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    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
    Sometimes this happens. Players fall behind or don't earn their minutes through hard work. That is what the B teams are supposed to be for. Problem is most parents program their kids to never take playing opportunities at the lower level as development.
    Not true. All teams, town, club, A or B know they are being disgusting going for the win benching kids under 14 on any team no matter how competitive. That’s NOT on the players or their parents. That is the coaches responsibility. If your players lose ground give them some coaching, ya know, do your job. If you need to move them to the B team next season AFTER tryouts not mid-season. If coaches do t realize building kids confidence and development comes from their support then they need to go work at McDonald’s.

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      Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
      Not true. All teams, town, club, A or B know they are being disgusting going for the win benching kids under 14 on any team no matter how competitive. That’s NOT on the players or their parents. That is the coaches responsibility. If your players lose ground give them some coaching, ya know, do your job. If you need to move them to the B team next season AFTER tryouts not mid-season. If coaches do t realize building kids confidence and development comes from their support then they need to go work at McDonald’s.

      BS. You don't leave a kid on a team if they are struggling, you move them down mid season for sure. What about all the other kids that are not struggling? Should they all have to carry the struggling kid for what could be another 4-6 months? It's not all about "your kid", it's a team. Just like you have co workers, but not all make the same $. You obviously did not make the cut, or were cut or left mid season. Either way, ALL parents pay a lot of $, so to have a kid stay on a team and not get moved down until next year, that's no good for the TEAM, or that kid !!!

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        Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
        BS. You don't leave a kid on a team if they are struggling, you move them down mid season for sure. What about all the other kids that are not struggling? Should they all have to carry the struggling kid for what could be another 4-6 months? It's not all about "your kid", it's a team. Just like you have co workers, but not all make the same $. You obviously did not make the cut, or were cut or left mid season. Either way, ALL parents pay a lot of $, so to have a kid stay on a team and not get moved down until next year, that's no good for the TEAM, or that kid !!!
        You are very very wrong.
        This isn’t pro, or even college.
        You do not develop players by moving them, cutting them, benching them mid season unless your a total self centered jerk. Kids are not pros. Kids are dealing with lots of things and they have struggles that can affect not only their performance mid season but also maybe getting a ride etc. You know nothing about player development. You want to work with youth take some classes. From what I hear those who left surf are wayyyyy better off.

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          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
          You are very very wrong.
          This isn’t pro, or even college.
          You do not develop players by moving them, cutting them, benching them mid season unless your a total self centered jerk. Kids are not pros. Kids are dealing with lots of things and they have struggles that can affect not only their performance mid season but also maybe getting a ride etc. You know nothing about player development. You want to work with youth take some classes. From what I hear those who left surf are wayyyyy better off.

          So if 90% of the team is not struggling, and are progressing, the 1-3 that are not should just weigh down the team? And if there are other kids that are progressing on the lower team that should be moved up, they should stay put on a lower team they are too good for until next year? Yeah, that sounds like competitive soccer, not club soccer. Sorry you are not progressing, but it is obviously not the coach's fault, if 90% on the team are progressing.

          And no, it isn't pro or college. But I guess I value the money I spend more than you do. All these "lots of things" you refer to, if it is not soccer related, then it don't matter, we are paying for soccer, not therapists for personal or family issues. If it is soccer related, then yes, they should be moved down. I do agree, never should a kid be CUT during a season, unless their actions or attitude on/towards the team affects the rest of the team. And sometimes, the parents are the reason for the cut or move down, which is also ok, unless that particular parent agrees to go nowhere near the team games or practices.

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            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
            You are very very wrong.
            This isn’t pro, or even college.
            You do not develop players by moving them, cutting them, benching them mid season unless your a total self centered jerk. Kids are not pros. Kids are dealing with lots of things and they have struggles that can affect not only their performance mid season but also maybe getting a ride etc. You know nothing about player development. You want to work with youth take some classes. From what I hear those who left surf are wayyyyy better off.

            Also, if the ride is the problem. Ask team parents for help. If that don't work, sorry, but you knew what you signed up for. That is not the coach or club's responsibility at all. That statement about rides is just ridiculous. You sound like club soccer is not for your player. And that is completely fine. I think you are the one having a hard time accepting that. There are different levels. Maybe this team you are referring to is at too high of a level for you to be able to commit to and progress with as well.

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              Weigh the team down? Oh nooo you are a real loser. Those surf teams are out to sandbag town teams and now cut the kids weighing the team down?! Listen if your coach offered a player on the team a spot and you think the player weighs the team down too bad. They made an offer. Your so damn entitled. If a player is not as strong of a player remember they too paid. Don’t be a jerk. The club made an offer to this kid so the club is responsible to move them along in the next season, but no not mid season. Coach made the mistake and coach lives with it. But you don’t crush the kids confidence mid season by cutting them moving them or benching them. You people are everything that is wrong with youth sports.

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                Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                Weigh the team down? Oh nooo you are a real loser. Those surf teams are out to sandbag town teams and now cut the kids weighing the team down?! Listen if your coach offered a player on the team a spot and you think the player weighs the team down too bad. They made an offer. Your so damn entitled. If a player is not as strong of a player remember they too paid. Don’t be a jerk. The club made an offer to this kid so the club is responsible to move them along in the next season, but no not mid season. Coach made the mistake and coach lives with it. But you don’t crush the kids confidence mid season by cutting them moving them or benching them. You people are everything that is wrong with youth sports.

                Sorry her feelings were hurt, MOM. But as was sated, this is the top level of youth soccer for the age you are referring to. So again, if you don't like the movements mid season, you do not belong at this level. READ YOUR CONTRACT. It's not about feelings at this level no matter the age, it's not about entitlement either. It's simply about who deserves to be there as a PLAYER. I get that it sucks, but it is a part of life including sports. 95% of the kids that are playing any sport at the highest level will go at younger ages will go thru the same thing your player has. Unfortunately for your player, it happened earlier in their soccer journey than you had hoped.

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                  Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                  You people are everything that is wrong with youth sports.

                  Yeah, BUT... You LOVED it when she was able to start with the team, but now that she has not progressed, "they are everything that is wrong with youth sports"? You were "they", until YOU were not good enough. Just accept it and move on.

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                    Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                    Yeah, BUT... You LOVED it when she was able to start with the team, but now that she has not progressed, "they are everything that is wrong with youth sports"? You were "they", until YOU were not good enough. Just accept it and move on.
                    The kid might be at the top of his or her game right now, but these things change for kids over months and even weeks. It might be another kid a third of the way through the same season. They won't get through it by sitting on the bench.

                    Most leagues and youth organizations I'm aware of have guidelines in place for at least 50% play time at these ages so it isn't some crazy made-up ask.

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                      No reputable club with you with surf is doing.

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                        No reputable club would do what surf is doing.

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                          Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                          The kid might be at the top of his or her game right now, but these things change for kids over months and even weeks. It might be another kid a third of the way through the same season. They won't get through it by sitting on the bench.

                          Most leagues and youth organizations I'm aware of have guidelines in place for at least 50% play time at these ages so it isn't some crazy made-up ask.

                          You are correct about the playing time, whatever the % is. However, where you are wrong is... The club reserves the right to move kids up and down at any point. If this is not in your contract, then you are at a town club, not a premier club. It's really that simple. End of story.

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                            Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                            The kid might be at the top of his or her game right now, but these things change for kids over months and even weeks. It might be another kid a third of the way through the same season. They won't get through it by sitting on the bench.

                            Most leagues and youth organizations I'm aware of have guidelines in place for at least 50% play time at these ages so it isn't some crazy made-up ask.

                            Also correct about kids changing rapidly. Which proves the point even more. You were asked to move down because your kid wasn't keeping up. That don't happen in games, that is seen by the coaches more in training sessions. Let it go Elsa

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                              Originally posted by Unregistered View Post
                              No reputable club would do what surf is doing.
                              referring to playing Superliga? definitely Bush league by Surf

                              Big time Bush League.
                              about as Bush league as you can possibly get in youth sports.

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                                Elsa? Frozen? So confused by this dope.

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