OCYS Consolidated Thread

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Now you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Again please tell us the 3 to 5 coaches you had during your ECNL season THAT being the reason why the girls didn't perform well. You can't because the coaches you have now are the ones that took over the ECNL program - you had Steve Crane that you were able to get fired but the rest are your current coaches. So flying to games and having a new coach is what your record shows. Bussing to games not practice for a month due to high school agreement is what ours shows. Nothing will ever be perfect. Wait until your star goes to college. To say OC is not fairing well is asinine all you have to do is look at your last years records to now that.

Ignore the OC spinster.

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Its sad but true. You have to go outside of OCYS to get better individually. They simply do not care for the individual. However they love for individuals that come in already developed or that get better by paying for outside training. Only reason to be at OCYS is to make the DA team.

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Its sad but true. You have to go outside of OCYS to get better individually. They simply do not care for the individual. However they love for individuals that come in already developed or that get better by paying for outside training. Only reason to be at OCYS is to make the DA team.

In some aspects USSDA is doing good. But in many other aspects, specially because there are no qualified or reputable coaches, USSDA is a organised Soccer MAFIA destroying the growth potential for the majority of the US youth. This is not just at OCYS but true to majority of the USSDA clubs.

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If we look past the thinly-veiled smugness of your post, we find that your entire premise- that OCYS offers superior "opportunity" with it's allegedly euro-based system- is built on two false assumptions:

1- you didn't "build" a club. The English in effect tried to buy one, then ended up stealing it. Claims to the contrary won't wash with anyone who was there. You might be able take advantage of fading memories some day, but until then, spare us the revisionist history.

2. OCYS has not produced any results worth noting. Nothing about the club and all it's marketing driven hype stands up to the facts. The record is mediocre at best, and generally poor, considering the massive advantages it started with. Your DA is not really special at all, your ECNL is at the bottom of the table, your "system" can't even produce a handful of teams qualified for the Disney Showcase. Other clubs- not just FKK, run rings around your feeble college recruiting.

What you have is an MLS franchise. Congratulations. But explain to us what that means for youth soccer, other than a gauzy connection from the front office to a parent's wallet through a little boys' dream?

Those old rehashed deflections do not work. OCYS us a youth club and in two short years has become the best opportunity to develop your child in preparation for college and pro play. How they got to that place is if no consequence. Your red herring about building a club is puzzling. Look around the local clubs. Some like Rush were built through acquisition and some like FCA were built from scratch. Who cares? On that note, who cares where they learned the game? At some point a child must make a decision. Is soccer a healthy hobby that will never go beyond a recreational pursuit or is soccer a potential means to a college and career. Much different paths my friend. I talk to adults all the time that played their 10-15 years of youth soccer. They have great memories of teams and titles won. But it ended in high school for all of them. If that sounds like your child then playing GCF or FSPL is fine. But if your kid is in that top 1% and you are keeping them at some local club that offers no exposure and does not have a development pipeline to the pros, then you are taking a huge chance they will be noticed and recruited to the next level.

In regards to #2, you know time is on our side. It was a rough start thanks to the inept management of the first hires to direct ECNL. Thing have already improved over last year's efforts and we have proven leadership. Most importantly, the talent is coming to OCYS. As parents discover that all DA are on scholarship, more players will come and so will the wins. What you have done is focus on a setback and hope things do not improve. Really? You want the development program for the only pro franchise in tiwn to fail? Sounds like you have issues you just won't forget. Fine. I won't make excuses for 2012-13, but you need to let it go. Things change quickly in youth soccer. The landscape of teams, clubs and players is very dynamic. Look at what happened at FCA and SCU. Once proud clubs that dominated the region and state are now just shells of what they used to be. Look at what ACYS has been able to build in the same time. There is no point arguing what OC brings to youth soccer with you. Enjoy the MLS games, enjoy the D1 women's college cup, enjoy the friendliest with national, EP and La Liga teams in our new stadium. They are for all to enjoy.

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[QUOTE=Unregistered;1160538]I talk to adults all the time that played their 10-15 years of youth soccer. They have great memories of teams and titles won. But it ended in high school for all of them. If that sounds like your child then playing GCF or FSPL is fine. But if your kid is in that top 1% and you are keeping them at some local club that offers no exposure and does not have a development pipeline to the pros, then you are taking a huge chance they will be noticed and recruited to the next level.
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Not me. I played at the local soccer club in Orlando for 10-15 years and ended up playing in college and semi-professional. I got plenty of exposure, because I could play and I attended tournaments where scouts were at and I had some coaches that would assist. If your good enough it doesn't matter what club you play for or at.

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Those old rehashed deflections do not work. OCYS us a youth club and in two short years has become the best opportunity to develop your child in preparation for college and pro play. How they got to that place is if no consequence. Your red herring about building a club is puzzling. Look around the local clubs. Some like Rush were built through acquisition and some like FCA were built from scratch. Who cares? On that note, who cares where they learned the game? At some point a child must make a decision. Is soccer a healthy hobby that will never go beyond a recreational pursuit or is soccer a potential means to a college and career. Much different paths my friend. I talk to adults all the time that played their 10-15 years of youth soccer. They have great memories of teams and titles won. But it ended in high school for all of them. If that sounds like your child then playing GCF or FSPL is fine. But if your kid is in that top 1% and you are keeping them at some local club that offers no exposure and does not have a development pipeline to the pros, then you are taking a huge chance they will be noticed and recruited to the next level.

In regards to #2, you know time is on our side. It was a rough start thanks to the inept management of the first hires to direct ECNL. Thing have already improved over last year's efforts and we have proven leadership. Most importantly, the talent is coming to OCYS. As parents discover that all DA are on scholarship, more players will come and so will the wins. What you have done is focus on a setback and hope things do not improve. Really? You want the development program for the only pro franchise in tiwn to fail? Sounds like you have issues you just won't forget. Fine. I won't make excuses for 2012-13, but you need to let it go. Things change quickly in youth soccer. The landscape of teams, clubs and players is very dynamic. Look at what happened at FCA and SCU. Once proud clubs that dominated the region and state are now just shells of what they used to be. Look at what ACYS has been able to build in the same time. There is no point arguing what OC brings to youth soccer with you. Enjoy the MLS games, enjoy the D1 women's college cup, enjoy the friendliest with national, EP and La Liga teams in our new stadium. They are for all to enjoy.

Excellent post. One point is more clear than other is:
1. It is either OCYS currently does not have enough talent but will attract more talent through "FREE" advertisement and/or
2. OCYS depends on the same other local clubs/coaches to develop that talent and skills required for their DA/ECNL, that is because your current coaches do not know how to develop or used up the previously developed talent without adding any value to them. Sounds like many a players will be ditched next year?????

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ECNL - Fully sponsored by club next season

So it's been talked about that OCYS will possibly fully sponsor it's ECNL teams. If I'm not mistaken, OCYS currently covers some if not all of the travel expenses for the player. If so, how will this affect the players that WFF attracts or would attract for the 2014-2015 season? Will WFF take a similar approach?

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don't worry

We are already seeing the benefits of having RB part of OCYS!!

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So it's been talked about that OCYS will possibly fully sponsor it's ECNL teams. If I'm not mistaken, OCYS currently covers some if not all of the travel expenses for the player. If so, how will this affect the players that WFF attracts or would attract for the 2014-2015 season? Will WFF take a similar approach?

Not true

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So it's been talked about that OCYS will possibly fully sponsor it's ECNL teams. If I'm not mistaken, OCYS currently covers some if not all of the travel expenses for the player. If so, how will this affect the players that WFF attracts or would attract for the 2014-2015 season? Will WFF take a similar approach?

Not True and WFF will not subsidize unless significant sponsorships occur.

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So it's been talked about that OCYS will possibly fully sponsor it's ECNL teams. If I'm not mistaken, OCYS currently covers some if not all of the travel expenses for the player. If so, how will this affect the players that WFF attracts or would attract for the 2014-2015 season? Will WFF take a similar approach?

to fully sponsor its ECNL program OCYS would have to come up with:

Coaches Salaries: Ballpark 120,000
Travel Expenses: 20k per trip x 7 trips (4 away weekends, playoffs and 2 showcases) plus U14 showcase and 3 extra away trips. 170,000

20,000 ( 2 busses, hotel rooms for 5 teams and coaches + food)

Field maintenance, lights and ECNL fees, referee fees: 20,000

that is a grand total of 310,000. They can't sustain that! I can see them partially funding it for some of the expense but its hard to do at 300k per year

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We are already seeing the benefits of having RB part of OCYS!!

Can you explain please?

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So it's been talked about that OCYS will possibly fully sponsor it's ECNL teams. If I'm not mistaken, OCYS currently covers some if not all of the travel expenses for the player. If so, how will this affect the players that WFF attracts or would attract for the 2014-2015 season? Will WFF take a similar approach?

OC will continue with covering all the travel expenses for the players next season that is it. I hear the DA will be fully funded though.

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to fully sponsor its ECNL program OCYS would have to come up with:

Coaches Salaries: Ballpark 120,000
Travel Expenses: 20k per trip x 7 trips (4 away weekends, playoffs and 2 showcases) plus U14 showcase and 3 extra away trips. 170,000

20,000 ( 2 busses, hotel rooms for 5 teams and coaches + food)

Field maintenance, lights and ECNL fees, referee fees: 20,000

that is a grand total of 310,000. They can't sustain that! I can see them partially funding it for some of the expense but its hard to do at 300k per year

Will OC guarantee a soccer scholarship for my daughter? Any female player coached by OC should receive a full refund for the past two years. Can't comment on boys side but from what I'm hearing NOT much different.

OC can bring Professional women's soccer to Orlando but it won't change who they really are.

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Those old rehashed deflections do not work. OCYS us a youth club and in two short years has become the best opportunity to develop your child in preparation for college and pro play. How they got to that place is if no consequence. Your red herring about building a club is puzzling. Look around the local clubs. Some like Rush were built through acquisition and some like FCA were built from scratch. Who cares? On that note, who cares where they learned the game? At some point a child must make a decision. Is soccer a healthy hobby that will never go beyond a recreational pursuit or is soccer a potential means to a college and career. Much different paths my friend. I talk to adults all the time that played their 10-15 years of youth soccer. They have great memories of teams and titles won. But it ended in high school for all of them. If that sounds like your child then playing GCF or FSPL is fine. But if your kid is in that top 1% and you are keeping them at some local club that offers no exposure and does not have a development pipeline to the pros, then you are taking a huge chance they will be noticed and recruited to the next level.

In regards to #2, you know time is on our side. It was a rough start thanks to the inept management of the first hires to direct ECNL. Thing have already improved over last year's efforts and we have proven leadership. Most importantly, the talent is coming to OCYS. As parents discover that all DA are on scholarship, more players will come and so will the wins. What you have done is focus on a setback and hope things do not improve. Really? You want the development program for the only pro franchise in tiwn to fail? Sounds like you have issues you just won't forget. Fine. I won't make excuses for 2012-13, but you need to let it go. Things change quickly in youth soccer. The landscape of teams, clubs and players is very dynamic. Look at what happened at FCA and SCU. Once proud clubs that dominated the region and state are now just shells of what they used to be. Look at what ACYS has been able to build in the same time. There is no point arguing what OC brings to youth soccer with you. Enjoy the MLS games, enjoy the D1 women's college cup, enjoy the friendliest with national, EP and La Liga teams in our new stadium. They are for all to enjoy.

Zusi played for FC America and Lake Mary HS. This summer Zusi will represent the USA in the World Cup. Dax McCarty played for CFU and Winter Park HS. Dax played on the National team and plays for the RedBulls of MLS. If you can play you can play. It's that simple. Stop kidding yourself