OCYS Consolidated Thread

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Especially if you play for FC Florida!

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Colleges can not yet committ to any player with 2015 graduation.It is against NCAA rules.Colleges can show interest and that is about it at this stage.
Check the NCAA rules before you take any advice from a TS poster.Written committments which are the only committments set in stone do not get released until early February of the graduating year.

Just happened to find this idiotic post by random chance. Schools can verbally commit to a player at any time - even years before they graduate. However, as a verbal commitment, it is not legally binding. However most schools won't yank a verbal commitment, although a few unethical ones will. What often happens, however, is that the player who made the verbal commitment changes his/her mind and goes elsewhere.

But it is completely wrong to say that "Colleges can show interest and that is about it at this stage." As mentioned, the coach can verbally commit to giving a player a scholarship at any time they choose.

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Just happened to find this idiotic post by random chance. Schools can verbally commit to a player at any time - even years before they graduate. However, as a verbal commitment, it is not legally binding. However most schools won't yank a verbal commitment, although a few unethical ones will. What often happens, however, is that the player who made the verbal commitment changes his/her mind and goes elsewhere.

But it is completely wrong to say that "Colleges can show interest and that is about it at this stage." As mentioned, the coach can verbally commit to giving a player a scholarship at any time they choose.

I don't disagree with you having been through the process, but it happens so much more than you think. I can't believe our kid was an isolated case - and yes, we do believe the coach and school (the school's own eligibility compliance center) were completely unethical when they tried to force a new contract on our kid during preseason, just before classes started. the NCAA legal dept was not much help either. nearly every school can have issues and then there are issues you aren't even aware of when your kid signs, and then wham. the entire system is a house of cards and ncaa just hopes most problems are little and go unnoticed by the public at large. it is a much wider problem than most realize.

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Sure. My daughter is a 2014 D1 commit. She will sign her NLI in about a month.

The biggest piece of advice I can offer is to avoid the idea that getting committed is anyone else's responsibility. It's not the club, the coach or the league you play in (although each of those things plays an important role). It's up to the player- guided by her parents- to put in the hard work, the contacts, the follow up and the on-field performance to get noticed and establish the relationship with the coaches at the schools she's interested in.

Nobody gets "discovered" at a tournament or showcase. Coaches have a specific agenda and list of athletes they want to see. That comes from communication. It takes diligent work.

Good luck!

Great points about the recruiting process. It is definitely a long process. Picking the right school for your daughter's education needs to be the first priority. I.E., Penn St has a great soccer program and educational institution, but it can be very cold in November and a long way from home! Visit the schools she wants to attend. Get to know the coaches for the team. Some can be a nightmare to play under. Meet the players and get the "scoop" on the coaches. Visits can easily be arranged by the coach(s) as it happens all the time.

But there is no way your kid is a "2014 D-I commit and signing her NLI "in about a month". The 2014's signed in February of this year, and signing day is in February which is more like 3 months away. The 2014 college soccer season is over other than playoffs. Your player would still be a 2015 commit even if she goes to college right after the holidays during the spring semester of 2015. One more math course may not hurt! LOL

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Good teams do not have slow players at any position. The consequences of doing so are obvious.

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Great points about the recruiting process. It is definitely a long process. Picking the right school for your daughter's education needs to be the first priority. I.E., Penn St has a great soccer program and educational institution, but it can be very cold in November and a long way from home! Visit the schools she wants to attend. Get to know the coaches for the team. Some can be a nightmare to play under. Meet the players and get the "scoop" on the coaches. Visits can easily be arranged by the coach(s) as it happens all the time.

But there is no way your kid is a "2014 D-I commit and signing her NLI "in about a month". The 2014's signed in February of this year, and signing day is in February which is more like 3 months away. The 2014 college soccer season is over other than playoffs. Your player would still be a 2015 commit even if she goes to college right after the holidays during the spring semester of 2015. One more math course may not hurt! LOL

Good points except for using Penn State as an example. I know of two players whose parents couldn't transfer their daughters out of that program fast enough. While I'm sure others had great experiences, I heard enough to check that one off the list. Academics aren't any better than the average state flagship university.

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SL has passion, lots of passion. Zig has passion too!!!

Yeah SL has the Passion for the young boys, that creep. Twinkle Twinkle

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Great points about the recruiting process. It is definitely a long process. Picking the right school for your daughter's education needs to be the first priority. I.E., Penn St has a great soccer program and educational institution, but it can be very cold in November and a long way from home! Visit the schools she wants to attend. Get to know the coaches for the team. Some can be a nightmare to play under. Meet the players and get the "scoop" on the coaches. Visits can easily be arranged by the coach(s) as it happens all the time.

But there is no way your kid is a "2014 D-I commit and signing her NLI "in about a month". The 2014's signed in February of this year, and signing day is in February which is more like 3 months away. The 2014 college soccer season is over other than playoffs. Your player would still be a 2015 commit even if she goes to college right after the holidays during the spring semester of 2015. One more math course may not hurt! LOL

You're responding to a post from last January. Really, you need to get that first cup of coffee down before criticizing someone else's math skills.

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Yeah SL has the Passion for the young boys, that creep. Twinkle Twinkle

i shink you have passion too!!!!

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Soccer clubs come in many sizes and have varied structures.

There is surely more than one club where the DOC also serves as the General Manager, Administrator, Registrar, Trainer, Tournament Director and chief bottle washer.

While there is nothing inherently sinister about the DOC being in charge of the club's money, a qualified board treasurer, with oversight responsibility, will help the parents feel more comfortable and help avoid the appearance of any impropriaty.

does the club do an annual audit of the books, if so this will help to negate any funny business. although the books can still be cooked it helps.

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Is DCO director of coaching or director of club ? The board members are picked by the DOC. What are the beginning steps for changing the club's operation . I DO NOT THINK IT SHOULD BE A ONE MAN SHOW. I THINK THE BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD BE VOTED ON BY CLUB MEMBERS . PLEASE GIVE US SOME IDEAS

We have a DOC who handles all soccer related issues, coaching, curriculum, etc. We also have an elected BOD who hires DOC and confirms coaches hired by DOC. We went to this format by changing the bylaws at our regular AGM. BOD handles the $$.

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i shink you have passion too!!!!

yes for unsatisfied by their husband soccer moms, if you need a reference later tonight before you close your eyes, look to the side and ask your wife

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Should the soccer club's DOC also be incharge of club's money ? Is my sons soccer club
the only one like this ?

Show me a DOC who handles finances, and I'll show you someone who is totally clueless about handling finances. The moment that the DOC gets his hands on the money, they start thinking of ways of milking the parents out of more. I've seen really bad examples from one club in our area that the money is getting out of control. One time, our own DOC saw that we set aside money at the end of the year for future capital expenditures, he was saying that the coaches and him needed bonuses. We set aside performance bonuses already. This was just an extra request for the hell of it.

These guys live paycheck to paycheck, and can't control themselves. I had to explain to him what a capital expenditure was and the purpose behind it. There's is no way, I'm letting someone near the Club's money that doesn't have the rudimentary understanding of finances. This guy thought he saw extra money, and his first thought was spending it. He's smart when it comes to soccer, an idiot when it comes to finances. He needs to stay on the soccer side of the fence.

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Must be HB at SS?

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Show me a DOC who handles finances, and I'll show you someone who is totally clueless about handling finances. The moment that the DOC gets his hands on the money, they start thinking of ways of milking the parents out of more. I've seen really bad examples from one club in our area that the money is getting out of control. One time, our own DOC saw that we set aside money at the end of the year for future capital expenditures, he was saying that the coaches and him needed bonuses. We set aside performance bonuses already. This was just an extra request for the hell of it.

These guys live paycheck to paycheck, and can't control themselves. I had to explain to him what a capital expenditure was and the purpose behind it. There's is no way, I'm letting someone near the Club's money that doesn't have the rudimentary understanding of finances. This guy thought he saw extra money, and his first thought was spending it. He's smart when it comes to soccer, an idiot when it comes to finances. He needs to stay on the soccer side of the fence.

This does not have to be the case as some DOC or DOC candidate have proper education and experience.

Myself is an example. I am a former DOC who left the job when I moved states. One reason I was hired in the previous position was my business background and education.

I possessed a MBA in Management and 5-years financial experience at a wholesale bank. In addition to my coaching qualifications. While I had a treasurer and bod the structure and budget was a mess when I started, however due to my education and back ground it was not too big of an issue to sort out and maintain financial viability.

Personally, I don't think that I am special rather more of a dime a dozen. but for some reason people without proper business qualifications are asked to run businesses that happen to be soccer clubs.