Ocys = cfk 2.0

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Looks to me like this USCS "club based" league championed by Darth Jamaica turned out to be a pretty good idea after all. First ECNL, now this. I suppose the haters can still rag on his public speaking skills, though.

now you know the TS authorities that reside here are all knowing. Surely they are never wrong....

They said,

OCYS didn't CFK and the merger would never happen - WRONG
HM would not have a role in the OCYS - WRONG
OCYS/CFK was not getting ECNL - WRONG
OCYS/CFK was not getting DA - WRONG
FPL was folding because all the clubs were Fleeing - WRONG
FPL would only add 1 new club - WRONG

Might want to check the warranty on that crystal ball or perhaps read the instructions because your not reading it correctly

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now you know the TS authorities that reside here are all knowing. Surely they are never wrong....

They said,

OCYS didn't CFK and the merger would never happen - WRONG
HM would not have a role in the OCYS - WRONG
OCYS/CFK was not getting ECNL - WRONG
OCYS/CFK was not getting DA - WRONG
FPL was folding because all the clubs were Fleeing - WRONG
FPL would only add 1 new club - WRONG

Might want to check the warranty on that crystal ball or perhaps read the instructions because your not reading it correctly

Yup... there's a lot of those TS pundits with yolk on their faces- and it's a good thing, too because youth soccer in Florida has a brighter future for all those things you listed, plus othe clubs (Brandon/VSI for one) moving in the right direction.

I'd be thrilled if my kid was a u13 in this environment. what great opportunities for the younger ones.

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My daughter plays on one of the most successful state cup level team at FSA. She has been at this club for years and it has been her second home, until now. Its heartbreaking to see what CFK is doing as they have made zero concessions in order to merge the best of both organizations. Please, spare us all on your smart remarks on how FSA had nothing worth keeping. Really, you know better.

Our only option is to leave. Let us know where you are going Coach – we will be right behind you!

I'm with CFK. Why do you feel this way? Do you not feel your daughter will have a place in the new organization? Or do you just not want change? There are very good players and coaches at FSA. So why do you feel that no concessions have been made? Do you know something we don't about directors/coaches/players at FSA who are purposely not being included?

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I'm with CFK. Why do you feel this way? Do you not feel your daughter will have a place in the new organization? Or do you just not want change? There are very good players and coaches at FSA. So why do you feel that no concessions have been made? Do you know something we don't about directors/coaches/players at FSA who are purposely not being included?

I thinks this part answers that question:

"Our only option is to leave. Let us know where you are going Coach – we will be right behind you!"

Seems to me that the coach isn't happy. It's the typical coach trying to control "his player(s) and team" and leaving.

This plays out year after year with families idolizing coaches and putting them on a pedistal. As long as your kid is one of the good ones your happy but god for bid they stop playing the kid.

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I thinks this part answers that question:

"Our only option is to leave. Let us know where you are going Coach – we will be right behind you!"

Seems to me that the coach isn't happy. It's the typical coach trying to control "his player(s) and team" and leaving.

This plays out year after year with families idolizing coaches and putting them on a pedistal. As long as your kid is one of the good ones your happy but god for bid they stop playing the kid.

This will never end...Club Based/Team(Coach)Based. 2 battling philosophies. To each is their own. This whole thread is the two sides trying to sell their points of view. In the end people will make up their own minds regardless of what gets posted on here.

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I'm with CFK. Why do you feel this way? Do you not feel your daughter will have a place in the new organization? Or do you just not want change? There are very good players and coaches at FSA. So why do you feel that no concessions have been made? Do you know something we don't about directors/coaches/players at FSA who are purposely not being included?

No, not that you don't know. Just the same things that you know like no FSA leadership, directors or coaches of top teams. FSA coaches have no idea if they will even get a team next year while many CFK coaches can tell you who is going to be their core group on their team and even where they are practicing. If you ask nicely they willeven tell you who the new directors are. It's the same old stuff that always happens.

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This will never end...Club Based/Team(Coach)Based. 2 battling philosophies. To each is their own. This whole thread is the two sides trying to sell their points of view. In the end people will make up their own minds regardless of what gets posted on here.

Look at the evidence:

The clubs that joined FPL and embraced a "club based" model landed ECNL. The USCS started FPL last year with 5 and this year grows to 11 affiliates statewide- and it encourages all to use the club-based organizational style and training regimine.

Meanwhile, FYSA rolls out a half-hearted attempt at a seeding league. Individual coaches scramblwe around to shop "their" teams to the club next door year after year.

What looks more like a pro-active, successful approach?

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No, not that you don't know. Just the same things that you know like no FSA leadership, directors or coaches of top teams. FSA coaches have no idea if they will even get a team next year while many CFK coaches can tell you who is going to be their core group on their team and even where they are practicing. If you ask nicely they willeven tell you who the new directors are. It's the same old stuff that always happens.

Well then you do know something I don't know. Since no directors nor coaches have been named, you must have some inside information. I have asked both my kids' coaches if they know their coaching assignments or who will be coaching in my kids' age groups, and they have said they haven't been told anything yet. And guess what? I actually believe them!
So maybe things are different over there at FSA that you seem to know what's going on.
I say give it a chance. But it sounds like your whole team may be following your coach to another club. I was actually happy that in my daughter's age group there might be some new "talent" added to the mix, but if every FSA team takes the same approach you are taking, it truly will be the same old thing.

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Look at the evidence:

The clubs that joined FPL and embraced a "club based" model landed ECNL. The USCS started FPL last year with 5 and this year grows to 11 affiliates statewide- and it encourages all to use the club-based organizational style and training regimine.

Meanwhile, FYSA rolls out a half-hearted attempt at a seeding league. Individual coaches scramblwe around to shop "their" teams to the club next door year after year.

What looks more like a pro-active, successful approach?

You just listed 11 teams out of what, 70 clubs across Florida. You're basing a "successful" approach on a league that is in it's second year and almost caved last year? It's a preference. I prefer the small team based approach to the club based approach. Should I just change my mind because you think the club based approach is the right way? My investment money is in mutual funds not soccer clubs. Thank god my kid will be out of this youth soccer in 2 yrs so none of this crap will matter to me anymore.

Congratulations on your club being invited to play in the FPL.

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No, not that you don't know. Just the same things that you know like no FSA leadership, directors or coaches of top teams. FSA coaches have no idea if they will even get a team next year while many CFK coaches can tell you who is going to be their core group on their team and even where they are practicing. If you ask nicely they willeven tell you who the new directors are. It's the same old stuff that always happens.

i'm a different poster- but also from CFK. I'd like to encourage you to set aside what you may have heard or read about the club- and remember this is not a "takeover" of FSA by CFK. Yes, some CFK management has landed important roles- but that's not surprising, and it doesn't mean OCYS will be "run by " CFK. It's OCYS who are the exceutives. CFK has had significant success in the last 2 years, and that counts for something.

The truth is that most of us at CFK know most of the folks at FSA- our kids have played soccer together for years, and many of the coaches have been with both clubs. There is great talent in both clubs- and great opportunity for everyone at OCYS.

You shouldn't feel you have to abandon FSA just because OC has aquired CFK. you're not being pushed out- the players and families that have been at FSA are a valuable part of OCYS.

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You just listed 11 teams out of what, 70 clubs across Florida. You're basing a "successful" approach on a league that is in it's second year and almost caved last year? It's a preference. I prefer the small team based approach to the club based approach. Should I just change my mind because you think the club based approach is the right way? My investment money is in mutual funds not soccer clubs. Thank god my kid will be out of this youth soccer in 2 yrs so none of this crap will matter to me anymore.

Congratulations on your club being invited to play in the FPL.

Let's assume your figures are correct-

FPL goes from a 5% market share to a 16% share in one year. 2 of the inaugural members get ECNL for the FIRST TIME EVER in Florida. Of course, you're entitled to your preferences. But the facts are moving heavily in favor of the USCS and club-base approach.

My kid will be out sooner- but we love the sport and will continue to support it in Florida even after the kid is in college.

Good Luck to all.

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Well then you do know something I don't know. Since no directors nor coaches have been named, you must have some inside information. I have asked both my kids' coaches if they know their coaching assignments or who will be coaching in my kids' age groups, and they have said they haven't been told anything yet. And guess what? I actually believe them!
So maybe things are different over there at FSA that you seem to know what's going on.
I say give it a chance. But it sounds like your whole team may be following your coach to another club. I was actually happy that in my daughter's age group there might be some new "talent" added to the mix, but if every FSA team takes the same approach you are taking, it truly will be the same old thing.

Ask either one of the MMs, CM, JA, RC, TR, RH, EQ as well as several others as they know what they are doing. HM and GB keep them in the loop pretty well.

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But the facts are moving heavily in favor of the USCS and club-base approach.

FACT: 2011-12 FPL club Space Coast United did not renew its DOC's contract.

FACT: 2011-12 FPL club Jacksonville United FC forced into a "reunification" with First Coast Soccer Association. JUFC will cease to exist with the conclusion of the 2011-12 season.

FACT: New 2012-13 FPL member IMG currently lacks nearly all U13G-U18G teams and several U13B-U15B teams.

FACT: New 2012-13 FPL club Kendall currently lacks several U13G-U18G teams.

Kendall has suggested it will participate in 2012-13 FPL with boys teams only.

FACT: New 2012-13 Boca United currently lacks a U17G team.

Boca United has suggested it will fill all U13-U18 boys and girls FPL teams for 2012-13, not through a "club-based" model, rather via an "alliance" with other club(s).

FACT: USCS has recently posted on its website requirements and recommendations for its National Premier Leagues clubs.

FACT: several of the clubs added to FPL for 2012-13 currently are not in compliance with USCS' own recommendations and requirements.

In Florida, these FACTS don't support the comment of "moving heavily in favor of the USCS and club-base approach".

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I'm with CFK. Why do you feel this way? Do you not feel your daughter will have a place in the new organization? Or do you just not want change? There are very good players and coaches at FSA. So why do you feel that no concessions have been made? Do you know something we don't about directors/coaches/players at FSA who are purposely not being included?

YES! There will be unwarranted cuts made by CFK (OCYS doesn't have any input but their logo). And to the other comment stating that the coach must be unhappy if he's leaving... really? That is not the case at all. Far from it.

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YES! There will be unwarranted cuts made by CFK (OCYS doesn't have any input but their logo). And to the other comment stating that the coach must be unhappy if he's leaving... really? That is not the case at all. Far from it.

You people are paranoid trying to make other people who are paranoid more paranoid! I think everyone knows coaches will be announced next week.