2017 Boys HS soccer

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Most schools with a bye have some sort of controlled scrimmage. They work on taking and defending set pieces, corner kicks, and PK shootouts. You pick a team from another division that has a bye and has a coach that work with that has a team that can understand the concept. Its better than having internal scrimmages against what is left of your JV. No ground breaking coaching going on here. Happens every year.

worked out real well coach

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What's wrong with soccer in the USA?

Ouch..setting up for SK LaSalle..maybe on the girls side as well..

Good example...The coach for SK is what's wrong with soccer in the USA. Teaches players to play an ice hockey style of soccer. Once they get to the international level players cannot play that style and get eliminated.

Referees are just as guilty. They let soooo much go. Terribly disheartening for the Beautiful
Game!

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Good example...The coach for SK is what's wrong with soccer in the USA. Teaches players to play an ice hockey style of soccer. Once they get to the international level players cannot play that style and get eliminated.

Referees are just as guilty. They let soooo much go. Terribly disheartening for the Beautiful
Game!

So I guess you don't watch much international soccer, and certainly not the Premiere League. And for that matter you probably don't watch much Ice hockey. It's a passing and movement (constant movement) game. The USA soccer team could learn some things from a good pro hockey team. Haven't seen SK but if they are playing too rough for you, it's on the referees to make those calls.

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Good example...The coach for SK is what's wrong with soccer in the USA. Teaches players to play an ice hockey style of soccer. Once they get to the international level players cannot play that style and get eliminated.

Referees are just as guilty. They let soooo much go. Terribly disheartening for the Beautiful
Game!

Hate to break this to you..but nobody in these games are going to play at the international level..so the pinnacle for most of them - including the coach - is to win a state title; the basic fact is no HS team in RI can consistently play the style you suggest (and as noted, it's not played consistently at the international level either!) so a smart coach plays the style that fits the talent and fitness of the players..beautiful or ugly - there are no style points that contribute the goals scored total..

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Good example...The coach for SK is what's wrong with soccer in the USA. Teaches players to play an ice hockey style of soccer. Once they get to the international level players cannot play that style and get eliminated.

Referees are just as guilty. They let soooo much go. Terribly disheartening for the Beautiful
Game!

No kidding, if you haven't woken up yet, 99% of winning at competitive soccer is establishing and discerning what the referee will let you get away with. It's certainly not a gentlemen's sport, never has, never will be. You are obviously a Superliga parent. SK doesn't strike me as the biggest offender in this respect. LaSalle dominates this category, which is why they have 75% of the recent State Championships.

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No kidding, if you haven't woken up yet, 99% of winning at competitive soccer is establishing and discerning what the referee will let you get away with. It's certainly not a gentlemen's sport, never has, never will be. You are obviously a Superliga parent. SK doesn't strike me as the biggest offender in this respect. LaSalle dominates this category, which is why they have 75% of the recent State Championships.

Refereeing is quite variable; I think the games I have seen have been better than in prior years, but some issues with the NFHS two-man system is consistency between the two refs.

I also think there is some confusion on the charging fouls. I have heard "but our player got the ball" (doesn't mean there still wasn't a foul) or "our player got knocked down" (doesn't mean there was a foul).

Charging has a bit of subjectivity (especially the reckless/excessive aspects), but if refs were more consistent in early enforcement of charging, especially the use of hands and arms on goal kicks/balls in the air, it might result in better play.

But as mentioned, if refs don't call it, you see a lot of jersey grabbing or holding/undercutting on air balls.

"Charging is essentially rushing at another player, resulting in body contact. Without the essential contact, the foul may be jumping at the opponent, but it cannot be charging. The difficulty for the referee is that there are "fair" charges and fouls. A fair charge is a shoulder-to-shoulder attempt to knock an opponent off the ball which is performed with at least one foot on the ground, with the arms in close to the body, and with the ball close enough to both that it can be played by either...what we call "playing distance". Clearly, a fair charge meeting these criteria can result in one of the players falling down--the "big kid, little kid"problem--but if the charge is truly fair, this doesn't matter and no foul should be called. Players with the ball can also be charged from behind so long as the charge is not reckless or involve excessive force...the player with the ball is permitted to "shield"so the player trying to win the ball is permitted a certain amount of physical contact in an effort to get possession away from the attacker. When young players are involved, a challenge from behind is more likely to be deemed a foul by the referee; as players get older, play is more physical, and more bumping is usually permitted. Again, the use of hands and/or arms will change this action from a charge to what will probably be judged to be an illegal push."

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Refereeing is quite variable; I think the games I have seen have been better than in prior years, but some issues with the NFHS two-man system is consistency between the two refs.

I also think there is some confusion on the charging fouls. I have heard "but our player got the ball" (doesn't mean there still wasn't a foul) or "our player got knocked down" (doesn't mean there was a foul).

Charging has a bit of subjectivity (especially the reckless/excessive aspects), but if refs were more consistent in early enforcement of charging, especially the use of hands and arms on goal kicks/balls in the air, it might result in better play.

But as mentioned, if refs don't call it, you see a lot of jersey grabbing or holding/undercutting on air balls.

"Charging is essentially rushing at another player, resulting in body contact. Without the essential contact, the foul may be jumping at the opponent, but it cannot be charging. The difficulty for the referee is that there are "fair" charges and fouls. A fair charge is a shoulder-to-shoulder attempt to knock an opponent off the ball which is performed with at least one foot on the ground, with the arms in close to the body, and with the ball close enough to both that it can be played by either...what we call "playing distance". Clearly, a fair charge meeting these criteria can result in one of the players falling down--the "big kid, little kid"problem--but if the charge is truly fair, this doesn't matter and no foul should be called. Players with the ball can also be charged from behind so long as the charge is not reckless or involve excessive force...the player with the ball is permitted to "shield"so the player trying to win the ball is permitted a certain amount of physical contact in an effort to get possession away from the attacker. When young players are involved, a challenge from behind is more likely to be deemed a foul by the referee; as players get older, play is more physical, and more bumping is usually permitted. Again, the use of hands and/or arms will change this action from a charge to what will probably be judged to be an illegal push."

Which is the point, all skill being equal, the team that understand the limits of each referee will be the one with the advantage. Not always the first hit that gets caught, it's often the retaliation. Not always the first charge that get's the yellow card, but the one where the referee thinks he might be losing control. Players that know how to use this to their advantage can overcome deficiencies against better players. Those 50-50 calls can become lop-sided. If you want to play a gentlemen's game, consider golf.

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Should be a tight game tomorrow night between Hendricken and LaSalle. Tied during the regular season.

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Which is the point, all skill being equal, the team that understand the limits of each referee will be the one with the advantage. Not always the first hit that gets caught, it's often the retaliation. Not always the first charge that get's the yellow card, but the one where the referee thinks he might be losing control. Players that know how to use this to their advantage can overcome deficiencies against better players. Those 50-50 calls can become lop-sided. If you want to play a gentlemen's game, consider golf.

You are too much focus on the things you can’t control. Most referees that ref the playoff are experienced refugees. Players and sideline behaviors are factors in how games are ref.

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LaSalle wins it on a set play. SK wins in a blow-out.

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Hendricken is the better team.

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Hendricken is the better team.

LaSalle's whining, flopping and manipulation of the referees will keep them in the game

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What an exciting night for Div 1 Boys. Like the Division Championship weekend in the NFL when the top four teams in each conference play each other to determine who goes to the championship. Should be two good games, and really any two teams could come out on top. Congrats to all teams for getting this far! Huge step up for Classical coming from a #9 seed.

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Ouch..setting up for SK LaSalle..maybe on the girls side as well..

Good call

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Is it safe to say that the farce of MB competing in D2 will be over after this season? Clearly a very talented team, but it is disgraceful to be where they are.