OCYS Consolidated Thread

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That is sensible. Please explain then why DA U-14, 16 and 18 practice more????!!!! and for free??????
My tax dollars, my fees, my community is used to feed whom....?????

"In conjunction with Orlando City Soccer Club’s (OCSC) move to Major League Soccer (MLS) beginning in 2015, Orlando City Youth Soccer (OCYS) today announced that their U.S. Soccer Development Academy program will transition into a model that is mandated by MLS. Moving forward, OCSC will align themselves with other MLS clubs by providing Development Academy (DA) players with funding for registration, travel and uniform costs.

“Having a fully funded program for the kids is really exciting,” said OCYS Executive Director Steve Rammel. “This is a great step forward for the development of youth soccer in Florida and throughout MLS. Having a fully funded program presents a great opportunity for young children who aspire to play soccer at the highest level, especially now that they do not have to worry about the costs associated with playing and traveling.”

This announcement is the first of its kind in Florida. The DA funding will come directly from the professional club and is not correlated with any of the other programs within the youth club or its operating budget. Alleviating such mounting costs will not only help align the DA program with the MLS professional youth model, but will also allow the club to continue to focus on supporting the development of young players."

Does this answer your question?

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Don't kid yourself, this is the same at every club. The top teams get the most attention, best coaching, and best exposure. No different anywhere else.

There is a difference - at OC if your kid works and improves they have a chance to move up to the DA or ECNL, at other clubs they don't.

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We played purple last year and one year was enough. Here is the bottom line; Unless you are a DA or ECNL you are nothing. I still have friends and coaches at the OC and off the record, they will tell you the same thing. Of course they will create a purple 1, purple 2, white, red, ect because the more players, the more money. Do not expect anything unless you are DA or ECNL.

Agree. Had the same concerns. So why don't they just have DA and ENCL then?

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There is a difference - at OC if your kid works and improves they have a chance to move up to the DA or ECNL, at other clubs they don't.

All evidence to the contrary.

I bet there are more girls on ECNL teams this year that were poached from other clubs than girls that were on sub-ECNL OCYS teams last year.

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There is a difference - at OC if your kid works and improves they have a chance to move up to the DA or ECNL, at other clubs they don't.

I agree only if you support this statement with the opportunity YOU provide to your club members who are currently in lower teams to practice and work hard. Please support with evidence how you do that? On the contrary, you reduce their practice time because you cannot manage finances well to pay for the higher overheads you require to support DA/ECNL.

We know MLS may boast to pay for DA. But remember, MLS is also generates revenue from our own pockets and it is a FOR PROFIT group. Without local community support there is no way MLS pays for anything. We need to optimise the benefit of that association but with current policy management practices, you are on the way to become another FCA story, writing is on the wall. You have a chance to correct this and re-align right now, failure to do so is ........well, I do not need to predict anything...... all future becomes history for another day. Problem is, most of you guys will set up shop somewhere else depriving the local kids.

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All evidence to the contrary.

I bet there are more girls on ECNL teams this year that were poached from other clubs than girls that were on sub-ECNL OCYS teams last year.

Well said and so so true

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There is a difference - at OC if your kid works and improves they have a chance to move up to the DA or ECNL, at other clubs they don't.

Thanks Greg for the sales pitch. Still working it after three years. Nobody moves up ever.

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There is a difference - at OC if your kid works and improves they have a chance to move up to the DA or ECNL, at other clubs they don't.

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There is a difference - at OC if your kid works and improves they have a chance to move up to the DA or ECNL, at other clubs they don't.

You would need to have good coaches for the Purple teams for kids to develope. Lets see how many boys from Purple teams that were old enough to play DA last year moved up to DA......How many girls from Purple teams old enough to play ECNL last year got moved up to ECNL. That would be ZERO. Now how many Purple team boys left this year and went to other clubs.....mmmmm

After U14 if you are not on DA or ECNL you are there to pay the bills.

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My jaw just dropped. I have never questioned FYSA before but this is a slap in the face to all of the coaches out there. Most definitely something political on this one. Ridiculous.

FYSA is clueless. Sad that in a state of potential year round soccer development that Florida is so far behind.

Does FYSA have a coaching director for the state? If so who is he or she. I've never seen the coaching director… FYSA is a clown car of elected wanna bees. Can anyone at FYSA even kicks a soccer ball. How do you have an organization with such unqualified hacks.

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FYSA is clueless. Sad that in a state of potential year round soccer development that Florida is so far behind.

Does FYSA have a coaching director for the state? If so who is he or she. I've never seen the coaching director… FYSA is a clown car of elected wanna bees. Can anyone at FYSA even kicks a soccer ball. How do you have an organization with such unqualified hacks.

The future of soccer is US Club and US soccer. Those two organizations go hand in hand. State Organizations throughout the country have been weeded out. US Club has soccer people running the Organization not political clowns. FYSA needs to be phased out over the next 24 months or sooner.

Think about how bad the only two things they run are handed

1- Region Cup
2- State Cup

Both these events are an absolute joke in the way teams are ranked and the events are managed. Think about it as you leave the event this coming year.

If our coach said NO State Cup I would be happy……

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I agree only if you support this statement with the opportunity YOU provide to your club members who are currently in lower teams to practice and work hard. Please support with evidence how you do that? On the contrary, you reduce their practice time because you cannot manage finances well to pay for the higher overheads you require to support DA/ECNL.

We know MLS may boast to pay for DA. But remember, MLS is also generates revenue from our own pockets and it is a FOR PROFIT group. Without local community support there is no way MLS pays for anything. We need to optimise the benefit of that association but with current policy management practices, you are on the way to become another FCA story, writing is on the wall. You have a chance to correct this and re-align right now, failure to do so is ........well, I do not need to predict anything...... all future becomes history for another day. Problem is, most of you guys will set up shop somewhere else depriving the local kids.

My contacts with MLS tell me they are trying to seperate from USSDA and set up their own MLS academy in th enear future. Example is Toronto FC, who just cut their ties with USSDA. Reason is: When they say free DA, that gives them player rights and very large future revenue stream. If USSDA is involved, then they get their cut and MLS is not very happy about it. Typical American way, sell FREE, FREE and FREE but what is the catch????

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Thanks Greg for the sales pitch. Still working it after three years. Nobody moves up ever.

The DA and ECNL teams need to have the best players in order to compete at the highest level in the country. If those players are "trained" at OCYS that's great. If not and they are recruited from somewhere else that shouldn't matter anymore. These teams are for the best players to compete at the highest levels. We need to get away from the idea that if a player is developed in another club that it is a travesty for them to move to OC. In fact, the club that they are coming from should be proud of the fact that THEY developed a player that is now playing at the highest level and become a partner or "feeder" club moving forward. This is how it is done (successfully mind you) over seas and this is the model we need to use. DA and ECNL are at OC and that is not going to change. The other clubs should use this to their advantage and become allies in developing the sport in central Florida instead of becoming enemies. They should advertise the fact that they trained 3 current members of the u14 DA squad (example) which in turn can drive membership based on the "relationship" with an MLS team.

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My contacts with MLS tell me they are trying to seperate from USSDA and set up their own MLS academy in th enear future. Example is Toronto FC, who just cut their ties with USSDA. Reason is: When they say free DA, that gives them player rights and very large future revenue stream. If USSDA is involved, then they get their cut and MLS is not very happy about it. Typical American way, sell FREE, FREE and FREE but what is the catch????

I have heard the same thing. In the near future it will be the MLS DA teams that are the top tier for youth soccer and everything else is below them.

USSDA would lose most of its power and elite level status as the REAL players would all be at MLS clubs DA teams.

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The DA and ECNL teams need to have the best players in order to compete at the highest level in the country. If those players are "trained" at OCYS that's great. If not and they are recruited from somewhere else that shouldn't matter anymore. These teams are for the best players to compete at the highest levels. We need to get away from the idea that if a player is developed in another club that it is a travesty for them to move to OC. In fact, the club that they are coming from should be proud of the fact that THEY developed a player that is now playing at the highest level and become a partner or "feeder" club moving forward. This is how it is done (successfully mind you) over seas and this is the model we need to use. DA and ECNL are at OC and that is not going to change. The other clubs should use this to their advantage and become allies in developing the sport in central Florida instead of becoming enemies. They should advertise the fact that they trained 3 current members of the u14 DA squad (example) which in turn can drive membership based on the "relationship" with an MLS team.

This is the most accurate statement I can live with. It confirms OCYS other than DA cannot invest in their non-DA teams, already given up by cutting their practice time. Player Development is outsourced to others, typical IT world management scenario! Thank you OCYS for confirming you are not interested to see your non-DA players developed and please also stop your competetive teams sending to participate agianst teams who practice far more than you. It just does not seem right.

OR: just open up your fields and talented coach resources, get their ***** to the field and set up additional practices just what you are expected to do, nothing less. Show your money power at home than going to take pictures with homeless kids to fool the city politicians!