OCYS Consolidated Thread

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Just because the money is collected from tourists, which are the economic engine of the area, that means we should not be fiscally responsible with it? We should just spend it because it was collected off the actions of tourists?

The Ocity stadium deal is wasteful. Plain and simple and it is becoming obvious that Ocity does not have the attendance to justify MLS or a stadium plan. Too much purple and red spin for me. There is a big difference between public relations and real business dealings.

You should stop debating this. When you're up against face-painting and smoke bombs, there's no way you'll win with facts and logic

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Most clubs require their teams to attend their own clubs tournaments. Just the way it is. Live with it.

Of course. If it weren't for OC's own, there would only be 50 teams attending this one.

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Apparently you can't-

Seattle's attendance figures are just as inflated as Orlando's.

Between 400+ premiere players escaping the Lyin' and rec players opting for other clubs, it might be MORE than 750.

The reporting in The Sentinel makes it crystal clear that parts of the intitial deal and future costs for the stadium will rquire tax dollars.

I was told they have about 1300 kids registered now. What did they have last year?

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ECNL Results

U17
The U17s responded well to a tough opening day loss to GSA, scoring three goals against a tough Atlanta Fire side. The Lions created an abundance of chances in the first half to put the game out of sight, but allowed the Fire back into the match by not capitalizing on those opportunities. Orlando played great soccer but came up short 4-3, after missing several clear-cut chances. Maddie Sketteberg notched her first brace for the Lions

FUNNY HOW THE SPIN MACHINE DONT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT HOW EMBARRASSING THEIR 12-0 LOST, JUST THEY RESPONDED WELL.....OUCHHH.

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Of course. If it weren't for OC's own, there would only be 50 teams attending this one.

Many teams are also registered to other tournaments and will most likely not go even if it takes place.

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In what age groups are these teams registering at different tournaments? Please specify...

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Seattle averaged less than 2300 in attendance as a USL franchise and now over 18k every game.

750 kids never left OCYS youth.

The Tax dollars are NOT from anyone's paycheck! It is already in the account from tourist resort tax dollars from Hotel stays. Its from the percentage of the resort fees that hotel rooms charge. The money is already in escrow and will NOT coast any locals money or income tax dollars.

Cant anyone keep this website post to factual information????

You aren't keeping to facts. The number might not be 750, but it is going to be close to that. Those players didn't just leave to go to one club, there are more spread out over other clubs in the area, and already others that I have talked to that wish they had left.

The tax dollars that you are talking about are only a small portion of the overall building of the stadium. TDT dollars only would account for $20 million of an overall $115 million stadium. The team is willing to put in $30 million, where do you think the rest is coming from. Lets see $20 million that the city of Orlando tax payers have already put into it in land purchases, $35 million that the team is going back to the state next year to try to get that they weren't able to get this year. The rest is going to come from naming rights to the stadium which the tax payers should own, and revenues from a tax on ticket purchases to the games, also money that should be going to tax payers since we are footing the majority of the stadium. The money in the TDT fund may not be out of my pocket our your pocket, but it is still public funds that should not be used for private interest.

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I was told they have about 1300 kids registered now. What did they have last year?

We can't really be sure, because they count "youth club members" the same way they count attendance at pro games.

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Dear Moron,

Didn't pick the Whitecaps to make a point - it was a direct quote from the Sentinel article.

But the point was the increase in attendance, not the funding.

Duh.

I don't care if it was in the article, you used them to try to make a point. I actually did some research on the team that you picked, and found out some good facts. They are using a stadium that was already built and now that they want a new stadium built the people are saying no to them. This is no different than here in Orlando except that they are already in the MLS with a good number of fans attending games, and yet they still can't get a new stadium approved.

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U17
The U17s responded well to a tough opening day loss to GSA, scoring three goals against a tough Atlanta Fire side. The Lions created an abundance of chances in the first half to put the game out of sight, but allowed the Fire back into the match by not capitalizing on those opportunities. Orlando played great soccer but came up short 4-3, after missing several clear-cut chances. Maddie Sketteberg notched her first brace for the Lions

FUNNY HOW THE SPIN MACHINE DONT MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT HOW EMBARRASSING THEIR 12-0 LOST, JUST THEY RESPONDED WELL.....OUCHHH.

"We played great. it was fantastic soccer. we created chances!"

(umm, but we couldn't finish and lost)

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Bingo! Ding! Ding! Ding!

As you stated, "very many people supporting this". Not nearly enough people in opposition.

This stadium WILL be approved by local governments (sorry fkk whiners).

Actually going by the numbers that are really going to the game there is only what about 5,000 in support. I will even give you another 100,000 that don't go to the games but actually like soccer and support it. That leaves 1.2 million in Orange county, 75% of those are over the age of 18. So just in Orange County you have about 900,000 that could care less about OC and their stadium. do you really think that the majority of people in the Orlando area think that this is the best use of public funds.

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I don't care if it was in the article, you used them to try to make a point. I actually did some research on the team that you picked, and found out some good facts. They are using a stadium that was already built and now that they want a new stadium built the people are saying no to them. This is no different than here in Orlando except that they are already in the MLS with a good number of fans attending games, and yet they still can't get a new stadium approved.

You do know that MLS mandates a soccer specific stadium with strict criteria don't you? No franchises will be awarded to those that do not meet the entry criteria.

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You do know that MLS mandates a soccer specific stadium with strict criteria don't you? No franchises will be awarded to those that do not meet the entry criteria.

Not true. Garber just makes up the rules as he goes along. Seattle nor Vancouver have soccer specific stadiums and they were recently awarded franchises. Miami is looking like a strong candidate for a franchise with Beckham and as of right now there has been no request from Garber to Miami/Beckham that they will need to build a soccer specific stadium. It is being discussed they will play at either FIU or Sun Life Stadium.

New York City FC was just awarded a team with no deals on a soccer specific stadium. It was talked about that they would build one, but they were awarded a team without even having a piece of land bought or a location yet for the stadium. The league announced that the club would "continue to review other potential sites"

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I'm all for MLS in Orlando, but I certainly don't think money needs to be spent on building a soccer specific stadium. Funding has already been approved to renovate the Citrus Bowl. Just put some more money into that project. In fact it was discussed at one time that was what they were going to do and they were just going to modify the Citrus Bowl to make is more "soccer" friendly and a better atmosphere for TV and TV viewing friendly, etc.

What a waste of money to build another big piece of concrete in Orlando, when one already exists.

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You do know that MLS mandates a soccer specific stadium with strict criteria don't you? No franchises will be awarded to those that do not meet the entry criteria.

There's nothing stopping Phil and Brazil from getting a soccer stadium. The debate will be over if they just man-up and pay for it. They can get their franchise awarded tomorrow.