help out in these organizations.

                              They are pointing out that "non profits" can be just as money hungry as "for profits". "Charitable non-profits" follow a much stricter tax code and I don't think many of these (if any) travel soccer clubs have the charity designation.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                                As a former board member and President of a Florida non-profit youth soccer club, with a full-time paid DOC and paid coaches, I can assure you that all board members were true volunteers who worked harder than any other club volunteer and no board member received even a penny for those efforts. While I am sorry to burst your bubble, there are actually many of us who are more than willing to go through what you call the "hassle and work" of volunteer board membership "for free" as nothing more than a way to give back to the community.
                                I CONGRATULATE YoU. This is not what I have seen at the two clubs my kids have been in. At minimum I have seen the volunteers receiving coaching favors for their kids...that is acceptable to a point...however

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